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mushroomplume
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Question About High Doses...
#7740708 - 12/10/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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of mushrooms.
I've never gone into the deep end, so I gotta question for the veterans here.
Is it possible to have hallucinations that you mistake as being real?
i.e. you think your electrical outlet is a key hole and you put a fork in trying to unlock the door
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: mushroomplume]
#7740768 - 12/10/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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In my experience with high doses with mushrooms, I usually get floored. I can't move. Mother nature is boot-kicking my nuts, and I'm liking it. You might see "entities" I call them low-level low-hit-dice monsters, but I try to keep with the lingo.
Worrying about sticking a fork in an electrical outlet should not even be thought of. Before and after. Would you do it sober? Do you think you are that kinda person. There are some things you have to ask yourself before going into a high-dose. Your mileage may vary, of course; some people down it and deal with it. I take my trips seriously, in my own way, and thus it reflects how I even approach my trips.
I would worry about the boot to your face.
EDIT: Damn! Mind any spelling mistakes I have made in this post and the previous ones: I've had a fever for 4 days! Sorry folks! :cue looney tune music:
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7740792 - 12/10/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha, of course I would never do that sober. On moderate doses of mushies, it's not uncommon for me to have thoughts that seem to be really profound and then only to find when I'm sober that it was the dumbest fucking idea in the world.
If I can believe in what I am thinking, I would like to know if it is possible to believe what I am seeing.
I've hallucinated before, but I still knew I was on drugs and was just able to enjoy them.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: mushroomplume]
#7740794 - 12/10/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think as the visuals get stronger the more of a blur they become and everything becomes close to being "one" ive never seen anything thats not there, the strongest visuals ive had were seeing everything vibrating like it was broken into energy molecues or somehting along those lines, but when your that far gone you wont be holding anything in your hands or any position to put something into an electrical outlet!
the other intense visuals ive had are everything looks like its melting in huge waves, apart from that CEV's are the only times i get intense visuals (like a kaleidescope.)
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7740798 - 12/10/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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You won't even understand whatever you're seeing. I did 5g once and layed around in a dark room... and well it knocked me hard, hah.
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Apollyphelion
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SmellyMushroom said: You won't even understand whatever you're seeing. I did 5g once and layed around in a dark room... and well it knocked me hard, hah.
Well maybe not at first...what does understanding even mean in this context?
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High doses just eliminate all round corners for me. Things become rigid, sharp, jagged, crooked (I have walked crooked to compensate). Everything is geometric. Like someone already stated, things just melt together and become intertwined.
I feel that the hallucinations are realistic to me because I physically respond to them, but I am still conscious of what is believable or absurd (i.e. imagining monsters, people, objects, etc.)
Its kind of like getting really dizzy. You know the room is not physically altered, but you respond to it consciously by compensating yourself. You are in control.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: Chronic7]
#7740921 - 12/10/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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my heavier lsd trips have been insane, highest dose being 5 hits of probably ~110 mic doses... and id say yes to your question. its difficult at that point to even think, as your thoughts become very scattered and fragmented. so one easily jumps to conclusions, and its those that really drive the visuals.
my last 5 hit experience ended up putting us in the middle of a long nature trail at night, a bad place to be if your not entirely comfortable. we started walking back and we were all peaking way to hard to be comfortable in an unfamiliar park. i remember feeling as though we were walking down this sandy path that had no begenning or end, a path that we were stuck on in some kind of limbo. doomed to walk in circles for eternity. finally we came across a bridge that i took as our first hint of sanity so i concluded that if we went back into the woods that we would be entering limbo and i would surly never be seen again, i then sat on the bridge for a while. eventually we called some friends that came through the woods to the bridge we were on.
I felt as though they were demons born from the woods in an attempt to get us to re-enter the woods and effectivly be lost forever in an endless trip. They eventually left with my other friends that were trippin unable to convince me to leave the bridge, i remained on the bridge for an hour or so more before begenning my walk back.
That was my first remotely bad trip, which i think was caused by the enormous joint we smoked before we began to peak. Although id probably say that that was also my best and most memorable... i learned alot that night and as a result have become able to handle much higher doses comfortably.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: habitat0789]
#7740992 - 12/10/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with most people here that with mushrooms you're not going to see anything that is physically not there. That is what I always wanted in the beginning and then I found that with acid. But mushrooms are something totally different. I agree with the oneness. It seems the harder I trip the less visuals I can actually see. It just ends up being one big blur. Once I start really high in the dosage range anything that comes to a corner comes to a point. It is like the whole world is made out of scissors, knives, and razors. The first time this happened it scared the shit out of me because I felt that if I moved at all I would get cut and die. If I were to go back to that first trip I would just move anyway with that resulting in my getting cut and dying, but then I would be reborn.
