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future
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ts727 said: if someone said that to you then usually it means that youre not living consciously. There are two things that can be done.1. Try to look deeper into things in your everyday life.For example, commercials, Dont watch a commercial and be entertained by the pretty colors and scantily clad women, understand that you are being bombarded with subliminal messages and that some corporation is depending on you not being conscious of their mental intrusions. Dont be a mindless consumer. 2. Entheogens, a shortcut to the other side, really really speeds up the process. Start out small, go big.
The other side of what though
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: SapphireCat]
#7747116 - 12/11/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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SapphireCat said: the way i see it: everyone is asleep. if you realise you are asleep, your dream can become lucid, you can control reality. create your own one. who knows what's out there once you wake up. take pleasure in the illusion and you will eventually wake up. even if this is not the answer... at least you enjoyed the ride.
i dont understand why everyone always wants to wake up. be content with what you have, enjoy yourself and help others enjoy themselves. if you wake up great, if you don't, you have never known any better anyway. take it as it comes.
This is what I meant when I made this thread. To get to this point. To "wake up".
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Veritas]
#7748279 - 12/12/07 07:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Veritas said: IMO, the difference between "awake" and "asleep," philosophically speaking, is that those who are asleep think that they can perceive Truth, and those who are awake realize that we are all guessing.
Guessing about what? Being awake is realizing truth.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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I think it's foolish of us to sustain that we know the Truth. Of course, there are things which can be considered as being true and that we acknowledge, but this doesn't mean that we can talk about a universal Truth.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7748617 - 12/12/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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true. They say it's true that china exists, i couldnt say that because ive never seen it with my own eyes.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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Yes, but there's plenty of reliable evidence to sustain the existence of China. It was not what I was referring to. Stating that you know the Truth implies that you have reached the ultimate level of knowledge. Which instantly implies that there's nothing more beyond that. And that the truth that you know applies for everybody, everywhere and each circumstance. Can you say that?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7748818 - 12/12/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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with things that i know to be true yes. Such as the sun being bright. It's bright for everyone under it is it not?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7748822 - 12/12/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said:
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ts727 said: if someone said that to you then usually it means that youre not living consciously. There are two things that can be done.1. Try to look deeper into things in your everyday life.For example, commercials, Dont watch a commercial and be entertained by the pretty colors and scantily clad women, understand that you are being bombarded with subliminal messages and that some corporation is depending on you not being conscious of their mental intrusions. Dont be a mindless consumer. 2. Entheogens, a shortcut to the other side, really really speeds up the process. Start out small, go big.
The other side of what though
the other side being awareness.
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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For blind people it is not. The Sun will not exist forever. THIS makes it at best a momentarily truth. Also it is bright compared to what we know. Appreciated with the measurements that we use. Can you tell for certain if the Sun is bright for the rest of the universe?
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7748850 - 12/12/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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truth doesnt apply to the universe because it is unexplored IMO. I say it applies to this world. And the sun it still bright to the blind. you can feel its warmth.
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truth doesnt apply to the universe because it is unexplored IMO
So how can you say you know the truth when you don't have all the data from all the sources which are required in order to attest it's validity?
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I say it applies to this world.
Which makes it a common truth not the Truth.
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And the sun it still bright to the blind. you can feel its warmth.
Warmth is not a quality that you find solely in bright things.
For blind people, the fact the sun warms them does not hold any importance when it comes to the visual quality.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7749337 - 12/12/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yawn. im over this. off to work!
-------------------- Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time TRANSCEND
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I can't help it but remain amazed when someone gets pissed if their ideas are challenged. And it's not because I don't understand where they're coming from, but because I know what's on my mind when I do that.  Anyways, it's far more fruitful to pass those fixed ideas and discover communication and the exchange of ideas.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7749366 - 12/12/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I skipped most, I will reread, but
Be aware that you have a choice. That's all.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: BlueCoyote]
#7749673 - 12/12/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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once again, it is funny to see that nothing has changed since Greek times . socrates, or in this case, mushroomtrip, points out a flaw in someone's logic or asks them to clarify something, and euthyphro, or in this case, ts727, is too busy or above it all to waste any more time on the subject
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Veritas said: IMO, the difference between "awake" and "asleep," philosophically speaking, is that those who are asleep think that they can perceive Truth, and those who are awake realize that we are all guessing.
Guessing about what? Being awake is realizing truth.
Note that I said "philosophically speaking." Those who are arrogant enough to claim that their philosophy is the TRUTH are asleep.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7749993 - 12/12/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said: How does one awaken?
Pay attention. The more you pay attention the crazier things get. Welcome to the fun house. Nothing to fear, but that won't stop you from trying.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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IMO this is an example of being asleep. Guessing about what? Being awake is realizing truth.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: Icelander]
#7750160 - 12/12/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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future said: How does one awaken?
Pay attention. The more you pay attention the crazier things get. Welcome to the fun house. Nothing to fear, but that won't stop you from trying.
the fun house eh? I guess i'll see what you mean soon enough.
I'll take what you said to heart, i'll focus more on what i'm doing.
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Re: So i've been told i'm asleep [Re: future]
#7752474 - 12/13/07 02:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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arguing about truth is a nightmare I want to wake up but I am cold so I will go back to bed where it is warm maybe I will fall asleep again.
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