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So i've been told i'm asleep
#7746289 - 12/11/07 06:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How does one awaken?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7746307 - 12/11/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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recognition is the first stage, usually
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: demiu5]
#7746313 - 12/11/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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demius said: recognition is the first stage, usually
1. Recognition 2. ???? 3. Profit!
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
#7746373 - 12/11/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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that doesn't really help
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7746418 - 12/11/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said: How does one awaken?
Crack-Cocaine
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7746507 - 12/11/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well, you must intend more than anything else to know everything there is behind the truth. This is what you must strive to know more than anything. You obviously have intention so I will help pave the way. psitek.net is a website full of books that are all intended to bring the reader into a better understanding of the truth. The best one I would suggest to start from is The Master Key System, it has vastly changed my life for the benefit of myself and others like yourself who seek the change that is inevitable.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7746514 - 12/11/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said: So i've been told i'm asleep How does one awaken?
this one is simple.
realize that your government has been lying to you, 9/11 was an inside job, bush is an opium-funded nazi, bob marley, hunter s thompson and JFK jr were assassinated, and ron paul for president.
oh wait, where am I again... P&S? hmm..
In that case, imagine I just said something really abstract that didn't make much sense until you applied your own meaning to it.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
#7746520 - 12/11/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'm thinking something about underpants, but we'll see where this leads us
to op: but really, once you're aware of a problem or situation, you can choose to act upon it or not. if you want to 'wake up' as you say, choose to act upon it
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: extraordinary]
#7746528 - 12/11/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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extraordinary said: you must intend more than anything else to know everything there is behind the truth. This is what you must strive to know more than anything.
i think the only "truth" is that truth is completely subjective, and too abstract of a concept to describe anything accurately, other than abstraction itself. (see, I have some of that P&S stuff too)
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7746533 - 12/11/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if someone said that to you then usually it means that youre not living consciously. There are two things that can be done.1. Try to look deeper into things in your everyday life.For example, commercials, Dont watch a commercial and be entertained by the pretty colors and scantily clad women, understand that you are being bombarded with subliminal messages and that some corporation is depending on you not being conscious of their mental intrusions. Dont be a mindless consumer. 2. Entheogens, a shortcut to the other side, really really speeds up the process. Start out small, go big.
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How to Get Free
Walk backwards upside down Eat with your hands Don't sleep at night Pretend your body is charged with electric current 1 trillion volts Bend spoons Scream as loud as you can Hyperventilate Hypoventilate Dance wildly Pretend to be an animal Laugh uproariously Forget everything Love all of it Do what you want Want anything Want nothing
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: kotik]
#7746577 - 12/11/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think the only "truth" is that truth is completely subjective, and too abstract of a concept to describe anything accurately, other than abstraction itself. (see, I have some of that P&S stuff too)
Well no matter how objective we are, objectivity is determined by subjectivity even if it is pure abstraction. Abstract thought has been likened to be the main cause of any type of contribution to the human race. It used to be abstract to believe that things not seen make up all exsistence, or the world as a sphere. This is a progression isn't it? Anything other than abstract is either the current or the old, which get us nowhere.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7746595 - 12/11/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any wagers on how long until someone posts a link to Zeitgeist?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: extraordinary]
#7746601 - 12/11/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the way i see it: everyone is asleep. if you realise you are asleep, your dream can become lucid, you can control reality. create your own one. who knows what's out there once you wake up. take pleasure in the illusion and you will eventually wake up. even if this is not the answer... at least you enjoyed the ride.
i dont understand why everyone always wants to wake up. be content with what you have, enjoy yourself and help others enjoy themselves. if you wake up great, if you don't, you have never known any better anyway. take it as it comes.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
#7746606 - 12/11/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Never seen it only heard of it. If it's good why not?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: extraordinary]
#7746607 - 12/11/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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it's a continuous process of letting go of what you know to see what is happenning. rather than learning it is mostly unlearning rather than adding layers of external ideas it is continuous clearing away of the dried mucous after sexy ideas have come and gone...
