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Apollyphelion's Geodesic Theory of Thought Expanded on by AlCapwn
    #7743297 - 12/10/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Here's my take on the geodesic dome theory of thought (Briefly touched on and conceived by shroomerite Apollyphelion in this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7739119/an/0/page/1), expanding on his original idea. This is how I picture my mind:


We start by having our basic dome. The dome could be all the information and knowledge tied to basic cognitive and perceptive senses. These aren't actual ideas, they're what structure your mind into something tangible to contain your ideas and apply them to the real world. Without it, you could still have ideas, but they'd be independent association with your environment. Things like the understanding of color, remembering how to think. Things everyone, even if only subconsciously, need to know to function properly on a mental level. Basically a blank canvas, but without the canvas you'd just have floating paint. My failure at drawing a reasonable geodome also made me realize another interesting fact. Nobody has identical canvases, similar but never identical.

Every line represents one unit of information. The color of a certain object perhaps, or maybe the reason why you hate said object. There's no real defined size to a unit of information, except that you can think of it independently of other units. The geodome of thought is constructed of these units too.

Ideas and Concepts are a specific combination of units of information that work together. Take a tasty pizza, lets see what units it could be composed of. Cheese, crust, dough, sauce, food, taste, round, triangle, meat, scent, nutrition. These may not be all of them, but you get the idea. Now, all these ideas form a geometrical shape. And they shouldn't be just connected randomly. Only if two pieces of information are directly relevant to each other should be connected. You can connect them anywheres, but this would in turn give you a faulty understanding of the concept or notion. Connecting them right is the key to fully understanding things. If you actually take the time and try to figure out idea geometry, you'll promptly realize how absurd a machination the resultant shape is. However, you have to keep in mind that thoughts aren't manifest in the physical realm and therefore are not limited to the 3rd dimension. However, you can only perceive 3 dimensions so doing the math and drawing a concept's geometry would be like looking at an upper dimensional object in the 3rd dimension. Nonsensical. My representations would be much more relevant in said upper dimensions.

Now here's the kicker: you can't have two separate identical units of information. If you have the unit of information, lets say "fur" for example, any idea ever using fur in it's geometric structure must share the one fur unit. This may sound complicated, but this is what allows associative memory. This is what decides your train of thought. The train of thought could be represented by an actual train, thought units being it's rail. If thoughts and ideas weren't connected, you couldn't get to your desired destination. Creating a new idea is essentially discovering a new path. It's exploring your thoughts, and going "Oh hey, I can pass by this way" and linking two ideas that haven't been linked yet. In a sense, thinking is a mental form of exploring and discovery. And if you take into consideration the vast amount of ideas that share units, it's pretty easy to see why you can go from Angelina Jolie to 747's in a matter of seconds.

Now let's see what happens when you throw in psychedelics to the mix. Imagine if you had your thought dome physically in front of you. The units are flexible, maybe similar to pipe cleaners. You can go in there and attach, detach, bend, whatever... at random. Do that for a bit, then explore your thoughts. Links are missing, some units and ideas extend outside of consensus reality. When you think outside the box, you are in fact literally thinking outside the box (Or, in this case, dome). The reason we learn so much from psychedelics is that, amidst all the chaos, your train is forced to take unconventional and elaborate routes that are constantly changing, rearranging. You can't backtrack, you can only go forward. In doing this, you discover many new paths you otherwise wouldn't bother exploring because you have your habitual paths that are easier to take. Sometimes, if you're tripping hard enough, your thoughts are so detached that your train finds itself on a track detached from the rest of your thoughts. This could explain thought loops, going around in circles because there's no way out of your detached thought. Maybe there's a way out, you just haven't found it yet. Finding a new link to get out would have made you learn and understand things, creating a new link. When you're done tripping, your dome attempts to return to it's original shape, but you keep the new link's you've made while discarding the nonsensical ones and attributing it to "merely tripping balls". This is a giant activity in chance, akin to buying a shit ton of lottery tickets. The more you know, the more likely you are to discover something new. This is why knowledge is important for trippers, and why people who have less cards to play with so to speak, tend to just get fucked up and see colors. We are literally exploring our minds in hopes to find treasure.

What we can conclude from this:
-"Packing for the trip" indeed makes a lot of sense, and would be beneficial. It would define the departure point, and you could choose which area of thought you want to explore.
-Taking a psychedelic drug is akin to dismantling something and trying to re-arrange it for the sake of understanding things completely.
-I'm completely batshit insane.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post, any input and opinions would be appreciated as it helps me find new paths for my train of thought to pass by.


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Edited by AlCapwn (12/10/07 11:31 PM)


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Re: Apollyphelion's Geodesic Theory of Thought Expanded on by AlCapwn [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7743347 - 12/10/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Apollyphelion's Geodesic Theory of Thought Expanded on by AlCapwn [Re: Coaster]
    #7743773 - 12/11/07 03:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Beautiful!! Ab-so-fucking-lutely awesome! I believe everything Al Cpwn said would work; with the right mind applying the information, of course.

Unless there is such thing as a two sided triangle, or something I might've missed about shapes when I was a kid, the Triangle is the most efficient shape possible that I can prove exists.

Furthermore, I feel this is a good, objectifiable way to talk about the mind because if you notice Al Cpwn's drawing's he intentionally (or unintentionally) created fractals. In the Brainstorming/Psychedelic pictoral representation composed of intersecting/converging/organized triangles, you can notice squares, trapezoids, rectangles; if you were to isolate and observe particular triangle intersections, you would see rough circles: After all, at molecular level circles aren't REALLY round. Roud-ish. And of course, there are way more thoughts in our heads than Music, Fun, and Pizza.
WAAAAAY more.

Connect the dots, make some triangles, put together to build a dome, then hot box it and get ideas. Also, since the Dome is quantum in nature, there is a infinitely expanding circumfrence of the dome, that CAN be measured indefinatley at anytime. It has to do with my "Mental Rocketship" theory; Did you all know everyone is in a rocketship?


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