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The Ron Paul BLIMP!
#7738875 - 12/09/07 11:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2007/12/07/ron_paul_supporters_to_launch_blimp_from_eastern_nc/
Ron Paul supporters to launch blimp from eastern NC
December 7, 2007
ELIZABETH CITY, N.C.—Supporters of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul want his campaign to take flight -- literally. more stories like this
A group of Paul backers plan to launch a 200-foot-long blimp bearing his name next week from Elizabeth City. The aerial billboard -- with "Who is Ron Paul? Google Ron Paul" on one side and "Ron Paul Revolution" on the other -- will float up the East Coast past major cities.
On the itinerary: A stop in Boston on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, where Paul supporters will re-enact the event by dumping tea from the blimp into the Boston harbor.
After that, the blimp is scheduled to spend a couple of weeks over New Hampshire before the first-in-the-nation primary set for Jan. 8. After the vote, according to a schedule posted on a Web site for the project, the blimp will "depart for Disney World."
Liberty Political Advertising, including company president and Paul supporter Trevor Lyman, is organizing the project. The zeppelin isn't officially affiliated with the Texas congressman's campaign.
A Web site dedicated to the blimp says the group has raised more than $200,000 as of Friday evening -- enough to keep the craft afloat for about two weeks.
Liberty said its structure as a for-profit company selling ads that clients can sponsor allows it to avoid limits on campaign contributions. The group is getting legal advice from Bradley Smith, the former director of the Federal Election Commission.
Paul, a former Libertarian who stands apart from the other GOP presidential contenders by opposing the Iraq war, has low poll numbers but soaring support among anti-government voters on the Internet.
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: tak]
#7741251 - 12/10/07 03:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i cant help but to think 200k+ would be better spent on things other than a blimp.... but who am I?
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: kotik]
#7741304 - 12/10/07 03:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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well when you figure that money spent on the blimp will pale in comparison to the millions of dollars worth of free publicity the blimp will attract. goto ronpaulblimp.com and check out the flight plan! they plan on flying up the east coast to all the major cities, on dec 16 the annv of the boston tea party and the next ron paul money bomb they are going to dump tea into the harbor. then they will move on the new hampshire and fly over the primaries for 2 weeks. compare the cost of all that advertising to the cost of tv ads etc then its well worth it. !
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i just have a hard time understanding how someone seeing "Ron Paul 2008" will make an impact. It may make his name more familiar, but that's about it.
Then again, I was never one to be influenced by billboards and magazine ads as much. Maybe I just don't understand because I'm from the digital age...
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how are they going to dump 'tea' in to boston harbor?
that's just a joke, right?
or are we all going to put on war paint and charge from the local masonic lodge to tip barrels into the bay?
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: afoaf]
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well one side says "who is ron paul?" "google ron paul" the intent i guess is to bypass the major media outlets who are refusing to recognize the legitimacy of dr. paul's campaign and force them to. how do you not report on a giant blimp going up and down the east coast. the fact it was independently financed and the whole idea in general is brand new and makes history so they have to report. they figure if people just hear his message and view his integrity they will vote for him for sure.
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: afoaf]
#7741778 - 12/10/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I thought we were throwing Giuliani into the harbor
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: johnm214]
#7741780 - 12/10/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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and yes they really do intend on dumping tea from the blimp into the harbor
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I think it's an excellent idea to advertise to have people discover Paul over the net. They will get not only his phenomenal patriotic platform, but also why major media is not covering him, and is trying to delegitimatize his campaign.
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isn't this at least littering or, worse, an assault on the environment in the name of political campaigning?
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: afoaf]
#7742370 - 12/10/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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bugabuga420 said: and yes they really do intend on dumping tea from the blimp into the harbor
isn't this at least littering or, worse, an assault on the environment in the name of political campaigning?
Yeah, leaves falling into water is littering, and is as abhorrent as you causing global warming by exhaling CO2.
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The discussion about the tea bags being dumped into Boston Harbor is irrelevant, as they won't be dumping tea bags from Boston Harbor. There is to be a symbolic gesture of tossing a few tea leaves from the blimp. Personally, I'm not sure if you can just open a window on a blimp or what.
I understand that some tea might be dumped into the harbor from people on the ground, but what do you expect from a bunch of landlubbers.
Someone stated that they were certain the money could have been spent on better things. Its true that the blimp is whimsical, I was saying as much when it was a new idea (now its being launched ), but the important point is that it will be highly effective as well.
$200,000 might seem like a lot of money that could have been better spent, but $200,000 is nothing when compared to the amount that the grass-roots effort is spending in all of its other endeavors. The official campaign probably receives a minimum of $100,000 every day. Some days it is $4.3 million.