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7746614 - 12/11/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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IMO, the difference between "awake" and "asleep," philosophically speaking, is that those who are asleep think that they can perceive Truth, and those who are awake realize that we are all guessing.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: extraordinary]
#7746623 - 12/11/07 07:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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extraordinary said: Never seen it only heard of it. If it's good why not?
It's a horrible excuse for a documentary which is annoyingly popular around here.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
#7746640 - 12/11/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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how is that does it detract from the evolution of human consciousness?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: extraordinary]
#7746642 - 12/11/07 07:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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extraordinary said: It used to be abstract to believe that things not seen make up all exsistence, or the world as a sphere.
oh, is that not abstract anymore? I would say it is.
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ts727 said: if someone said that to you then usually it means that youre not living consciously. There are two things that can be done.1. Try to look deeper into things in your everyday life.For example, commercials, Dont watch a commercial and be entertained by the pretty colors and scantily clad women, understand that you are being bombarded with subliminal messages and that some corporation is depending on you not being conscious of their mental intrusions. Dont be a mindless consumer. 2. Entheogens, a shortcut to the other side, really really speeds up the process. Start out small, go big.
The other side of what though
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: SapphireCat]
#7747116 - 12/11/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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SapphireCat said: the way i see it: everyone is asleep. if you realise you are asleep, your dream can become lucid, you can control reality. create your own one. who knows what's out there once you wake up. take pleasure in the illusion and you will eventually wake up. even if this is not the answer... at least you enjoyed the ride.
i dont understand why everyone always wants to wake up. be content with what you have, enjoy yourself and help others enjoy themselves. if you wake up great, if you don't, you have never known any better anyway. take it as it comes.
This is what I meant when I made this thread. To get to this point. To "wake up".
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Veritas]
#7748279 - 12/12/07 07:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Veritas said: IMO, the difference between "awake" and "asleep," philosophically speaking, is that those who are asleep think that they can perceive Truth, and those who are awake realize that we are all guessing.
Guessing about what? Being awake is realizing truth.
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I think it's foolish of us to sustain that we know the Truth. Of course, there are things which can be considered as being true and that we acknowledge, but this doesn't mean that we can talk about a universal Truth.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7748617 - 12/12/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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true. They say it's true that china exists, i couldnt say that because ive never seen it with my own eyes.
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Yes, but there's plenty of reliable evidence to sustain the existence of China. It was not what I was referring to. Stating that you know the Truth implies that you have reached the ultimate level of knowledge. Which instantly implies that there's nothing more beyond that. And that the truth that you know applies for everybody, everywhere and each circumstance. Can you say that?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7748818 - 12/12/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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with things that i know to be true yes. Such as the sun being bright. It's bright for everyone under it is it not?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7748822 - 12/12/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said:
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ts727 said: if someone said that to you then usually it means that youre not living consciously. There are two things that can be done.1. Try to look deeper into things in your everyday life.For example, commercials, Dont watch a commercial and be entertained by the pretty colors and scantily clad women, understand that you are being bombarded with subliminal messages and that some corporation is depending on you not being conscious of their mental intrusions. Dont be a mindless consumer. 2. Entheogens, a shortcut to the other side, really really speeds up the process. Start out small, go big.
The other side of what though
the other side being awareness.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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For blind people it is not. The Sun will not exist forever. THIS makes it at best a momentarily truth. Also it is bright compared to what we know. Appreciated with the measurements that we use. Can you tell for certain if the Sun is bright for the rest of the universe?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7748850 - 12/12/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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truth doesnt apply to the universe because it is unexplored IMO. I say it applies to this world. And the sun it still bright to the blind. you can feel its warmth.
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truth doesnt apply to the universe because it is unexplored IMO
So how can you say you know the truth when you don't have all the data from all the sources which are required in order to attest it's validity?
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I say it applies to this world.
Which makes it a common truth not the Truth.
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Warmth is not a quality that you find solely in bright things.
For blind people, the fact the sun warms them does not hold any importance when it comes to the visual quality.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7749337 - 12/12/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yawn. im over this. off to work!
