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Fresh or Dried?
    #7741391 - 12/10/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just wondering if anybody could tell me whether they found fresh mushrooms or dried mushrooms to be better? If dosage is any different... anything comparing the 2... thank you


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7741395 - 12/10/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

FRESH!!!! FTW

dosage is 10 times the dry dosage.

fresh is great, and electrifying.
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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: pong]
    #7741406 - 12/10/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, that seems like alot... cuz I was just gonna try some fresh ones but only have like 4 that are ready and smaller ones at that.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7741421 - 12/10/07 04:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

fresh is so much better. I find it to be a lot more mindful and emotional.

Whenever i take dry mushrooms, it really seems that a lot of the magic is gone. Fresh always seems to make me think about things more, with more thoughts and all that.

The older the mushrooms get, the dumber they make me feel. Thats just my experience though.

Back when i grew, i would make orange juice tea with the mushrooms but just putting them in the glass with orange juice and drinking them down.

Those were some of the best trips I've had. They made me intelligent, they made me think, and they were so emotionally charged with energy, it was impossible not to love every second of it.

Dry on the other hand, can be amazing as well. I've just found that it is either intense, and perfect, or a little bit lacking, and makes me feel stupid.

some dry mushrooms make my brain stop thinking essentially. Not in a meditative way, but in a 'I can't focus on a damn thing' way that kind of annoys me.

I find i need to dose pretty high on dry mushrooms to get what fresh ones offer. Though dosing high makes it more intense, it only equals what a lesser dose on fresh would have done.

And what he means by the dosage is 10x that of dry, is that they way 10x more than dry mushrooms. So if you wanted to dose 5 grams dry, you would take somewhere around 50 grams wet. Give or take a few grams as you wish of course.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7741437 - 12/10/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

so, more than likely do you think 4 mushrooms fresh between 2 people would do anything?


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7741439 - 12/10/07 04:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

mushrooms are mushrooms... you are not losing any magic by eating dry ones...If dried the right way, they will not lose potency. I have no problem eating them dry but they were disgusting when fresh


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7741460 - 12/10/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

depends how much the 4 mushrooms weigh.

I didn't mean to talk smack on dried mushrooms, and I just reread my post and that really is how it came out. Dried mushrooms are awesome as well, but i prefer the fresh ones. Fresh has more to offer I think.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7741479 - 12/10/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I dont have a scale so I dunno what they would weigh. not sure what I can do.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7741673 - 12/10/07 05:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

MAKE A SCALE!!!!

Force=Mass * gravity * distance from turning point

equalize force on both sides and you have your weight of the unknown.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7741734 - 12/10/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i never used a scale when i dosed my fresh mushrooms. I just eyeballed it and said to myself "this is how much i want to eat".

It never failed. But depending on the mushrooms you are looking at, you may want to share them with a friend. And if it isn't what you expected, and isn't intense enough for you, smoke a bowl or two. or three or four. or five.

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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7741956 - 12/10/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard some types of mushrooms lose potency with drying depending upon the ratio of active chemicals.

In my experience, eating fresh mushrooms is more pleasant because they aren't as chewy and the taste is better.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: scout24]
    #7742322 - 12/10/07 07:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

shrooms are just like pussy
when their wet it goes 4 a much smoother trip
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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Coaster]
    #7742344 - 12/10/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

and when it's dry you need to use lube? :confused:


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7742420 - 12/10/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Fresh has always given me the best visuals and the most meaningful trips... hands down.

"Electrifying" was a good way of putting it.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: SDP]
    #7742492 - 12/10/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Fresh = :awesome:


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Premedman1]
    #7742511 - 12/10/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

fresh is the shit...


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Mastamike1118]
    #7742638 - 12/10/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ID eat it straight off the groud without picking it


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: djcorus86]
    #7742758 - 12/10/07 09:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I vote for fresh...

When I eat fresh I just eyeball and eat as much as I like.

But when they're dried, I feel I have to weigh it for some reason.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: MOTH]
    #7742905 - 12/10/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I actually dont care either way.
Am I weird?

I have grown mushrooms and eaten plenty of dried from the same grow.

Same shit. Wet seems to be the same as dried as long as you chew them very well.

If you dont chew them well they might seem less potent than fresh shrooms but only due to slower absorbtion.

I like the taste of both.
I prefer dried only because I have no problem with the taste, and they dont have so much water weight. Water weight that makes you feel quite full if you eat enough.

I prefer dried shrooms because of the delayed response of the wet.
Sometimes a delayed response(slower absorbtion) seems better in its own weird way.

I dont care either way.
Both have the same potency.
Leaving wet shrooms on a plate for 20 hours+ does not make a noticeable difference.

Neither is better than the other.
Same thing, but more or less mass for your hole of a gut to sort through.

How you chew dried mushrooms matters, for example.

If you think chewing a mushroom into small pieces rather than mush is the same, then I just dont think you have thought about this absorbtion factor enough.

Same shit, but wet has a more gentile absorbtion factor, which people like more sometimes.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: yageman]
    #7745370 - 12/11/07 02:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I prefer fresh anyday


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: primal21]
    #7745471 - 12/11/07 03:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm. I seem to be against the grain on this one, but I prefer dry.
I really think it comes down to personal preference, so here's been my experience with the two.

