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desufnoC
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anxiety???
#7744261 - 12/11/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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my face gets real red when attention is on me. i start to sweat and i cant think straight. the only thing i can think of is how to get out of this situation as quick as possible. which usually leads to me just walking off or just starring down. when i say i cant think straight i mean that all my thoughts are so jumbled and dis ordered that nothing ever comes out right so i just come off as retarded. heres an example: I'm talking to one person (which I'm find, most of the time) and 2 more people walk up and join the conversation. now instead of having a simple conversation my face turns read, i sweat, i cant get a sentence out and if i do i mumble or stutter. normally i just sit there and grin or just walk off. its much worse then this but I'm not all that great at explain shit in great detail.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: desufnoC]
#7744270 - 12/11/07 09:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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anti-anxiety medication is great.
my mom has had stress and anxiety issues her whole life, which led to some annoyance to me growing up (early curfew, as she could NOT get to sleep unless i was home, etc).
now-a-days she's on some anti-anxiety meds and she's so much happier and more carefree. i can tell she loves her new 'life' so much, it makes me happy to see her so happy :-D
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desufnoC
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: memes]
#7744279 - 12/11/07 09:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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im gonna have to check it out. thanks
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: desufnoC]
#7744282 - 12/11/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Mushrooms.
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Quote:
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word.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: desufnoC]
#7744311 - 12/11/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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could bee you are letting yourself become dominated smiling with your eyes and brainwaves could hellpan
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Pick up smoking.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: desufnoC]
#7744347 - 12/11/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ask your doctor about benzodiazapines - they are a whole family of anti anxiety drugs that do work. Explain to your doctor specific everday situations (like you did above) when you get anxiety...I am precribed klonopin and xanax (both benzo's) and they work great. The xanax pill (that I am prescribed)disolves on your tongue in an instant and works immediately. Good luck.
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desuf,
i'm in a similar boat, not as extreme as you though. i've tried nearly every drug in the book and have found xanax to be the most successful.
if you've never taken xanax before, it will blow your mind, you'll go "wow, is this what normal people feel like?"
haha, take care man.
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Where can I buy xanax online, anybody know a good cheap source?
I'm UK, pretty sure its legal to buy it here.
I have similar problems desufnoC. I have found a few things to help alot. 1. Force yourself to think positively and not worry 2. Avoid some drugs, especially weed 3. Throw yourself in head first at any opportunity despite the consequences
and remember - its a big old world out there and we are but a grain of sand in an endless desert. Nothing realy matters.
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No sources, on board. You can try www.bugdryers.net though for sources. Lots of places in Europe ship benzos worldwide, check out forums.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: fapjack]
#7744464 - 12/11/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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fuck medication.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: fapjack]
#7744471 - 12/11/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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fapjack said: No sources, on board. You can try www.bugdryers.net though for sources. Lots of places in Europe ship benzos worldwide, check out forums.
LOL, bugdryers?
don't you mean drugbuyers?
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pharmacueticals seem okay if taken 6.9x the recommended dosage one mans medicine ...
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: fapjack]
#7744723 - 12/11/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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bugdryers!?
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: desufnoC]
#7744741 - 12/11/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hi there,
Sorry to hear about your anxiety. I have a little myself, and I've helped treat a lot of people.
The best known, researched, and agreed upon treatment for social anxiety or anxiety of any type really is called exposure - not medicine. Often times people find medicine helpful to start with, but it really never "fixes" the problem - only makes it worse in the long-term.
I can't describe it in as much detail as is warranted, but there is bountiful information online. It is best done with the help of a counselor/therapist/really smart friend, but it is possible alone.
In short, it involves working througha heirarchy of social situations that make you anxious. Start with the least anxiety provoking situation, and confront it head on (expose yourself - expose). Do not avoid, but seek the anxiety and manage it with breathing and self-talk. Do not avoid the anxiety, but alternatively, seek it. Eventually, without avoidance your body will habituate to the anxiety, and you will feel very little. It may take several attempts, but anything worth doing, is worth doing well.
