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Evolution of Technology and Existence
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All of humanity's greatest achievements, our creations, our stem-cells, our cloning, bio-engineering, mechanical organs, electrical nerves, and computers will one day lead us to artificial intelligence. Our ability to create artificial life will help us understand our own existence; that we created ourselves, and that all of history's greatest achievements contributed to that ability/understanding. How did we do it?

We are always moving closer to understanding that question. We are learning through ourselves and slowly rediscovering how to 'create'.


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

Edited by mikebart101 (12/10/07 08:22 PM)

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: mikebart101]
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mikebart101 said:
We are learning through ourselves and slowly rediscovering how to 'create'.


Rediscovering....? Anything we do or don't do is creating in one form or another....
It is all a semantics game, either way....


>^;;^<


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I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."
>^;;^<

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: mikebart101]
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Expression > Creation
Being > Understanding

:japsmile:


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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: EternalCowabunga]
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How did we do it?


Time + scientific opposition to authoritative opinions dogmatically enforced by religious establishments.

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: vigilant_mind]
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vigilant_mind said:
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How did we do it?


Time + scientific opposition to authoritative opinions dogmatically enforced by religious establishments.


+ scientific opposition to scientific dogmas


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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: Silversoul]
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Check out Terence McKenna and Raymond Kurzweil for two different and rad points of view on this topic.

Edited by Karmatron (12/10/07 11:20 PM)

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: Karmatron]
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You're excited because you think that tapping the power of artificial intelligence will somehow give us the key to all knowledge or at least the key to all knowledge of the creative power. If the latter, big deal. We've been creating new life for thousands of years in our own species and others through sex and breeding. Creating AIs will not be a watershed moment in our understanding of godlike powers.

I think all of those great achievements you list (stem-cells, our cloning, bio-engineering, mechanical organs, electrical nerves, and computers), the greatest result will not be AI robots — the Japanese may have already cornered that market niche — but immortality for humans. It would be asinine to try to guess when immortality will become possible, but I think it's safe to say that the possibility is coming up on the horizon. The tragedy for you and me is that we probably number among the final generations who will miss the boat, cursed eternally because we were born a few tens or hundreds of years too soon to benefit from the permanent unlocking and reversal of the death genes.

Stick that in your pipe of depressing thoughts and toke it.

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: pacific blue]
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If a way to live forever comes up in my life I'll jump onboard. But honestly, I think such a thing would be bad for the species. Overpopulation much? I guess it would be okay if we expand into space, but I doubt the limitations on that would be anything less than staggering for eons. I'd rather rot in the ground than watch the stubborn persistence of my peers and I starve our great-great-grandchildren.

Creating a self-aware, sentient computer AI will give us far more insight into the functioning of our own minds than making babies in the traditional fashion would. Our bodies are built with the equipment for that, and we'd go extinct without it. To synthesize a mind is a momentous achievement.

If we ever build the technology to directly interface with the human brain, to examine its contents or project experiences into the mind of the subject, the maturity of the human race will be revealed very rapidly by its use of these technologies.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (12/11/07 12:15 AM)

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
If a way to live forever comes up in my life I'll jump onboard. But honestly, I think such a thing would be bad for the species. Overpopulation much? I guess it would be okay if we expand into space, but I doubt the limitations on that would be anything less than staggering for eons.


Yes, I'm all for creating human immortality, but only in conjunction with space travel. The closest star next to our sun is about 4 light years away, and we don't currently have the technology to go anywhere near the speed of light. Aside from developing better technology to overcome space radiation, create artificial gravity, and travel faster, it seems we'll also need to work on life extension in order to truly explore the universe.

Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind allowing immortals on earth, but they would have to agree to sterilization before being given the treatment.


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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: Silversoul]
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Sorry Manny, but the population is 12 billion and there is no space travel yet. We have to put you down - that's The Law!


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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
Creating a self-aware, sentient computer AI will give us far more insight into the functioning of our own minds than making babies in the traditional fashion would. Our bodies are built with the equipment for that, and we'd go extinct without it. To synthesize a mind is a momentous achievement.

If we ever build the technology to directly interface with the human brain, to examine its contents or project experiences into the mind of the subject, the maturity of the human race will be revealed very rapidly by its use of these technologies.


This is what I am referring to; not immortality per se, but to better understand our existence through our own power of creation. To understand the mind through artificially creating one.


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: mikebart101]
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mikebart101 said:
All of humanity's greatest achievements, our creations, our stem-cells, our cloning, bio-engineering, mechanical organs, electrical nerves, and computers will one day lead us to artificial intelligence.


why do you feel these are humanity's greatest achievements?


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channel your inner Larry David

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: demiu5]
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We have yet to see cars fly.. That's what I want to see in my life time. That and robots. Like I, Robot.


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Evolution of Time.

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Sorry Manny, but the population is 12 billion and there is no space travel yet. We have to put you down - that's The Law!


I believe that episode was called "The Lottery"....    :thumbup:




Silversoul said:
Aside from developing better technology to overcome space radiation, create artificial gravity, and travel faster, it seems we'll also need to work on life extension in order to truly explore the universe.


NASA is also looking into the bag of trick of the traditional Voodoo witchdoctors....    There is some chemical (thought to be that of the poisonous puffer fish) that the witchdoctors use to put people into a temporary catatonic deathlike state....    The witchdoctors use it to make zombie slaves of the "dead", but NASA is investigating this as an option for extended space travel....  :thumbup:


>^;;^<


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I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."
>^;;^<

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Re: Evolution of Technology and Existence [Re: PhanTomCat]
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I believe that movie was called "The Serpent and the Rainbow."

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