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I can't help it but remain amazed when someone gets pissed if their ideas are challenged. And it's not because I don't understand where they're coming from, but because I know what's on my mind when I do that.  Anyways, it's far more fruitful to pass those fixed ideas and discover communication and the exchange of ideas.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7749366 - 12/12/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I skipped most, I will reread, but
Be aware that you have a choice. That's all.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7749673 - 12/12/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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once again, it is funny to see that nothing has changed since Greek times . socrates, or in this case, mushroomtrip, points out a flaw in someone's logic or asks them to clarify something, and euthyphro, or in this case, ts727, is too busy or above it all to waste any more time on the subject
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Veritas said: IMO, the difference between "awake" and "asleep," philosophically speaking, is that those who are asleep think that they can perceive Truth, and those who are awake realize that we are all guessing.
Guessing about what? Being awake is realizing truth.
Note that I said "philosophically speaking." Those who are arrogant enough to claim that their philosophy is the TRUTH are asleep.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7749993 - 12/12/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said: How does one awaken?
Pay attention. The more you pay attention the crazier things get. Welcome to the fun house. Nothing to fear, but that won't stop you from trying.
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IMO this is an example of being asleep. Guessing about what? Being awake is realizing truth.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Icelander]
#7750160 - 12/12/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said: How does one awaken?
Pay attention. The more you pay attention the crazier things get. Welcome to the fun house. Nothing to fear, but that won't stop you from trying.
the fun house eh? I guess i'll see what you mean soon enough.
I'll take what you said to heart, i'll focus more on what i'm doing.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7752474 - 12/13/07 02:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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arguing about truth is a nightmare I want to wake up but I am cold so I will go back to bed where it is warm maybe I will fall asleep again.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7752583 - 12/13/07 05:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MushroomTrip said: Stating that you know the Truth implies that you have reached the ultimate level of knowledge.
who says that???? and why is what they said taken as true?
that all sounds like a belief of what truth is....
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Mastamike1118]
#7752621 - 12/13/07 05:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is a logical statement so it stands on his own. I already explained WHY it is so on my earlier posts in this thread.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: redgreenvines]
#7752844 - 12/13/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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you guys are somewhat ridiculous. Forgive me for having a job , im totally down for discussing this since i seem to be sooo wrong. Im not saying that my views are truth and im not claiming to have all the answers. Im just a regular guy that thinks about things. You all act as if youve been aware youre entire lives. Im fairly sure everyone remembers the time when they were asleep. We all had our turning points. Im not arrogant in any way, nor was i pissed off. Honestly i think you guys wanted me to be mad so you could say condescending things.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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EternalCowabunga said:
if we evolve any faster the other animals are going to start getting jealous
This is hilarious, but no one had anything to say about. Im assuming it's because a lot of them are just as conceited.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7754312 - 12/13/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You will wake up eventually. Enjoy the dream while you can.
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ts727 said:
you guys are somewhat ridiculous.
Please ts727, no personalisms / name calling.
"It is ridiculous to assume I was angry..." = Acceptable.
"You are..." = Fail.
Thanks.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: fushock]
#7754796 - 12/13/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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fushock said: You will wake up eventually. Enjoy the dream while you can.
I thought where you where get to really enjoy thing was when you wake up?
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ts727 said: you guys are somewhat ridiculous. Forgive me for having a job , im totally down for discussing this since i seem to be sooo wrong. Im not saying that my views are truth and im not claiming to have all the answers. Im just a regular guy that thinks about things. You all act as if youve been aware youre entire lives. Im fairly sure everyone remembers the time when they were asleep. We all had our turning points. Im not arrogant in any way, nor was i pissed off. Honestly i think you guys wanted me to be mad so you could say condescending things.
We are all asleep ALL OF US! It's a partial awakening at best IMO.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Icelander]
#7754857 - 12/13/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Caffeine = truth
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7754877 - 12/13/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said:
How does one awaken?
