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Penalties in US for growing shrooms
    #7745317 - 12/11/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

As a European I am often amazed if not shocked by the harsh penalties in the US regarding the use of drugs. Just out of curiosity I wondered what penalties you can expect if the pigs find a few cakes in your room. Can anyone shed a light on this? And do you know any cases of ppl being convicted?


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: Nebula]
    #7745362 - 12/11/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

in Ohio, two years mandatory minimum, with probable paroll after release


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: johnm214]
    #7745424 - 12/11/07 03:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Absolutely disgusting. Once again I'm shocked, this is completely beyond me.
Who the hell are you harming anyway if you're growing them for private use?


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: Nebula]
    #7745477 - 12/11/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what is the law in europe? Know any of them?

I'm curious as to the comparison... and if they have mandatory terms for this type of stuff.

Note, the term manufacturing of mushrooms includes dropping a spore into a coke can that germinates a few minutes later


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: johnm214]
    #7745886 - 12/11/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

From Washington State RCW 69.50.401
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1) Except as authorized by this chapter, it is unlawful for any person to manufacture, deliver, or possess with intent to manufacture or deliver, a controlled substance.

(2) Any person who violates this section with respect to:

(a) A controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II which is a narcotic drug or flunitrazepam, including its salts, isomers, and salts of isomers, classified in Schedule IV, is guilty of a class B felony and upon conviction may be imprisoned for not more than ten years, or (i) fined not more than twenty-five thousand dollars if the crime involved less than two kilograms of the drug, or both such imprisonment and fine; or (ii) if the crime involved two or more kilograms of the drug, then fined not more than one hundred thousand dollars for the first two kilograms and not more than fifty dollars for each gram in excess of two kilograms, or both such imprisonment and fine;





Class B Felony....tasty.


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: slackophage]
    #7745961 - 12/11/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well what is the definition they use of a narcotic drug? That doesn't fit mushroom's description, but then drug laws often conflate narcotic and psychotropic, so perhaps the law decided to make their own definition or the word


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: johnm214]
    #7746005 - 12/11/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Washington State Schedule I narcotics

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(c) Hallucinogenic substances. Unless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of the following hallucinogenic substances, including their salts, isomers, and salts of isomers whenever the existence of those salts, isomers, and salts of isomers is possible within the specific chemical designation.





The link has the whole list, pretty comprehensive including some of our favorites from PiHKAL. Marijuana is listed in there too, but we have a separate law for <40g.


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: slackophage]
    #7746137 - 12/11/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

interesting, though it doesn't define narcotic drug in that list.

I'm not saying a judge wouldn't fuck you over, but the law said narcotic drug and then schedule 1 and 2, and while mushrooms would be within scheudle 1, they're not a narcotic drug.

And your link suddenly stopped working for me, so who knows... :sad:


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: johnm214]
    #7746159 - 12/11/07 05:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, the site's been up & down...working now tho

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=69.50.101

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(r) "Narcotic drug" means any of the following, whether produced directly or indirectly by extraction from substances of vegetable origin, or independently by means of chemical synthesis, or by a combination of extraction and chemical synthesis:




Another list is in link; basically opiates, cocaine, and their ilk.


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: slackophage]
    #7746238 - 12/11/07 06:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ok, so they follow the federal definition (which is still wrong, but whatever... at least they're not calling marijuana a narcotic)


looks like class c to me

max penalty:
(c) For a class C felony, by confinement in a state correctional institution for five years, or by a fine in an amount fixed by the court of ten thousand dollars, or by both such confinement and fine.


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: Nebula]
    #7747217 - 12/11/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yes i run into alot of international people in the U.S vacationing and they think the U.S is "the free ish country in the world" lots of media brain washing, the U.S has an economy based on locking people up, prisons are a business in the U.S., i love it when i hear people from euro come over and say, they finger printed me and took my picture when i entered the U.S, welcome to 1984


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: johnm214]
    #7787998 - 12/22/07 03:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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johnm214 said:
what is the law in europe? Know any of them?

I'm curious as to the comparison... and if they have mandatory terms for this type of stuff.

Note, the term manufacturing of mushrooms includes dropping a spore into a coke can that germinates a few minutes later



I cannot provide you exact figures, but this site explains the policy of various European countries:

http://www.drugpolicy.org/global/drugpolicyby/westerneurop/

As you can see, the policy varies quite a bit. Sweden is very repressive, but Spain, Holland and Switzerland are more relaxed, especially with regards to the possession of small amount of weed for private use.


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Re: Penalties in US for growing shrooms [Re: 5150]
    #7788003 - 12/22/07 03:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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5150 said:
yes i run into alot of international people in the U.S vacationing and they think the U.S is "the free ish country in the world" lots of media brain washing, the U.S has an economy based on locking people up, prisons are a business in the U.S., i love it when i hear people from euro come over and say, they finger printed me and took my picture when i entered the U.S, welcome to 1984



Yes, the US, the "home of the free", has the highest incarceration rate of the world:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1209-01.htm

It's about 7 or 8 times higher than other western countries.


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