The yield from that investment is going to be priceless. There won't be any way to calculate the amount of support translated back into funds, and votes. 
Once it became clear that the blimp would be watched, every major media outlet was covering it. Not only that, but the articles read like an advertisement for Ron Paul. ABC News even linked with teaparty07.com, where you can pledge for the Boston Tea Party moneybomb.
When it is up in the air, it will be an unprecedented phenomenon in American politics. The media will love to cover it, because when do you get the opportunity to ride a blimp? Expenses paid if they write a story.
I mean, certainly, the simple fact that people will see the blimp above them will have an effect too, and this is the one that has been questioned in this thread. Well, once the blimp starts flying over major events, as the lawyers are looking into Times Square for New Years, for example (Fujifilm flew over New York City for quite some time after 9/11, so there is precedent regarding the fly zone laws), it will be very effective. As New Hampshire gets ready to vote in the last weeks before their strategic primary, there will be a Ron Paul blimp giving them its undivided attention, a state that has conditions already very favorable to Ron Paul.
The blimp will be a media sensation. When it will be coupled with the amazing haul in official donations on 12/16, with the blimp overseeing it from the Boston Tea Party, Ron Paul's campaign will launch into top-tier status. He's hovering just underneath that right now, with some measures placing him in the top three in certain early states. The last I had read, he was sitting two or three points behind John McCain and Fred Thompson. This is in telephone polls that stack the deck agansit a candidate like Ron Paul, ineffective tools that cannot gain an accurate representation of the actual support out there. The fact that Huckabee unexpectedly surged into the top-tier is evidence enough that the race is very fluid. Ron Paul has so many advantages over any other candidate, and he's been building up a solid, rising foundation to launch him, whereas Huckabee is standing aboard a record that clearly contradicts his word, the fact that he has no real grass-roots organization, not much money, and some controversies. He might be getting more money and support now, but it won't be rooted and it will fade as Ron Paul soars.
Ron Paul is the only candidate that can win the Republican nomination. This is being realized, more and more, by more and more people. You can't look at yesterday's finality to judge tomorrow's actuality. Everything exists in a constant state of change. That isn't to say, however, that you can't observe what is happening and notice trends. Anyone who looks will know. Unless something unexpected happens, like an assasination or some kind of huge crisis, we know what to expect.
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Come on now.
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: Minstrel]
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I guess I was being too literal and envisioned barrels of tea going into the harbor.
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actually, it isn't real tea thats gonna be dumped into the harbor. It's gonna be boxes with words like "income tax", "Federal Reserve","Patriot Act", "NAFTA", "Iraq War" ect, ect. It's a symbol of dumping these unconstitutional acts into the Boston harbor.
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> I thought we were throwing Giuliani into the harbor
Nah, you're thinking of Hillary... gotta see if she floats or sinks...
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Just wait and see.
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: johnm214]
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Best idea I've heard yet
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Nah, you're thinking of Hillary... gotta see if she floats or sinks..
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: SoY]
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Nah, you're thinking of Hillary... gotta see if she floats or sinks..
[cue british accent] So if she floats, then that means she's made of wood, 'cause wood floats, and wood burns, and so do witches, so if she floats she is a WITCH!!!![/monty python sketch]
Epic win.
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Just wait and see.
I didn't say he couldn't win it. But your statement was overly ridiculous. "Ron paul is the only candidate that can win the Republican nomination." That doesn't make any sense.
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"Ron paul is the only candidate that can win the Republican nomination."
Maybe a better statement would be that Ron Paul is the only republican that can win the general election.
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Just wait and see.
I didn't say he couldn't win it. But your statement was overly ridiculous. "Ron paul is the only candidate that can win the Republican nomination." That doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, thats pretty much what he's been doing for months. He'll guarantee a Ron Paul win, but when you call him on it, he'll say he's not making any guarantees.
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OneLessForeskin said: I didn't say he couldn't win it. But your statement was overly ridiculous. "Ron paul is the only candidate that can win the Republican nomination." That doesn't make any sense.
Why doesn't it? No other candidate can win agansit either Hillary Clinton or Obama. The second most likely scenario is that the vote will be split and the decision will be made in a smoke-filled room. The most likely scenario, observing what is actually occuring, is that Ron Paul builds his support more and more solidly and wins the nomination.
Most people that do not think Ron Paul has a chance don't really see what is happening because they only know what the mainstream media is showing them. It doesn't really convey anything about what is actually happening, most of it is opinions of theirs being tossed around with polls that do not represent actual support. These people say that "well, most people only watch the mainstream media, so that is all they know", but most people who vote in party primaries are, at least to some degree, actively involved in the political process, or are at least astute observers, who are not as much limited by the media's clear limitations and corporate bias.
