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nicechrisman
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: sandman_130]
#7750382 - 12/12/07 05:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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In what way is it disrespectful?
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: nicechrisman]
#7750448 - 12/12/07 05:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushrooms originated on this planet (or from a different planet, but that's besides the point) for human consumption. Some pre-historic societies almost certainly had a diet that included psycho-active mushroom species. A study conducted in the 1950s found that at low doses, below the psychedelic threshold, psilocybin has a tendency to increase visual acuity among primates/humans.
I don't know exactly the effects of daily consumption at or above the psychedelic threshold, but I can't imagine it would have any negative effects. My best guess is that it would stimulate neural and nervous system activity with a positive outcome. Perhaps an increase in spatial reasoning, a more inclusive perspective of reality and consciousness... who knows?!
As far as respect goes, I return to my original point about the fact that mushrooms developed here for OUR use. If they are indeed an intelligent, alien life-form (which no one can know for sure) then it seems entirely unlikely that they would take offense to a person consuming them on a regular basis - as historical and pre-historical relationship between humans and psilocybin indicate.
I think it's a cool experiment and I intend to try a similar one of my own, only eating daily amounts below the psychedelic threshold.
Keep us posted on the results!
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: sandman_130]
#7750473 - 12/12/07 06:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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sandman_130 said: Seems somewhat disrespectful to the mushroom if you ask me.
get off your high horse.
this is like people her refer to lsd like its some girl.
nah, newsflash, its a drug.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: john706]
#7750709 - 12/12/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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nah, newsflash, its a drug.
foreal.
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GrizzyCappy
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I used to take a tiny dose everyday, also. It worked, everyday - just a little bit.
I could be around anyone and everyone and nobody would know except me.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: btb103]
#7750840 - 12/12/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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btb103 said: Mushrooms originated on this planet (or from a different planet, but that's besides the point) for human consumption.
I'm not entirely sure about that.
Mushrooms are trying to survive, just like other things that grow. They weren't "designed" with us in mind.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: GrizzyCappy]
#7750869 - 12/12/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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GrizzyCappy said: I used to take a tiny dose everyday, also. It worked, everyday - just a little bit.
I could be around anyone and everyone and nobody would know except me.
Awesome. I'd love to do that.
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This is a perfect example of why drugs are made illegal. You have someone taking 1 mushroom a day for a week, who would stop the neighbor from eating a quarter a day for the next month.
Yes I understand mushrooms are a drug, but if you are looking for a cheap high why use a drug like mushrooms?
At the end of the week, when shes done taking them, what then?
I took shrooms for a week...
uhh...
lol.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: Querjek]
#7752122 - 12/13/07 12:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Querjek said:
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btb103 said: Mushrooms originated on this planet (or from a different planet, but that's besides the point) for human consumption.
I'm not entirely sure about that.
Mushrooms are trying to survive, just like other things that grow. They weren't "designed" with us in mind.
I'm not entirely sure about it, either. But there's a lot of evidence that suggests it's so. I'm not going to really get into it here, because I know I can't do the argument justice. But if you look around, there's a lot of literature that points to the very possibility that mushrooms were central to the development of human consciousness as we know it today. They may also have been responsible for the evolution of proto-hominid forms to the anatomically modern homo sapiens (us). Combine this with the remarkably similar experiences reported by users of mushrooms and other mind-manifesting substances across cultural and geographic lines and you have a recipe for a class of plants that were in fact "designed with us in mind."
It's not just speculative literature from psychedelic explorers like Terence McKenna and Timothy Leary, either... but archaeologists, anthropologists, ethnobotanists, investigative journalists, and so on. Using methods as varied as their respective sciences, academics are building a strong case.
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RoosterCogburn said: I think I remember someone dosing everyday, and I think it led to some kind of psychosis... 
link!?!?!?
i thought that was b.s. like growing hair on your palms.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: kotik] 1
#7752478 - 12/13/07 02:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think there is any reason to get bent out of shape over this experiment. Extremely low doses could have a number of effects that are just unknown. Its silly to say that its disrespectful. Just because they were used in a certain way hundreds or thousands of years ago, does that mean that is the way they were "meant" to be used? There is no such proper use. We simply know their potential when taking a high dose. That doesn't mean a high dose is always the ultimate goal? There are certainly different ways to experience mind altering substances. Its unfair to judge the way in which each person decides to "experiment".
Also, In reference to this quote...
"Mushrooms are trying to survive, just like other things that grow. They weren't "designed" with us in mind."
If you think about the way we are spreading spores, home cultivating, cloning etc., for our benefit. We are assisting/promoting their survival. I would imagine, humans play a role in the spreading of species and strains in places around the world where the mushrooms would be less likely to exist by "chance".
It is examples like this that show, not the intelligence of plants and animals, but of the nature of the "designer".