Fresh:
Slower onset. I believe this is because there is more to digest and metabolize.
A feeling of flow: There seems to be a slower, more relaxed pace to the fresh experience. It may be linked to the onset. Your body may just be feeding you the psilocin at a slower rate, thus making it easier to adjust to.
- Visual spectrum increase. I have always noticed that blacks and whites just appear to be much more vivid with fresh. I remember a few times just staring at my computer speakers in awe at how dark black they appeared...like they were reflecting absolutely no light at all. It was a darker black than I had ever seen before.
- Visuals seems to be slower paced or more fluid. Things just seem more liquid-like. As if everything were made from pure water, rather than a goo.
- Clearness of mind: My thoughts tend to be slower-paced, but they tend to have more weight behind them. I feel far more insightful and calm.

Dry
-Quicker onset. The come up with dry gives me far more of that 'butterflies in my stomach' feeling. I tend to go from no visuals to full blown rather suddenly.
- Energy. I tend to get an experience closer to acid with dry. While I still feel like laying there, I am also more willing to go on a walk or begin a new experience with dry.
- As stated above, rather than 'watery visuals', things appear to be made of a more viscous material. Also, rather than crisp colors, I tend to see vivid rainbows around nearly everything.

I see no real reason why fresh would be different from dry, but for whatever reason, there really feels like there is. I cannot scientifically account for this other than placebo and maybe the extra material in fresh.

Anyway, I'd be interested to see how others compare the experiences.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Veter]
    #7745817 - 12/11/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

fresh if you can dried if you cant


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7746179 - 12/11/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I prefer fresh as drying them is a pain in the ass without a food dehydrator. Also, you don't have to wait, and I personally think they don't taste as bad fresh. I have never noticed any difference in the trip, and will eat them either way.


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: danlennon3]
    #7747262 - 12/11/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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mushrooms are mushrooms... you are not losing any magic by eating dry ones...If dried the right way, they will not lose potency. I have no problem eating them dry but they were disgusting when fresh




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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: bagsofun]
    #7748130 - 12/12/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I always have more alive neon electric explosive visuals with fresh.

Fresh trips are always noticeably more spiritual for me

Freshies make it easier for me to OBE on mushrooms.

Fresh + Syrian Rue = Godhead, IMO

They take longer to come up, but just eat a little more to compensate (3g dry, 35-40g wet) and the quality of the trip is incredible! Blows my mind!

I've had some amazing dry trips too, but i typically have to up my dosage to 5-7+ grams to get where 40g-50g of fresh will take me.

I eat dry 95% of the time though. Fresh is for special treats.

Fresh Pan Cyans = Holy Grail!

About to try ethanol psilocybin extract, will see how it compares to fresh mushies. :smile:


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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: SDP]
    #7750354 - 12/12/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SDP said:
Fresh + Syrian Rue = Godhead, IMO




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Re: Fresh or Dried? [Re: sandman_130]
    #7750685 - 12/12/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm and here I thought that people preffered dry mushrooms more... I always thought I was "odd" for liking fresh ones better. I only have tripped three times (once fresh, other two dry) on mushrooms so I can't really base my feelings on a lot of experience, but the experience that I did have is supported by what most of you said. Here's how I view the two (I'm keeping science out of this):

Fresh:
More sympathetic, more intimate and close to me. It feels like the shrooms are about my age - they joke around with me and are sort of friends to me (aside from ofcourse being the teacher). All the profound realizations don't crush you - they come kindly with a humorous side to it. Mainly, for me, fresh is all about liquid love. Freshness is the beauty, fluidity and the vibrancy of eternal youth and love.

Dry:
1st time - Although the reasons for my "failure" in this trip are probably mine (I think I was too tired, burntout and rash about doign them that night) - nevertheless I still am holding the dry shrooms responsible for some of it. I started coming up, and wham - I became stupid. I couldn't talk anymore, but not because I went past language - but because I just fell through some little psychadellic crack and got stuck in a go-between station between here and there. I was unable to function at a normal level, but I was unable to transcend and pass on to higher forms. The most prevalent feeling I remember was this: I was pressed up against the barrier, the "bubble" that seals us off from "beyond" and I did not have enough force to penetrate it and break out. I spent 4 hours in a blank, dull state - uttering nonsense and thinking life has no point.

2nd time - This time I took a lesser dose (because I had no more : \ ) but the effects were profound. After dosing, I was sitting chatting to my friends on Skype when these "electro-sonic bursts of energy" started zapping my brain so hard my ears buzzed. I got off the computer, thinking it was technology that was interfering with my trip. However, as I lay in bed surrounded by darkness, the electro-therapy didn't cease. I continued getting zapped really hard. I thought back to my "fresh" shrooms experience - of how I talked to them and asked them to take away my fear and be nice to me. I tried communicating this time as well. I spoke aloud and asked to udnerstand why this is happening and is this some sort of punishment... No reply, the shroom spirit didn't give a shit. I ate the shrooms, and the master-magician was going to work the magic, he had no time for my petty worries... The electroshocks became more and more frequent until I felt like I was being tazered. Then, some switch inside me turned on, and I suddenly was in the "flow", navigating the electro-magnetic currents that pulse through our world. I put on some Basshunter on my mp3 and bathed in electric ecstacy for an hour or two - realizing how lucky I was, that the doors of perception were open to me... In short - the image of dried mushrooms that I perceived is as follows: Where the fresh ones are youthful, humorous and sympathetic, the dry ones are like old shamans: penetrating, powerful and formidable - they don't play games.

Allright, I've done my best to illucidate my experience with fresh and dry P. Cubensis (btw fresh ones were Hawaiian strain, dry ones I'm pretty sure Mexicana, but not 100%).

Hope this helps someone,
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