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LED Lighting?
    #7743994 - 12/11/07 07:37 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Does LED lighting work for initiating the growth of psilocybe cubensis mushrooms?

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: NlightNd1]
    #7744022 - 12/11/07 07:50 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the only light besides the sun that i have heard dose anything is black light because it emits uv rays it is said to make it more likely your shrooms will be mutants.


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: grod31]
    #7744054 - 12/11/07 07:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Depends on the temperature of the light of the leds


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: Nibin]
    #7744072 - 12/11/07 08:04 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Leds dont get hot enough to matter,
lights arent big enough of a deal to debate.

some people use timers, some use uv, led, candlelight
and campfires... maybe even the beams from the moon broken down
with a prism to give you pure purple light... idk..
i personal dont worry about lights.


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: NlightNd1]
    #7744093 - 12/11/07 08:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Does LED lighting work for initiating the growth of psilocybe cubensis mushrooms?




Yes, many people have used LEDs in the blue or white spectrums and gotten decent results.

If you're going to use LEDs, you'll want to use MANY of the brightest variety you can find.

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: seg_x]
    #7744103 - 12/11/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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seg_x said:
Leds dont get hot enough to matter,
lights arent big enough of a deal to debate.

some people use timers, some use uv, led, candlelight
and campfires... maybe even the beams from the moon broken down
with a prism to give you pure purple light... idk..
i personal dont worry about lights.




Not the temperature of the actual bulb the temperature of the light, 6000-6500k range is the ideal.


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: NlightNd1]
    #7744111 - 12/11/07 08:14 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i have seen them grow in the dark with only minutes of very pale and indirect sunlight a day (opening the cabinet door to check them). used to see it all the time. imo it would be a waste money


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: CrazyEarl]
    #7744128 - 12/11/07 08:26 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

rofl, i was being sarcastic


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: seg_x]
    #7744196 - 12/11/07 08:56 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I'll disagree that lighting doesn't matter.

A decently bright light source that runs 12/12 will give a good pinset. They WILL fruit with no light, but that doesn't mean light is not important for the best possible yields.

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7744304 - 12/11/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

You can't argue that light makes a big difference with growers that are happy with crappy pinsets. However, if you want the best pinset and growth you can get, then use bright light with a color temperature of 5,000 Kelvin to 7500 Kelvin.

Of course, there's other parameters that are just as important, if not more important than light. Failure to pay attention to ALL the pinning triggers is like trying to win the Indy 500 with a clogged up air filter or dirty spark plugs.
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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7744346 - 12/11/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Failure to pay attention to ALL the pinning triggers is like trying to win the Indy 500 with a clogged up air filter or dirty spark plugs.
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Your analogies kill me. :lol:


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: Premedman1]
    #7747278 - 12/11/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have one of these guys: http://www.smarthome.com/97314T.html

And even though it's got the most LEDs I've seen in one unit, it's not very bright. I know, I know, the mushies don't absorb energy from the light, but I mean this light is so dim compared to even a 10 Watt CFL that I decided to just a get an 18 inch flourescent glow light from Walmart for like $10 or $20.

One of these days I'll compare the LED to the flourescent and post the results. But unless you have a couple of those LED bulbs, I'm not sure they give off enough lumens to be very effective.

edit: however the color output is nice, maybe ~6.5K


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: BuddhaTree]
    #7747296 - 12/11/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well i guess thats why im a member on these forums to learn wat is out there to kno

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: seg_x]
    #7747306 - 12/11/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

actually i wanna kno more about this now,

wat exactly do u mean by

'use bright light with a color temperature of 5,000 Kelvin to 7500 Kelvin'

in a simple mans words.


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: seg_x]
    #7747337 - 12/11/07 10:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Kelvin = The color of light:



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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: BuddhaTree]
    #7747345 - 12/11/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

check for my homie pinnhead's thread about blue led lights for pinning. do a search for it in the cultivation forum


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #7748071 - 12/12/07 05:22 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

well like ive always said if its worth doing, do it right.
so im gonna research this more, i honestly didnt realize it was indeed a major pinning trigger, i musta overlooked it in past.

noted thou now.


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: seg_x]
    #7748709 - 12/12/07 10:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone know the cheapest way to get from AC to DC? I was thinking the cheapest would be to just buy one of those AC/DC converters at Radioshack? Any better solutions? I want to stay away from battery power.

EDIT: How many of these do you think would be sufficient? The angle is 30* and the brightness is 1900 - 5500 millicandelas.

I figure I can configure them series of 3 off of a 12V power supply and only waste ~50mW for every 3 added.


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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: NlightNd1]
    #7748805 - 12/12/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Just sort of an inquery, because right now I'm just using indirect sunlight, but as I was reading this thread, I looked down and realized my computers had pretty bright blue LEDs on them.
Do you guys think these would be strong enough?



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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: Veter]
    #7749191 - 12/12/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Currently, LED's with enough intensity to work well are many times the price of fluorescent. In additon, you don't want blue light, LED or otherwise. You want high frequency light, which is sometimes referred to as 'blue', but the light still looks white.

Search the terms 'color temperature' 'Kelvin' 'fluorescent' using my username. I've typed this answer out many times, so it's all there in detail.
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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: rickpsfuckyou]
    #7749604 - 12/12/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

idk where the thread is but i found a pic

one pic from a whole martha that i helped pinhead set up
im pretty sure the lights were for a car underglow lol
all set up and with the lights on i thought it was one of the coolest fc's ive ever seen









nvm heres all our pics and finds with using leds http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6390562#6390562

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: D4NK]
    #7750558 - 12/12/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone know the cheapest way to get from AC to DC? I was thinking the cheapest would be to just buy one of those AC/DC converters at Radioshack? Any better solutions? I want to stay away from battery power.





I have used old computer power supplies to run fans and stirring devices. I believe thats what you want.

http://www.pricewatch.com/power_supply_for_case/

even thou Ive recently realized the importance of lights,
Im gonna avoid LEDs. Like RR said they are to expensive atm.
so Im not sure if you still wanna go that path.

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: seg_x]
    #7750867 - 12/12/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Wall warts are the least expensive solution... Radio Shack overcharges for them, though.  It might be worth ordering one online from Digi-Key, Jameco or Mouser (might even try eBay.)

If all you need is to go from 120V AC to ~160V DC, you can get a bridge rectifier and convert it straight to DC, but chances are you'll want to step down the voltage first. :biggrin:

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7750897 - 12/12/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Buddha, those 18 inch grow lights are only like 3700k, i looked into it cuz i had some from a while ago

a proper 6500k compact flourescent cost me 8 bucks for 2 of em at mall-wart

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Re: LED Lighting? [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7751018 - 12/12/07 07:41 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Wall warts are the least expensive solution... Radio Shack overcharges for them, though.  It might be worth ordering one online from Digi-Key, Jameco or Mouser (might even try eBay.)

If all you need is to go from 120V AC to ~160V DC, you can get a bridge rectifier and convert it straight to DC, but chances are you'll want to step down the voltage first. :biggrin:




You could always series like 75-80 2V LEDs w/ that voltage...  Not that I would try such a thing :grin:

Awesome idea seg_x, that completely went under the radar for some reason.  I actually have an extra power supply on hand.  :thumbup:


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