Do your own research. Seek a counselor at a local college (often free or minimal costs) and start doing exposures. PM me with any questions.
Also, remember, it is just anxiety. It is not deadly, just uncomfortable. Just as a thought is just a thought, anxiety is just a feeling, a passing motion. Think of it is a joy to experience.
I wish you the best, and know that you are not alone.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: desufnoC]
#7744743 - 12/11/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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MDMA Cigarettes Alchohol
All will help in social situations, unfortunately none of these are very good for you. 
Weed is bad for social anxiety. I find mushrooms don't help me. Fuck prescriptions. Find a chatty-as-fuck buddy to kick around with and let him do all the ice-breaking and talking while you just nod and grin like a dumbass, that's what I do.
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Also, if your smoking da cheeba...take a break. Cannabis is highly associated with anxiety, especially of the social variety.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: beneath]
#7744748 - 12/11/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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beneath said: bugdryers!?
yea, I think his post definitely proves that drugbuyers.net is a reliable source
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Quote:
AroundtheSon said: Hi there,
Sorry to hear about your anxiety. I have a little myself, and I've helped treat a lot of people.
The best known, researched, and agreed upon treatment for social anxiety or anxiety of any type really is called exposure - not medicine. Often times people find medicine helpful to start with, but it really never "fixes" the problem - only makes it worse in the long-term.
I can't describe it in as much detail as is warranted, but there is bountiful information online. It is best done with the help of a counselor/therapist/really smart friend, but it is possible alone.
In short, it involves working througha heirarchy of social situations that make you anxious. Start with the least anxiety provoking situation, and confront it head on (expose yourself - expose). Do not avoid, but seek the anxiety and manage it with breathing and self-talk. Do not avoid the anxiety, but alternatively, seek it. Eventually, without avoidance your body will habituate to the anxiety, and you will feel very little. It may take several attempts, but anything worth doing, is worth doing well.
Do your own research. Seek a counselor at a local college (often free or minimal costs) and start doing exposures. PM me with any questions.
Also, remember, it is just anxiety. It is not deadly, just uncomfortable. Just as a thought is just a thought, anxiety is just a feeling, a passing motion. Think of it is a joy to experience.
I wish you the best, and know that you are not alone.
what he said
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: sam420]
#7744856 - 12/11/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you clicked the link you would see that its not drugbuyers. Drugbuyers is shit, full of fucking newbies that do nothing but destroy good sources. Drugbuyers also bans people for the dumbest shit, and the people on there somehow think they are above illict drug users. Drugbuyers is fail, though it still does have some good sources on it.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: fapjack]
#7745254 - 12/11/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have heard it is very helpful to not think of the anxiety before you are in a situation where you know it might happen, but of course many people cannot... so the advice is to not say to yourself "dont blush, stutter, etc" but instead say "i am going to blush and get nervous... im going to get nervous..." Eventually you can train yourself to fear it less and have it more "funny" and then fade out the anxiety.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: andrewss]
#7745309 - 12/11/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what helped my anxiety is I kept saying in my head "fuck everyone else and their opinions" and say what you want, do what you want, be who you are.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: sam420]
#7745480 - 12/11/07 03:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try CBT *cognitive behavioral therapy*. It can really help those with social anxiety disorders. And some people just grow out of it through life experiences, but dont fret mate, there definently is a solution.
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: primal21]
#7745711 - 12/11/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anxiety CAN be caused by medical conditions such as adrenal problems, or MVP (heart) problems.
However, most anxiety is probably conditioned. Stimulus response (S-R) conditioning.
The basis behind our Fear conditioning can be forgotten too. (amnesia)
We don't remember (verbally) every single thing that ever happened to use when we are young right back to infancy.
re: not remembering the conditioning stimuli For example, if we were barked at by a scary dog, or were bullied or saw/heard social distress in our caregivers [afraid or upset faces can trigger anxiety in a child too part of why family violence is so damaging], etc.
