Home | Community | Message Board

MushroomCube.com
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags, Substrate Mix   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
InvisibleBandersnatch
Frumious


Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 768
Possible Subbalteatus?
    #7738056 - 12/09/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So I found a shitton of these guys in a friend's backyard in Southern California. I'm thinking they're Subbs but I don't observe any bruising. It rained heavily the other day.





Habitat: Southern California, backyard. It stays pretty moist back there and the soil is rich. Under oak trees.

Gills: The gill color varies from a tannish to a dark brown The seem to be adnate.

Stem: Reddish, pretty fragile, breaks easily when twisted.

Cap: Tan, brown smooth, zonate on most specimens 3/4inch to 1 1/2inches in diameter.

Spore print color: Black

Bruising: No observed bruising.

Location: Southern California

So what do you guys think?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblelandsnorkler


Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 3,047
Loc: Montana
Trusted Identifier
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7738078 - 12/09/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Nope. Those are psathyrellas.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBandersnatch
Frumious


Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 768
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7738090 - 12/09/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That was going to be my next guess. Noob for the win.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineorigami.octopus
Mycoporn fanaticin training


Registered: 11/17/07
Posts: 256
Last seen: 15 years, 9 months
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7738393 - 12/09/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dont give up.

keep at it


--------------------
I like to look at mushrooms the way most people like to look at flowers.

this is an amazing game
http://www.kongregate.com/games/customlogic/sprout


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBandersnatch
Frumious


Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 768
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7738579 - 12/09/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So upon a couple of hours of drying it seems that those zonate regions were just moisture trapped between the gills. The caps are all just a uniform tan as seen in the center of the photos above.

Fo' sho not subbs.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineEl Zorro
in heaven
Registered: 03/21/07
Posts: 902
Last seen: 2 years, 27 days
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: Bandersnatch]
    #7740518 - 12/10/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Actually, Subbs will also all turn a uniform color as they dry out. That's what the term hygrophanous means.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2859558484
Growery is Better
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 8,752
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: El Zorro]
    #7740536 - 12/10/07 01:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

wtf yall? those arent subbs? looks like its some subbs that got raned on to me, i say theya re subbs.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehaymaker
Mr Psychonaut
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 10/26/07
Posts: 1,374
Loc: United Kingdom Flag
Last seen: 4 years, 2 months
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: 2859558484]
    #7740654 - 12/10/07 01:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i was inclined to say yes when i first saw them, but they do look a bit funny.

if they are psathyrella then they wont be poisonous, so maybe try a low dose?


--------------------
"Make hay while the sun shines"
My Trade List


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlan RockefellerM
Mycologist
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/10/07
Posts: 48,276
Last seen: 34 minutes, 41 seconds
Trusted Identifier
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: haymaker]
    #7740853 - 12/10/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am sure these are Psathyrella. The shape of the cap gives them away, and the gills don't look like Panaeolus gills and the stems are thin Psathyrella stems.

Looks like P. gracilis:

http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Psathyrella_gracilis.html


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleGGreatOne234
Stranger
Registered: 12/23/99
Posts: 8,946
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7740897 - 12/10/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

I am sure these are Psathyrella. The shape of the cap gives them away, and the gills don't look like Panaeolus gills and the stems are thin Psathyrella stems.




Agreed. Keep looking though.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepscyanescens
The Raindancer
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/14/06
Posts: 1,397
Loc: Santa Cruz, CA
Last seen: 2 years, 8 days
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: haymaker]
    #7740925 - 12/10/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Psathyrella microrrhiza is my guess. Thees guys are growing all over my property since last year when i imported a shit load of wood chips. Here is picture from this year in my front yard.



--------------------
----------------
"With an abundance of Cyanescens... i would never touch another Cubensis again."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblescout24
Hallelujah!
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 2,769
Loc: Disappear Here
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #7741313 - 12/10/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Almost definitely not subbs. Looks like Psathyrella to me too.


--------------------
Always
Be
Closing


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBandersnatch
Frumious


Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 768
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: El Zorro]
    #7741368 - 12/10/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Very cool, didn't know that.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBandersnatch
Frumious


Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 768
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #7741388 - 12/10/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

pscyanescens said:
Psathyrella microrrhiza is my guess.




They look kind of similar, but I think the waviness of the stems on those sets them apart from what I've got.


Edited by Bandersnatch (12/10/07 04:28 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblescout24
Hallelujah!
 User Gallery

Registered: 02/12/07
Posts: 2,769
Loc: Disappear Here
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: scout24]
    #7741487 - 12/10/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

check out this pic of subbs for a comparison.



--------------------
Always
Be
Closing


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offline2859558484
Growery is Better
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 8,752
Last seen: 3 years, 4 months
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: scout24]
    #7741854 - 12/10/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

my bad, i am used to playing in cowshit.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinepscyanescens
The Raindancer
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/14/06
Posts: 1,397
Loc: Santa Cruz, CA
Last seen: 2 years, 8 days
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: 2859558484]
    #7743138 - 12/10/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Bandersnatch: I didn't notice that. The caps look identical how they dried and cracked. I take it they don't have a pellicle?

I have never found subs that i know were subs, but does anyone know if they have a pellicle? I know it is a very common psilocybe trademark but subs are not in the psilocybe family so i don't know?


--------------------
----------------
"With an abundance of Cyanescens... i would never touch another Cubensis again."


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblelandsnorkler


Registered: 09/26/06
Posts: 3,047
Loc: Montana
Trusted Identifier
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #7743160 - 12/10/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no, subbs don't have a pellicle.


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinePinheadX
Stranger thanyou
Male User Gallery


Registered: 04/25/07
Posts: 1,414
Loc: TX Gulf Coast
Last seen: 6 years, 1 month
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: landsnorkler]
    #7743516 - 12/11/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

subbs are panaeolus, not psilocybe. Panaeolus species tend to have caps that crack as they dry out.


--------------------
If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleBandersnatch
Frumious


Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 768
Re: Possible Subbalteatus? [Re: pscyanescens]
    #7743601 - 12/11/07 01:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

They don't have any evidence of a pellicle.

I'm pretty certain you're right about them being Psathyrella. There's a ton more growing out there in big patches if you guys want pictures of them growing.

They're harder to see now that it's drying out because they're about the same color as the oak leaves that they're growing through.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags, Substrate Mix   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract, Kratom Powder For Sale


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* northern california shrooms
( 1 2 all )
futuramaar 56,836 30 07/12/10 01:35 AM
by CureCat
* Pan Sub ID Please Muecci 1,449 9 09/23/03 08:55 AM
by angryshroom
* think my digging through horse poop has hopefully found me some pans subs goldmastermoneyj 1,180 7 05/25/07 04:39 PM
by Subbedhunter420
* Pan. Subbs TheBotanist 5,121 11 06/10/10 10:39 PM
by Jvells
* PNW Subbs? ID + pictures freezepooter 1,214 7 06/02/06 02:38 PM
by Shalambo
* Pan. Subb find in Oregon{update on pics}
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 all )
GSAfarmer 22,193 111 11/16/04 05:34 PM
by Asante
* Liberty cap color variation + pan subbs NiGGy 1,763 8 10/20/05 05:38 PM
by MushroomMarkk
* The actives are in So. California again!
( 1 2 all )
Subbedhunter420 3,205 30 03/23/07 03:53 AM
by Subbedhunter420

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: ToxicMan, inski, Alan Rockefeller, Duggstar, TimmiT, Anglerfish, Tmethyl, Lucis, Doc9151, Land Trout
1,951 topic views. 4 members, 44 guests and 28 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.03 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 16 queries.