It seems now days I can handle some very large doses without them totally kicking my ass. I used to get grounded by the mushrooms and just lay on the floor the time. Now I can't sit still. I will sit in the living room with music for 5 minutes, then go outside for 10 minutes, head back in and down to the basement for a hookah session, then back outside. I just can't hold still at all. For me every mushroom dose is a high dose. My base dose is usually 7 g's. Anything less and it just doesn't cut it for me.
I have gone as far as 14 g's before and lets just say WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! The problem with high dose trips is you usually get ass kicked for the first hour and a half. When I trip I will take my dose smoke a jib and then I will be tripping. I usually start tripping within 5-15 minutes after dosing.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: kungpow]
#7741029 - 12/10/07 02:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i ate 16 grams 2 days in a row last year in amsterdam. i once was discussing this with a friend. he said the definition of enough is when you are completelly out of your body standing naked in the center of town. i was completely out of my body, for a while out of my mind, BUT, i could not be standing naked in the center of town because, as mentioned above, i cold not stand up. by the time i could stand up, i could tell the socket fronm the door.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7741052 - 12/10/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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indeed i have seen the entities you describe. i call them the elders of consciousness. as far as i can tell they sing a song of beauty so powerful as to penetrate and infuse all of creation. they are what many people call god.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7741245 - 12/10/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Apollyphelion said:
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SmellyMushroom said: You won't even understand whatever you're seeing. I did 5g once and layed around in a dark room... and well it knocked me hard, hah.
Well maybe not at first...what does understanding even mean in this context?
Not all the way into the trip. For me some bits of it have been very overhelming, and very confusing. This is what I meant. Sorry if it wasn't clear enough
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: mushroomplume]
#7741404 - 12/10/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes I have "broken through" from eating large dose of mushrooms. A person can eat a shit-ton of shrooms, but actually breaking through does not happen often/easy.
At first you can see psychedeic visuals that are so out of hand that they almost seem real. Also hearing things.. but once the trip finally kicks in full force you are unable to really move, unable to really speak, completely intoxicated, feeling almost "poisoned", and eventually leave your body to visit the spirit world. It is normally overwhelmingly-frightening, and quite uncomfortable.
As far as actual hallucinations go in this "spirit world", on high high dosages, they are more like an actual dream.. nothing happens like seeing a pink elephant wearing a top hat and handing out bannanas to purple elves, but more like an actual dream like when you are sleeping. The dreams are typically blissful paradise and also the worst most hellish nightmare you could ever possibly concieve (usually experiencing them both during the experience).
My break-throughs with mushrooms typically involve religious type stuff, meeting angels, hearing them play their music (which is the most beautiful sound ever, impossible for any living man to play), standing at the pearly gates, meeting lost-souls (in a creepy laberinth/maze), all the way down to meeting with the devil himself face to face. And I don't believe in any religions, but I do believe in the spirit-world.
It is beyond anything that could ever be described by any living man.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: GGreatOne234]
#7741576 - 12/10/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It just can't be described to those who never did such a dosage. Just do it, then you'll know.
Edited by SmellyMushroom (12/10/07 04:52 PM)
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: Apollyphelion]
#7741905 - 12/10/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Something I've noticed about the really high dose trips: on low to moderate doses, you might be really confused and fucked up, but that voice inside that is "you" still remains. Deep in your mind you still hold your identity.
Even short of Ego Death, on the high dose trips there is a real possibility that every nanometer of your brain will forget what reality is. It can become very difficult to talk yourself out of a thought loop because you are almost completely in the 'shroom world.' So 'handling your shit' is basically impossible and should not be attempted.
Personally, while many people like doing this alone, I find it much more enjoyable and bearable with a friend around to talk me down if I start to freak.
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Re: Question About High Doses... [Re: mushroomplume]
#7742084 - 12/10/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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if you ever think of 'going off the deep end', be prepared to go to hell and heaven.
in a sufficiently high dose, you aren't gonna know what the hell a wall socket is. in fact, i'd be surprised if you knew what was happening to you, whether you knew you were alive or dead, whether you knew you were human or spirit or anything about your identity -- the memories and knowledge that make you, YOU. this is what people refer to as 'ego death'.
be prepared for CEV and OEV to merge into one. be prepared to be overwhelmed for an indeterminant amount of time, and believe you are going to die; i mean Truly think you're gonna die. be prepared to not remember most of it.
after the hellish peak, you will slowly regain the wherewithal to understand what is happening--that you are under the influence and have just experienced something monumental, even if you don't ever understand what happened.
the last time i was here was a few years ago. i still don't think i'm ready to go back. proceed with caution.
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