We just know that we have anxiety (which has been generalized to other settings/triggers) and that it probably was conditioned by a prior fear response.
Two things happen in anxiety: (a) the person is sensitized (conditioned) to have an anxiety reaction and (b) the person is overgeneralizing their stimuli (triggers). For example, a backfiring car BANG will seem like a "gunshot".
All that old emotional content (the mud puddle) gets its contents stirred up when these old triggers get activated, too. (Emotional Associations; --> racing thoughts; physical activation (sweating; heart racing; sweats; paralysis feelings; choking throat; breathing/chest tightness)
We get sort of "transported back there" again ("bottom up hijacking".) We get emotionally kidnapped back into a previous terrifying time w/o realizing why/what is happening. The stress is in the bodily symptoms [mentioned above], idea.
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shroomgatherer said: Ask your doctor about benzodiazapines - they are a whole family of anti anxiety drugs that do work. Explain to your doctor specific everday situations (like you did above) when you get anxiety...I am precribed klonopin and xanax (both benzo's) and they work great. The xanax pill (that I am prescribed)disolves on your tongue in an instant and works immediately. Good luck.
If you ask about something specific like that they could think your a druggie, it's really not the same as asking about sleeping pills
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Re: anxiety??? [Re: fapjack]
#7745920 - 12/11/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I used to have this problem really bad, to the extent of being so nervous to go to school that I would make myself sick. I'd say the first thing that helped me was actually being introduced to cannabis and various psychedelic drugs. Not that when I would take the drugs everything would be better, but after experiencing a different frame of mind and seeing how useless worrying over how people view you is. I realized I just needed to be myself and enjoy this reality that I'm living in. Also getting a job really helps with anxiety when your forced to communicate with people all day. it might not be comfortable at first but it definitely helps your social skills in the long run. I'd still call myself a reserved person. I'm comfortable with the fact that I like to be alone sometimes rather than around other people, but of course its always fun to hang out with friends.
If you want to overcome your anxiety I'd recommend sitting down and looking at who you are and what you want out of life, whether it be with the help of a psychedelic drug or not. I really wouldn't recommend meds, as they can mess you up even more in the long run.
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CokedUpHobit64 said: I really wouldn't recommend meds, as they can mess you up even more in the long run.
That can be very true which is why you should only take them as your suppose to. If you start using them to get fucked up and abuse them by combining them with alcohol you may find yourself doing it on a regular basis and because you have a prescription for it there would be no end to your abuse till shit hits the fan. But if your anxiety gets so severe it might not be a bad idea to get some and use them for social situations only if you are at home alone you could just deal with it unless you really truly need it to help you sleep or keep from vomiting and loosing weight from not being able to keep your food down.
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Benzos aren't a good idea to take unless you really need to, even if you do have a problem with anxiety. Everyone has a problem with anxiety to some extent, its all about how hard your life is made by it. Sometimes I wish I was still taking benzos, but I can manage just fine without them. Personally I could give a shit less what anyone does to their body, but benzos impair you big time, or at least impaired me (though I was on methadone at the time).
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CokedUpHobit64 said: I really wouldn't recommend meds, as they can mess you up even more in the long run.
That can be very true which is why you should only take them as your suppose to. If you start using them to get fucked up and abuse them by combining them with alcohol you may find yourself doing it on a regular basis and because you have a prescription for it there would be no end to your abuse till shit hits the fan. But if your anxiety gets so severe it might not be a bad idea to get some and use them for social situations only if you are at home alone you could just deal with it unless you really truly need it to help you sleep or keep from vomiting and loosing weight from not being able to keep your food down.
I agree. If a situation gets too severe and you feel its totally out of your control, meds might be a good option.
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thanks for all the input, i honestly didn't think i would get this much feedback. as for the benzos, it would be nice to have a script here and there but it would end up going too far. besides, i don't have a doctor. i think i will just have to grow out of it or get over it. i think its just my insecurities getting in the way.
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