We live in nature. We are nature.
The mushrooms are using us just as much as we are using them. (this goes for pretty much every plant we cultivate)
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: btb103]
#7752536 - 12/13/07 03:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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btb103 said: I'm not entirely sure about it, either. But there's a lot of evidence that suggests it's so. I'm not going to really get into it here, because I know I can't do the argument justice. But if you look around, there's a lot of literature that points to the very possibility that mushrooms were central to the development of human consciousness as we know it today. They may also have been responsible for the evolution of proto-hominid forms to the anatomically modern homo sapiens (us). Combine this with the remarkably similar experiences reported by users of mushrooms and other mind-manifesting substances across cultural and geographic lines and you have a recipe for a class of plants that were in fact "designed with us in mind."
yeah, i have food of the gods too...
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: CantiSama]
#7752660 - 12/13/07 06:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the only thing that's going to happen is on the 4th-7th days, she's just going to feel fucked up in the head and basically like shit the rest of the day. That is of course if she can even feel the effects come day 4 off of one mushroom.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: kotik]
#7752802 - 12/13/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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kotik said:
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RoosterCogburn said: I think I remember someone dosing everyday, and I think it led to some kind of psychosis... 
link!?!?!?
i thought that was b.s. like growing hair on your palms.
I went back and read the older threads... Nothing concrete. Sorry.
It was basically Wiccan Seeker making a passing reference to another non-sourced story.
With nothing solid against it, go for it.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: CantiSama]
#7753181 - 12/13/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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CantiSama said:
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btb103 said: I'm not entirely sure about it, either. But there's a lot of evidence that suggests it's so. I'm not going to really get into it here, because I know I can't do the argument justice. But if you look around, there's a lot of literature that points to the very possibility that mushrooms were central to the development of human consciousness as we know it today. They may also have been responsible for the evolution of proto-hominid forms to the anatomically modern homo sapiens (us). Combine this with the remarkably similar experiences reported by users of mushrooms and other mind-manifesting substances across cultural and geographic lines and you have a recipe for a class of plants that were in fact "designed with us in mind."
yeah, i have food of the gods too...
What's your point? I'm reading Hancock's "Supernatural" right now. If you're trying to suggest that the argument I'm talking about can only be found in his writings, you're wrong.
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If they do, and they don't like being eaten, then everyone on this site has the mushroom animosity equivalent the the jewish sentiments towards hitler.
Anyways, one shroom won't increase tolerance as much as a large dose will. That being said, a single shroom also shouldn't do that much. However, when you train yourself to relax and notice subtle difference you can certainly realize things at small doses.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: akb112211]
#7756750 - 12/13/07 11:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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akb112211 said:
Also, In reference to this quote...
"Mushrooms are trying to survive, just like other things that grow. They weren't "designed" with us in mind."
If you think about the way we are spreading spores, home cultivating, cloning etc., for our benefit. We are assisting/promoting their survival. I would imagine, humans play a role in the spreading of species and strains in places around the world where the mushrooms would be less likely to exist by "chance".
It is examples like this that show, not the intelligence of plants and animals, but of the nature of the "designer".
We live in nature. We are nature.
The mushrooms are using us just as much as we are using them. (this goes for pretty much every plant we cultivate)
awesome point!
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nicechrisman
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: MindGorilla]
#7761261 - 12/15/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel that she approached this experiment with the utmost respect for these mushrooms, and is in no way seeking a "cheap high". Otherwise, I wouldn't have supported her in going through with it. It's funny how many people here idolize McKenna, and Maria Sabina, but can't understand that others could possible find the same truths for themselves.
That said, there was a positive discovery. She suffers from an anxiety disorder, for which she is prescribed a couple different benzo's(xanax, klonipin). What she discovered during this experiment is that she was finding herself taking much smaller amounts, and less frequently. I think this could be of great value to many others who suffer from such disorders. Of course, mushrooms can have the opposite effect(if used disrespectfully), and I doubt that everyone would find the same results, but she felt that she was much more spiritually connected than before.
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Re: Mushroom a day experiment. [Re: nicechrisman]
#7777064 - 12/19/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You idiots seriously can't see a reason why someone would take a low dose of a hallucinogen for several days in a row?
You are fucking dumb. Even if you don't understand why, why would you just go off insulting this person who has, in my opinion, a very interesting experiment going on?
For god's sake, just lay off that goddam submit button. Read over your post before you push it, and then decide whether you should or should not contribute your own unique brand of idiocy to what could be an interesting discussion...
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LacunalSense
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No need to bring so much emotion into it, it is just perspective. Different personalities will react differently to this experiment, some may be altered negatively from this and some may find a new light. I did. I also went through what some would call psychosis. I call it awakening and deconstruction of conditioned reality. Some may find this negative and some positive. Some may bring negativity into this experience, some may bring positivity.
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