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Stealth grow idea what do u think?
#7742842 - 12/10/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey guys, lemme start of by saying Shroomery.com is my new favorite website and its just a great community.
Ok, so Ive decided to grow my own mushrooms and i would like to do it secretively. I have emptied out an old broken sub woofer which is about 14" by 14" by 18" (LxWxH). I am planning on doing a small, but constant grow to supplement myself. I am planning on doing four 1/2 pint jars at a time. I will sterilize my bathroom with Lysol including the counter i will be using and many of the walls and whatnot. Then i will put the four in a rubermaid container. I am still looking for something to keep the heat around 80 degrees, but i haven't had much luck finding anything. I was considering wrapping the container in a small electric blanket and keeping that just below 80. For the fruiting chamber i have one of those ultrasonic foggers that makes the mist in the glass bowls. I was planning on using that to keep the humidity high in the fruiting chamber along with possibly a bubble wand to keep air exchange right. This would also be contained in a larger and taller rubermaid container, and for light i will use a small 15watt CFL on for about 1 hour per day. Any comments are much appreciated. Thnx.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7742852 - 12/10/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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well it can't be that new to you, you have had an account for 2 years 
My suggestion is that if you have to make a grow secretly, because of roomies or parents, it isn't worth the risk of getting caught.
Don't do it
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7742853 - 12/10/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think that it sounds like a decent stealth. Still living with the rents?
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: ewikk055]
#7742891 - 12/10/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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well the guy i live with is pretty cool, we are always smoking pot together, but Ive asked him about shrooms before and he has just said he doesn't wanna be involved. I know it wouldn't be a problem if he found out, but id rather keep it secret. On top of that in case the landlord comes around its outta sight!
Oh and yea i have had an account here for a while, but i have only just started using it really regularly. After overgrow got shut down i stopped hanging out in forums much, but Ive just started getting back into it in the last couple weeks browsing all the community here.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7742924 - 12/10/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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good call.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7742936 - 12/10/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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have you got a closet?
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7742948 - 12/10/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yea, but no outlets in there...
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7742960 - 12/10/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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what for? don't need em
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7742971 - 12/10/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i was gonna have an ultrasonic fogger, CFL for fruiting, and im still debating on a bubble wand
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7743020 - 12/10/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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so u also want automated.
Because a shotgun terrarium will do fine
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7743024 - 12/10/07 10:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dont know what a cfl or bubble wand is, but my mushies rarely get light and they do fine.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7743126 - 12/10/07 10:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't use an ultrasonic. Unless you have it set on a timer to come on every few hours, it will likely create too much humidity and cause water to pool up on the bottom of your FC. If you want an easy stealth grow that you can hide in a hurry, I'd go with a mono or double tub setup. Spawn your jars to coir or h/poo in a monotub and you'll have a good amount of shrooms with very little effort or maintenance.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: PoisonedV]
#7743164 - 12/10/07 10:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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all tucked away in a lockable closet.. fully automated.. i now have a portable space heater in there as well now.. just run a heavy gauge extension cord into the closet.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Her0]
#7743255 - 12/10/07 11:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Search mono-tub. Sometimes small bulk is easier to hide then all those foggers, misters, wands, timers, lights, heaters etc.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7743856 - 12/11/07 05:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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imo best fungi for stealth growing would be a sclerotia producing variety (atlantis for example)
requires no fruiting chamber unless you want to take spores for future work but 1 spore syringe can last a very long time when u clone or make large lcs.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Her0]
#7743870 - 12/11/07 05:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Her0 said:
 just run a heavy gauge extension cord into the closet.
...and like a sneaky ninja, I'd follow the extension cord.;)
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: CubeGod666]
#7743872 - 12/11/07 05:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Depending on how much yield you want, try several invitro spawnbags. Set and forget, easy to hide, and so aesthetically confusing that anybody who sees it is going to assume a science experiment [esp. if you leave visible 'sciencey' notes next to them] rather than a drug cartel.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: ozzyozzyozzy]
#7743882 - 12/11/07 06:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes invitro. Always stealth. 4 i/2 pint jars can produce 2 trips and that space you got can hold more than that. Good Luck
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: KaptKid]
#7745803 - 12/11/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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IME 4 1/2 pint jars produce much more than two trips.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: ewikk055]
#7745813 - 12/11/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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he did say fruited in vitro.
