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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
    #7744812 - 12/11/07 12:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

and holy shit adderall makes me type long fucking posts. i apologize.


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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: badchad]
    #7744822 - 12/11/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What do you mean by technicians?

People go to technical school to learn how to technicians.

Being a "technician" means that you can work a piece of equipment and collect data, but you are unable to use that data for any kind of analysis.

The only "technicians" here are the janitors.

And there are alot of places paying geologists alot of money.

You may have heard of some of them...

http://www.riotinto.com/
http://www.halliburton.com/
http://www.debeers.com/
http://www.bp.com


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If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7744842 - 12/11/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Many people in my major elect not to do science/grad school thing and work with only a bachelors. They make 40-60 starting, mostly in the semi-conductor industry. Not too bad in case grad school doesnt work out.


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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: DieCommie]
    #7744860 - 12/11/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, good money is there if you are reasonably intelligent.

And there is something to be said for entering the work-force right away and proving yourself on your merits, rather than an advanced degree. But in the end, its likely that you're going to have to get that advanced degree at some point.

I figured it was easier to do now, when I was comfortable at this university and was motivated to do it. Plus, I had a good job while I was in school, so I was not financially compelled to get out there and get money fast.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7744861 - 12/11/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

A "technician" is usually someone who performs a scientific protocol (e.g. they can follow instructions and do an experiment). If you go for your MS and work for an academic professor doing research, "technician" is the term for the people doing his/her work.

Industrial jobs will pay you more, but your mobility will be limited by only having a BS. no company will pay you much more than that when the Ph.D's start about 85k.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: badchad]
    #7744920 - 12/11/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

badchad said:
A "technician" is usually someone who performs a scientific protocol (e.g. they can follow instructions and do an experiment). If you go for your MS and work for an academic professor doing research, "technician" is the term for the people doing his/her work..




Must be an institutional thing.

There are alot of scientists here who would be pretty offended if you referred to them as technicians.


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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action.  If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it.  - Ernest Hemingway

If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it.  In the law courts, in business, in government.  There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent.    -Cormac MacCarthy

He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #7745236 - 12/11/07 02:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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YawningAnus said:
college is for people who want to be taught, rather than learn.




This all depends on your career field. College is also for people who want that stupid piece of paper that most employers will force you to have before they give you the time of day.

Take me, for example. Try being the nerdy kid interested in computers and I.T., whose programmed C since he was 8 years old on his own 486/SX 25MHz machine with 2MB RAM. Since then I've worked on pretty much every operating system and every modern programming or scripting language. I can run circles around most "I/T Administrators" I meet that have had 10+ years of experience working with major corporations. I currently have delved into designing my own embedded devices as a hobby.

Know what that any of this means without a degree?

JUST SHORT OF NOTHING. I just recently managed to get an I/T related job, after spending 6 years working for a shitty company in a job I loathed, and it's only by sheer luck that I managed to score this one. In order to get my foot in the door, I had to move 800 miles from where I was, and now I live in a place I would INSTANTLY move away from if I could find a similar paying job somewhere else.

I feel I'm more technically apt for learning these things because they're things I WANTED to learn, but to an prospective employer, all they see is "quitter" because I didn't go to college.


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Re: i don't think i like my degree/major.... [Re: Sillicybin]
    #7745339 - 12/11/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

fuck, that's pretty shit.


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