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soundtrance
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ayahuasca vs mescaline?
#7745008 - 12/11/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i cant make up my mind if i should buy the stuff to make some ayahuasca or buy some san pedro. ive never done either and i was wondering what other people preffered and whats the trip like on both of them?
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: soundtrance]
#7745017 - 12/11/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: soundtrance]
#7745039 - 12/11/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ask yourself some questions, are you wanting an easy trip? Do you want to learn a lot? Are you just wanting to get "high"? If you are just wanting to get high, flip a coin, they are both cool. If you are wanting to learn a little something from them, then do some research on them and learn something. They are very different and both good in their own light.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: soundtrance]
#7745336 - 12/11/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Both will eat holes in your brain and you will die
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soundtrance
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: Robo]
#7745349 - 12/11/07 02:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha wtf
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: soundtrance]
#7745563 - 12/11/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Never done DMT before, so can someone explain to me the purpose of taking an MAOI with it?
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: newlife]
#7745630 - 12/11/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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it's the only way it is orally active
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: newlife]
#7745642 - 12/11/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Monoamine oxidase is an enzyme produced by the human body which speeds up oxidation of monoamines. An example of a monoamine is,in this case, tryptamine (i.e. dimethyltryptamine).
If DMT isn't taken with something that represses that oxidation (MAOI), it's destroyed before it ever reaches the cental nervous system. This is the reason DMT taken orally is inactive unless combined with a substance that acts as an MAOI.
Edited by Ombient (12/11/07 03:59 PM)
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: Robo]
#7745762 - 12/11/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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both!
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I had this same debacle a couple of weeks ago! If it's your first trip, stick with the Pedro.
I found it to be an excellent introduction to psychedelics for me.
Afterall, would you rather walk around smiling at plants and nodding at people, or lay there vomitting and bawling about how your mother never loved you with dragons growing out of your nipples? Both are good experiences, but one is definitely a little easier for the less experienced.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: PyroBurns]
#7759242 - 12/14/07 05:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have give people aya with mushrooms and cactus before even people who havent really triped before
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: PyroBurns]
#7759249 - 12/14/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good. I thought I was the only person with dragons coming out of my nipples
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soundtrance
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o it wouldnt be my first trip. its just a hard choice for me ive done more tryptamines than phenethylamines the only phenethylamine ive done is mdma so im kinda leaning towards the san pedro. but ive never done dmt at all so idk what to chose hah.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: soundtrance]
#7759302 - 12/14/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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IMO PEA's have much less mind fuck than the tryptamine stuff.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: Robo]
#7759485 - 12/14/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you don't live to far from a desert, I say make a road trip and harvest some for free while exploring the nearby towns.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: PyroBurns]
#7760060 - 12/14/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Id go with the san pedro and make tea.
Ayahuasca is pretty complex and there are endless amounts of ways to make it. Heavy on the dmt, or heavy on the maois, + other additives, etc etc.
My guess is that you might just want to make a tea out of the pedro. Just buy enough, and do it right. Ayahuasca is much cheaper if you know where to look. but...... It just sounds like pedro is your best bet. Only because of the questions you asked.
Dont fuck with ayahuasca unless you are a person who knows alot about why its held on such a tall podium.
Both are very amazing.
Ayahuasca, to me, is like messing with magic that you may or may not want to work with during and after the experience.
Mescaline is no joke, but I cant really compare the two because of how I fell about ayahuasca.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: yageman]
#7766063 - 12/16/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i just read on the site i might be ordering from and it says the san pedro S.S.(super stressed) strain. it also says that these cacti have been left unattened for 2 years in harsh conditions and are san pedros on steriods. would this effect there potency?
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: soundtrance]
#7766072 - 12/16/07 03:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ya that means their xtra potent stress causes the cacti to produce mescy as a protective stragety
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: soundtrance]
#14736548 - 07/08/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ayahuasca is completely different to the San Pedro Cactus (mescaline). Ayahuasca is the sacred vine from the Amazons and is done during a ceremony with a Shaman at night. It is a diagnostic plant that sees you and is visionary. San Pedro (mescaline) is a sacred cactus taken during the day and it helps your mind bloom like a flower. It is best done during the day connecting with nature. Ayahuasca is the female and San Pedro (Huachuma) is the male. You must have respect for these medicines and not use it as a recreational drug. for more information visit www.cuscowahca.com
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: solemio]
#14736555 - 07/08/11 02:17 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
solemio said: Ayahuasca is completely different to the San Pedro Cactus (mescaline). Ayahuasca is the sacred vine from the Amazons and is done during a ceremony with a Shaman at night. It is a diagnostic plant that sees you and is visionary. San Pedro (mescaline) is a sacred cactus taken during the day and it helps your mind bloom like a flower. It is best done during the day connecting with nature. Ayahuasca is the female and San Pedro (Huachuma) is the male. You must have respect for these medicines and not use it as a recreational drug. for more information visit www.cuscowahca.com
This thread is three years old.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: solemio]
#14736939 - 07/08/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
solemio said: Ayahuasca is completely different to the San Pedro Cactus (mescaline). Ayahuasca is the sacred vine from the Amazons and is done during a ceremony with a Shaman at night. It is a diagnostic plant that sees you and is visionary. San Pedro (mescaline) is a sacred cactus taken during the day and it helps your mind bloom like a flower. It is best done during the day connecting with nature. Ayahuasca is the female and San Pedro (Huachuma) is the male. You must have respect for these medicines and not use it as a recreational drug. for more information visit www.cuscowahca.com
Another person telling me the specific way to take drugs.
Hint: There is no specific way to do anything. Nobody is correct, especially in the topic of drugs and how you should take them.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: solemio]
#14737198 - 07/08/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
solemio said: Ayahuasca is the sacred vine from the Amazons and is done during a ceremony with a Shaman at night. It is a diagnostic plant that sees you and is visionary. San Pedro (mescaline) is a sacred cactus taken during the day and it helps your mind bloom like a flower. It is best done during the day connecting with nature. Ayahuasca is the female and San Pedro (Huachuma) is the male. You must have respect for these medicines and not use it as a recreational drug. for more information visit www.cuscowahca.com
Bullshit.
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Re: ayahuasca vs mescaline? [Re: muistrue]
#14737260 - 07/08/11 04:54 PM (12 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mescaline. Ayahuasca can be quite scary and intense. Mescaline will treat you right.
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