But even so it should be more than two trips.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7745824 - 12/11/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, thats what I was getting at.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: ewikk055]
#7745842 - 12/11/07 04:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ewikk055 said: yeah, thats what I was getting at.
What were your yields last time you did an invitro grow?
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7745984 - 12/11/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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who the fuck in their right mind would try and fruit a 1/2 pint jar invitro?
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: CubeGod666]
#7746038 - 12/11/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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talking to me nibin?
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: CubeGod666]
#7746057 - 12/11/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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In vitro pf cakes are the only invitro that doesn't harm yields as dramatically. 3-5 dry grams per invitro flush is common, which is close to what most peoples cakes produce per flush.
Yes, ewin, was talking to you, or anyone else who has grown invitro. What are your yields?
Just so the OP can see if it is enough for him.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7746070 - 12/11/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah its nice when you end up getting 7 or 8 dry grams per flush though.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7746077 - 12/11/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not to thread jack, but is having your set-up in the same room, that you smoke cigarettes in a bad thing Nibin?
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: ewikk055]
#7746082 - 12/11/07 05:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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(not invitro though) just the usual dunk and roll.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: CubeGod666]
#7746116 - 12/11/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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CubeGod666 said: Not to thread jack, but is having your set-up in the same room, that you smoke cigarettes in a bad thing Nibin?
I even smoke when mucking about with my cakes in the FC and occasionally accidentally drop ash off my ciggies onto them and blow it off (I don't do it around casings though, for some reason). But I'm a dirty fucker around cakes, they never seem to contaminate.
But don't do what I do.
Even so, I really doubt that smoking in the same room as your setup is going to be a problem, especially if the room is ventilated. Don't use your FC as an ashtray or blow smoke directly onto the substrate, but apart from that I'm pretty sure you'll be fine.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7746417 - 12/11/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd say a monotub would definitely be substantially more covert than all the electronic gizmos.
not to mention they are HELLA easy by comparison, and IMO acheive better results.
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But they are more complicated than cakes for a first grow.
Cakes + shotgun terrarium are pretty low key.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7746490 - 12/11/07 06:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think spawning to a bulk sub in a mono tub is exactly rocket science given all of the detailed teks posted here. But I guess if there's a will, there's always a way that some people can and will fuck it up!
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: FooMan]
#7746504 - 12/11/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: FooMan]
#7746612 - 12/11/07 07:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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FooManShroom said: I don't think spawning to a bulk sub in a mono tub is exactly rocket science given all of the detailed teks posted here. But I guess if there's a will, there's always a way that some people can and will fuck it up!
It's not the spawning where people fuck up, it's making the spawn.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: Nibin]
#7747402 - 12/11/07 10:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I love to read and look at pictures about stealth growing. One of my favorites is a speaker as an incubator.
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well thanks for all the input guys. I think I will be going with a mono tub after checking that out. I hadn't checked this thread in about a week and I was very pleased with all the help. Thnx and peace!
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: spencevail]
#7768896 - 12/17/07 10:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I recently turned an old pc into an incubator by running all the wires under a the crappy motherboard thus leaving room for (6) 1 pint jars. And keeps them at a constant 84 degrees.That was after I played with Fan settings and I did add a few filters on the fans also.Not really sure if it will be all that amazing as I can see a few problems I might have with it, but i will find out soon enough. The old pc had two options trash or incubator, thats the only reason I made it.
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Re: Stealth grow idea what do u think? [Re: DontPlay]
#7769123 - 12/17/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah man good choice.
what's less conspicuous then a monotub? If you want to hide it just stick it in your closet and throw some crap on top of it. Clothes, empty card board boxes, other monotubs, just whatever man get creative with the stuff you stock on it. It'll look like all the other closet crap most people have in their closets.
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