Look for a book called "In Search of the Miraculous" by P.D. Ouspensky
Also, the book "The Human Biological Machine as a Transformational Apparatus" by E.J. Gold is a great aid to understanding Gurdjieff's teachings.
One of the most important ways to "awaken the machine" is to pay close attention to your physical postures and movements.
There are very good reasons for this that I don't have time to go into right now...
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Middleman]
#7754928 - 12/13/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Middleman said:
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future said:
How does one awaken?
Look for a book called "In Search of the Miraculous" by P.D. Ouspensky
Also, the book "The Human Biological Machine as a Transformational Apparatus" by E.J. Gold is a great aid to understanding Gurdjieff's teachings.
One of the most important ways to "awaken the machine" is to pay close attention to your physical postures and movements.
There are very good reasons for this that I don't have time to go into right now...
Interesting, could you explain the reasons once you have time?
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OrgoneConclusion said: Caffeine = truth
Blessed are the coffeemakers
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
#7755329 - 12/13/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Silversoul said:
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OrgoneConclusion said: Caffeine = truth
"Bessed are the coffeemakers"
-Mr. Coffee
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Middleman]
#7756116 - 12/13/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Middleman said:
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ts727 said:
you guys are somewhat ridiculous.
Please ts727, no personalisms / name calling.
"It is ridiculous to assume I was angry..." = Acceptable.
"You are..." = Fail. that wasnt directed at any one person. those who were acting in a ridiculous fashion know they are. Thanks.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7757208 - 12/14/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How does one awaken?
Well, for starters don't waste loads of time talking about the nature of truth with a bunch of other people over the internet. That is what puts you to sleep. Get up, get out and experience.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#7757725 - 12/14/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said:
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How does one awaken?
Well, for starters don't waste loads of time talking about the nature of truth with a bunch of other people over the internet. That is what puts you to sleep. Get up, get out and experience.
I call bullshit. This is just as valid of an "experience" as anything else you call up and out.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: redgreenvines]
#7757761 - 12/14/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try to think about your parts, your arms, your legs, hands, ect. Think of their parts, veins, muscles, connective tissues. Now think of the parts of those parts, protiens, fats, carbohydrates. Their parts? Carbon containing molecules. Their parts? Electrons, neutrons, protons. Their parts? Quarks, neutrinos, ect. And the parts of those parts and the parts of their parts ad infinitium. Once you get to the bottom, there aren't any more parts, just one whole, and this whole is you, and I, and your dog, and this planet. On that scale, it doesn't matter whether you are John Smith or Jupiter, the whole is homogeneous because it is everything, the embodiment of the perfect normal curve.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
#7758811 - 12/14/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Silversoul said:
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demius said: recognition is the first stage, usually
1. Recognition 2. ???? 3. Profit!
Wait, what!? Are you a Subgenius?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7759376 - 12/14/07 05:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said:
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fushock said: You will wake up eventually. Enjoy the dream while you can.
I thought where you where get to really enjoy thing was when you wake up?
you get to enjoy things when you just treat life as a trip and just go with it. Learn to accept things. You might not agree with someone, that doesn't make them wrong. there can be more than one right. Any point can be argued and defended from the right perspective. Act completely within your own right, but do not infringe on another mans. it is his to have.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Icelander]
#7759552 - 12/14/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I call bullshit.
You can call whatever you like if it makes you feel better.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#7760931 - 12/15/07 03:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am adding my 2 cents of wisdom, ignorant to the fact that somebody is going to disagree with it, to make everyone agree on the issue, so that we don't disagree, because that would be terrible. I hate when things are terrible, I cannot function unless they are not terrible!!
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#7762198 - 12/15/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I call bullshit.
You can call whatever you like if it makes you feel better.
Good response as it avoids a real reply to my post.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7762263 - 12/15/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Generally, one is asleep, then dreaming, then waking, then in samadhi on oneself. So deep ignorance, then irreality, then reality, then state of self awareness free of objects save for self. Then after this long equation takes off one never loses state of self awareness even when asleep. Then it's as if one is aware of that, and all the rest at the same time. That is hyperawake. What most gurus are describing.
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