Ron Paul is the only candidate that is effectively reaching American people with a message that reasonably speaks with the American people's deepest concerns about this country and where it is headed. The War In Iraq and the economy will be the most pressing concerns on everyone's mind. The Republican party is on the verge of serious losses to the Democrats, but only because they are not putting forth the answers that the American people are demanding.
The presidental election is crucial to the Republican party. If they lose the executive branch, their party is pretty much out of power. With the serious economic situation this country is in, and with the platforms the leading Democrats are leading on, this loss would quite possibly be devastating for America. Now, I'm not sure on this, but I think it might be plausible that the senior members and party leaders might be a little bit concerned about this, and are going to be honestly assessing the situation. I'm pretty sure they aren't going to base their decision on the MSM's inability to register Ron Paul's support.
Huckabee's baseless surge should be testament enough that what the MSM is saying right now doesn't mean anything tomorrow. People are being very obtuse about this rather irrelevant "barrier" to Ron Paul's chances. The conservative media is attacking Huckabee. No surpise that Huckabee surged right after the CNN/Youtube debate. The fact that Huckabee is a Democrat in disguise doesn't have anything to do with a liberal media's bias resonating with him, does it?
Ron Paul is the most electable candidate that is running in the Republican party. The only real question is whether or not he is the most likely to be nominated, and I feel pretty confident that this is the case. Ron Paul is an ingenious campaigner. I've been hearing some speculative discussion about what the official campaign has planned right around the time it will start receiving media attention for the Boston Tea Party moneybomb and the Ron Paul Blimp, and its very intriuging stuff. Ron Paul is going to start using a lot of this low-cost, debt-free money of his in some very effective advertising campaigns. My guess is that he will get very dramatic. The Iowa campaign is getting very active, and New Hampshire seems set for Ron Paul. No doubt, the blimp being in the state for the last two weeks should help.
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His newfound celebrity is not what one would have expected three decades ago, when Paul first won a seat in Congress. But while the celebrity may have changed, the philosophy has not.
"He was always pretty consistent. I used to say it doesn't make any difference what the issue is, someway or another, Ron will always get it back to the Gold Standard," says Bob Gammage, referring to Paul's stance against government-issued paper currency not backed by gold – a hallmark of Paul's economic philosophy.
Gammage ran against Paul in 1976, in a special election to fill the House seat of Bob Casey, a Democrat who resigned in the middle of his term to become a Maritime commissioner. Gammage thought he would hold the seat for the Democrats.
At the time, the country was coming out of the Watergate scandal. President Nixon had resigned, and Democrats were looking to make big gains in Congress. But the Paul campaign took them by surprise, Gammage says.
"A lot of people did not take him seriously," Gammage says. "He snuck up on them."
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Gammage himself learned the hard way not to underestimate Paul, an obstetrician from Brazoria County.
On the morning of the runoff election, Gammage got an early dose of a tactic that, 30 years later, would become known as "swift boating." Gammage says he was jolted out of bed by a radio ad from the Paul campaign that featured a blood-curdling scream.
"The next thing I heard was this sweet girl's little voice saying, 'I hope my daddy and mommy don't vote for Bob Gammage, 'cause he wants to turn the rapists and murders loose to attack us in our beds. I hope my mommy and daddy vote for Ron Paul. He wants to put them in jail where they belong,'" Gammage recalls with a laugh.
I think you'll also have Ron Paul's relationship with Ronald Reagan played up a lot more. The fact that Ronald Reagan practically endorses Ron Paul for president doesn't hurt.
"Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our Country" - Ronald Reagan
You can't get any more Republican than Ronald Reagan. I don't think history left any endorsements from Reagan for Romney.
I wonder who Ron Paul will announce as his vice-presidental candidate very soon...
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Madtowntripper said: Yeah, thats pretty much what he's been doing for months. He'll guarantee a Ron Paul win, but when you call him on it, he'll say he's not making any guarantees.
I can't assert to know how reality will occur. I'm simply feeling confident that my assessment is very reflective of how things will play out. All the signs are there.
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"The second most likely scenario is that the vote will be split and the decision will be made in a smoke-filled room."
I hope that happens and Ron Paul gets a cabinet position.
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Best idea I've heard yet
I'll second that sentiment!! We can weigh him down first, right?
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he should select Nader and total freak this fucking place out!
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: afoaf]
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Paul/Kucinich 2008 doesn't seem to make much sense unless Kucinich dropped his public health care platform, which he is very proud of.
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Re: The Ron Paul BLIMP! [Re: freddurgan]
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The Liberty blimp took off at 9:00 A.M. Today, in N.C. They decided not to wait for the other banner that has been delayed. (The other side will have the rEVOLution sign on it) It's one sided until Monday. Also not sure if it will make it to Boston for the tea party.
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