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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7752583 - 12/13/07 05:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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MushroomTrip said:
Stating that you know the Truth implies that you have reached the ultimate level of knowledge.




who says that???? and why is what they said taken as true?


that all sounds like a belief of what truth is....


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7752621 - 12/13/07 05:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It is a logical statement so it stands on his own.
I already explained WHY it is so on my earlier posts in this thread.


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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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InvisibleJack Albertson
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7752844 - 12/13/07 08:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

you guys are somewhat ridiculous. Forgive me for having a job , im totally down for discussing this since i seem to be sooo wrong. Im not saying that my views are truth and im not claiming to have all the answers. Im just a regular guy that thinks about things. You all act as if youve been aware youre entire lives. Im fairly sure everyone remembers the time when they were asleep. We all had our turning points.
Im not arrogant in any way, nor was i pissed off. Honestly i think you guys wanted me to be mad so you could say condescending things.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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InvisibleJack Albertson
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7752854 - 12/13/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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EternalCowabunga said:

if we evolve any faster the other animals are going to start getting jealous  :monkeydance:



This is hilarious, but no one had anything to say about. Im assuming it's because a lot of them are just as conceited.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
    #7754312 - 12/13/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You will wake up eventually. Enjoy the dream while you can.


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7754577 - 12/13/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ts727 said:

you guys are somewhat ridiculous.




Please ts727, no personalisms / name calling.

"It is ridiculous to assume I was angry..." = Acceptable.

"You are..." = Fail.


Thanks. :kittyeagle:


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: fushock]
    #7754796 - 12/13/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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fushock said:
You will wake up eventually. Enjoy the dream while you can.




I thought where you where get to really enjoy thing was when you wake up?


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7754822 - 12/13/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

ts727 said:
you guys are somewhat ridiculous. Forgive me for having a job , im totally down for discussing this since i seem to be sooo wrong. Im not saying that my views are truth and im not claiming to have all the answers. Im just a regular guy that thinks about things. You all act as if youve been aware youre entire lives. Im fairly sure everyone remembers the time when they were asleep. We all had our turning points.
Im not arrogant in any way, nor was i pissed off. Honestly i think you guys wanted me to be mad so you could say condescending things.




We are all asleep ALL OF US! It's a partial awakening at best IMO.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Icelander]
    #7754857 - 12/13/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Caffeine = truth


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
    #7754877 - 12/13/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

future said:

How does one awaken?




Look for a book called "In Search of the Miraculous" by P.D. Ouspensky

Also, the book "The Human Biological Machine as a Transformational Apparatus" by E.J. Gold is a great aid to understanding Gurdjieff's teachings.

One of the most important ways to "awaken the machine" is to pay close attention to your physical postures and movements.

There are very good reasons for this that I don't have time to go into right now...


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Middleman]
    #7754928 - 12/13/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Middleman said:
Quote:

future said:

How does one awaken?




Look for a book called "In Search of the Miraculous" by P.D. Ouspensky

Also, the book "The Human Biological Machine as a Transformational Apparatus" by E.J. Gold is a great aid to understanding Gurdjieff's teachings.

One of the most important ways to "awaken the machine" is to pay close attention to your physical postures and movements.

There are very good reasons for this that I don't have time to go into right now...





Interesting, could you explain the reasons once you have time?


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7755306 - 12/13/07 07:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Caffeine = truth



Blessed are the coffeemakers


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
    #7755329 - 12/13/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Silversoul said:
Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Caffeine = truth



"Bessed are the coffeemakers"


-Mr. Coffee


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Middleman]
    #7756116 - 12/13/07 09:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Middleman said:
Quote:

ts727 said:

you guys are somewhat ridiculous.




Please ts727, no personalisms / name calling.

"It is ridiculous to assume I was angry..." = Acceptable.

"You are..." = Fail.

that wasnt directed at any one person. those who were acting in a ridiculous fashion know they are.
Thanks. :kittyeagle:




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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
TRANSCEND



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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7756275 - 12/13/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

truthing is the ultimate truth.


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
    #7757208 - 12/14/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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How does one awaken?




Well, for starters don't waste loads of time talking about the nature of truth with a bunch of other people over the internet. That is what puts you to sleep. Get up, get out and experience.


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #7757725 - 12/14/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Huehuecoyotl said:
Quote:

How does one awaken?




Well, for starters don't waste loads of time talking about the nature of truth with a bunch of other people over the internet. That is what puts you to sleep. Get up, get out and experience.




I call bullshit. This is just as valid of an "experience" as anything else you call up and out.:thumbdown:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7757761 - 12/14/07 10:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Try to think about your parts, your arms, your legs, hands, ect. Think of their parts, veins, muscles, connective tissues. Now think of the parts of those parts, protiens, fats, carbohydrates. Their parts? Carbon containing molecules. Their parts? Electrons, neutrons, protons. Their parts? Quarks, neutrinos, ect. And the parts of those parts and the parts of their parts ad infinitium. Once you get to the bottom, there aren't any more parts, just one whole, and this whole is you, and I, and your dog, and this planet. On that scale, it doesn't matter whether you are John Smith or Jupiter, the whole is homogeneous because it is everything, the embodiment of the perfect normal curve.


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Silversoul]
    #7758811 - 12/14/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Silversoul said:
Quote:

demius said:
recognition is the first stage, usually



1. Recognition
2. ????
3. Profit!




Wait, what!? Are you a Subgenius?


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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushmanTheManic]
    #7758822 - 12/14/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Praise Bob!



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