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OfflineQuerjek
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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: Infested]
    #7738082 - 12/09/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If your body is in the present, then your mind is in the future; that's all it is.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7738091 - 12/09/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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AlCapwn said:
Prove to me that controlling your reaction or going against it cannot be the result of fate at work whatsoever.




Why don't you prove it your self... Just give it a try, dedicate a day. Act in an opposite manner of what you usually would. Like Kapitoshka said its "Great practice."

Remember that to act differently on all the impulses you need to be aware of all of them. You really have to switch perspectives and watch your self live.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: Querjek]
    #7738099 - 12/09/07 08:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Querjek said:
If your body is in the present, then your mind is in the future; that's all it is.




Exactly doesn't that sound very predictable.. That you can almost take advantage of it.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: Infested]
    #7738114 - 12/09/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

But that's just based on how I normally would react. And if I did that, I'd be reacting to this thread, so everything I would be doing, despite being spontaneous, would have a purpose. In doing so, you paradoxically defeat your own purpose, and therefore are a huge asshole.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7738137 - 12/09/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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AlCapwn said:
But that's just based on how I normally would react. And if I did that, I'd be reacting to this thread, so everything I would be doing, despite being spontaneous, would have a purpose. In doing so, you paradoxically defeat your own purpose, and therefore are a huge asshole.




Well for first you were just defeated.. You gave up, you don't even want to give it a try.

Secondly you already fucked up from what i told you to do. That was your impulse saying fuck this shit i am not going to do it fuck this asshole (because this is what you would normally do) . But instead you should reverse this impulse actually do it.

You will not be acting upon my post you will be acting upon things in life what ever it has in store for you.

Edit: And This post is one of those things.

Or are you trying to say normally you would actually listen to me and give it a try and since your normal reaction should be acted upon differently. If so i am glad you started early :laugh:


Edited by Infested (12/09/07 08:38 PM)


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OfflineKapitoshka
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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: g00ru]
    #7738170 - 12/09/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am not interested in proving any philosophical concepts, but interested only in practical aspect of things. I know what I am talking about based on my experience, what it done to my life and what is the span of possibilities. You, on the other hand, discuss the matter from purely conceptual perspective and attempt to bring my arguments to that level. Do not do that.

To Guuru: Not picking up pencil is easy, stopping playing WoW isn't :wink:


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OfflineAlCapwn
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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: Kapitoshka]
    #7738194 - 12/09/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, this thread is on the subject of a philosophical notion, so to reply with non philosophical answers you're far from answering the original post, or even providing useful input.


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OfflineKapitoshka
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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7738222 - 12/09/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

AlCapwn said:
Well, this thread is on the subject of a philosophical notion, so to reply with non philosophical answers you're far from answering the original post, or even providing useful input.




So, you're insisting that practical advice that can beneficially change one's life and give a new dimension to life is not to be considered a useful input.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: Kapitoshka]
    #7738224 - 12/09/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Kapitoshka said:
To Guuru: Not picking up pencil is easy, stopping playing WoW isn't :wink:




Quit.....WoW?

I'm sorry I don't understand. :lol:


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OfflineAlCapwn
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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: Infested]
    #7738226 - 12/09/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Jump off a cliff. No? You were just defeated, you don't even want to give it a try.

I don't think you understand where I'm coming from very well.

Seriously, the reason I say you were defeated is because trying to prove that actions can be independent from reaction to something, you are reacting to something, therefore losing. It's a paradox because it contradicts itself, and paradoxes are impossible and cannot exist.

Another example of a paradox would be "I always lie". It's impossible.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: g00ru]
    #7738246 - 12/09/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

guruu said:

I'm sorry I don't understand. :lol:




Heh, nm then )


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7738282 - 12/09/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What kind of mentally ill person would use such a tool for cost or suicide. I don't just randomly react to impulses... after all thats what an impulse are... Instead I make a decision that will benefit me.

I don't think you understand where i am coming from.. Because i am talking from experience. I know there is something to it because i am using it everyday.. And i am not the only one. I am not the only one at all.

But unfortunately it takes one to know one.

Great discussion i am out to bed :smile:


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: Infested]
    #7738288 - 12/09/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Infested said:
What kind of mentally ill person would use such a tool for cost or suicide. I don't just randomly react to impulses... after all thats what an impulse are... Instead I make a decision that will benefit me.

I don't think you understand where i am coming from.. Because i am talking from experience. I know there is something to it because i am using it everyday.. And i am not the only one. I am not the only one at all.

But unfortunately it takes one to know one.

Great discussion i am out to bed :smile:




I'm not sure if you realize it or not, but trust me, you're wrong.


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OfflineAlCapwn
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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: g00ru]
    #7738301 - 12/09/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hahaha, nothing irritates me more than when people don't bother REALLY reading my posts and then reply. It's not a hard concept to grasp. At least you're on my side.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7741704 - 12/10/07 05:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it is true though, i had this insight on a mushroom trip once. We remember our lives, they have already happened and it's been this way since infinity.

We are under the impression that we are in control and that we have free will, which is all false.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: future]
    #7742413 - 12/10/07 07:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, it really depends on if you believe the philosophical notion or not. Proving this is equally as hard as proving god, it's all theoretical. However, human reaction could be provable.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: g00ru]
    #7742432 - 12/10/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i don't particularly think we have free will

why

because i just wrote that

i didn't write about garbonzo beans

think it over

you just read this, and can only write whatever you write, or don't write, and nothing else ever


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7742454 - 12/10/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It would be very hard to prove though. I'll just take things as they come. If it really is me just reacting to the universe or a higher power or being... then so be it. I still feel like I'm making choice none the less.


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: leery11]
    #7742457 - 12/10/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

leery11 said:
i don't particularly think we have free will

why

because i just wrote that

i didn't write about garbonzo beans

think it over

you just read this, and can only write whatever you write, or don't write, and nothing else ever




But do we not make the choice to write it? You could have written about garbonzo beans just as easily couldn't have you?


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Re: A Trippy Thought.. [Re: g00ru]
    #7742463 - 12/10/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"Your awakening, while slow and sometimes painful, is assured, and this you must trust above all else."~Wingmakers


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