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What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law?
    #7735938 - 12/09/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously, we cannot stand up to our military. The 2nd amendment has been subverted and there is no way we can take our gov't with shotguns and muzzle loaders. What do you do? Grab the Vaseline and bend over Bubba.

As for me, I will bite my tongue and be a good robot (until I can GTF OUT). How can we possibly defend our rights against our government? We can't. Our "rights" are on loan to us from them. What they say goes, or you get disappeared...


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7735946 - 12/09/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You really must think you are the most important person on earth if you think the most powerful government on earth is really out to get you.

The fact is the US will not declare martial law for the same reason less free countries-including those of Europe, India and even China do not declare martial law-it would not be profitable.

We can declare martial law in the event of an emergency, like a terrorist group acquiring nuclear weapons and setting them up in a city (not an impossibility) and if that happens I will be damn glad. I don't want to risk my family getting blown to pieces simply because some politician was more concerned with his image then the safety of his people.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7735948 - 12/09/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Look no further than your signature.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: WScott]
    #7735969 - 12/09/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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WScottsdale said:
Look no further than your signature.




Yes murder people over ideology. Nevermind the fact that these are real people withy families who sacrifice daily to keep you safe. The ends justify the means right?

I know it, even better why not just find out where their families live and take their children hostage. That should really get the attention of the authorities. I mean, we may as well seeing as we are taking innocent lives for paranoid reasons already.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736073 - 12/09/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I am not saying that the gov't is out to get me. What I am saying is that whatever our government wants to do, it will, and the people are powerless.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7736105 - 12/09/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SoY said:
I am not saying that the gov't is out to get me. What I am saying is that whatever our government wants to do, it will, and the people are powerless.




The governnment is composed of people. People with family, and relatives, and dreams. So is the military. And so is the police.

Now, don't get me wrong, there are some government where the politicians look out only for themselves--namely dictatorships. But ours has a democratic tradition.

I have faith in my government, because so far the government has been good to me. I have never had to deal with secret police, or corrupt cops demanding bribes, or some party official censoring my statements. I also realize we have a constitution, checks and balances, and the ability to vote, as well as speak our minds freely.

The fact that you can even debate this issue on this forum proves how free you are. If you were in China and you mentioned revolution you'd be locked up in a second. Like I said you have no idea of how truly free you really are.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736225 - 12/09/07 11:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I also realize we have a constitution, checks and balances, and the ability to vote, as well as speak our minds freely.




Where have you been for the last 6 years?

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The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawarely enslave themselves."

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"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither"

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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7736240 - 12/09/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SoY said:
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Paleocon said:
I also realize we have a constitution, checks and balances, and the ability to vote, as well as speak our minds freely.




Where have you been for the last 6 years?

Quote:

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.
The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawarely enslave themselves."

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Quote:

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither"

Benjamin Franklin







First of all you are misquoting Benjamin Franklin. What he said is those who would sacrifice fundamental freedoms for a little bit more security deserve neither.

Secondly, you seem to be missing an obvious fact. You can debate about overthrowing the government on these forums. If this was truly a tyranny you'd be arrested arrested immediately.

Just try doing any of this in a real dictatorship. Go to China and Iran and start debating about a revolution against the government. You'd be in a slave camp in a second.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736257 - 12/09/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You can't even make a joke about Columbine on the internet without getting arrested.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7736267 - 12/09/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SoY said:
You can't even make a joke about Columbine on the internet without getting arrested.




Bull. I'll make one right now. What do you call a school full of kids being shot up? A good start.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7736271 - 12/09/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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You can debate about overthrowing the government on these forums




No, no you can't.

See H.R.1955 - Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7736277 - 12/09/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Bull. I'll make one right now. What do you call a school full of kids being shot up? A good start.




Did you hear about this?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/14746746/detail.html


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736278 - 12/09/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

load my gun and keep it handy in case anyone tries anything stupid with my property. martial law usually means an emergency aka post Katrina in NO when dozens of people where killed. i met a national guard guy who was actually shot at by American citizens while trying to help people in NO during that time. now if it is marshal law like Hitler did and the government is trying to get all fascist then i guess I'd just make a run for Canada then catch a flight to New Zealand and kayak my life away!


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7736285 - 12/09/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SoY said:
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Bull. I'll make one right now. What do you call a school full of kids being shot up? A good start.




Did you hear about this?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/14746746/detail.html




That is because he is a government employee in a position of authority. You're damn right he shouldn't be promoting school violence. Just imagine if one of his students took him seriously.

And 300 dollars bail is a slap on the wrist. Besides you are changing your argument, I am not going to be arrested and you know it. So much for your claim.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7736291 - 12/09/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SlashOZ said:
load my gun and keep it handy in case anyone tries anything stupid with my property.




Yeah you are really brave in a country where you know the police aren't going to just execute you. But if the Muslims ever come to your home, I bet you will cower just like all those pathetic anti-establishment types.

Go ahead, go into another country with a real police state-authoritarian military with your pea shooter and see how far you get. Try walking into china or north korea with a gun, and see how long you last against their beyond well trained thugs. They'd send a sniper to take you out-problem solved.

Remember soldiers are trained. And training, to quote Tom Clancy, is what makes the difference between a soldier and an ignorant civilian.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736391 - 12/09/07 12:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

paleocon you are not a bright one are you? marshal law is usually indicative of some sort of emergency like post katrina NO. it is employed to keep the majority of people safe from a small, usually rioting, minority. i would be much more worried about people trying to break into my house to steal things than i would a cop showing up under marshal law. i would only protect my property (which is 100% legal in the U.S.) not go around shooting people for no reason. the military and police would never randomly just come into someones house in the U.S. under marshal law. i know a lot of you think cops are 100% evil but even under marshal law if you called the police and were like "people are breaking into my house" they would probably respond and they sure as hell wouldn't do anything against me if i shot at people breaking into my house.


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Edited by SlashOZ (12/09/07 12:24 PM)


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7736433 - 12/09/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

SlashOZ said:
paleocon you are not a bright one are you? marshal law is usually indicative of some sort of emergency like post katrina NO. it is employed to keep the majority of people safe from a small, usually rioting, minority.




Proof? I'm sorry, but if asked to decide, I believe my government (who treats me better then any other government in any other country) over some random drug addict on a mushroom board.


Edited by Paleocon (12/09/07 12:32 PM)


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7736451 - 12/09/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Kind of off topic but am I the only one who wants to throw up when people use the "But in China, Pakistan... ect its SO MUCH WORSE" argument. If you want to judge where you live by those standards, fine, but it is completely meaningless to use in an argument.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736490 - 12/09/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i learned what marshal law was when i was in high school so unless your only like a junior or something then i guess you'll just be in the dark until you become a senior in high school.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7736519 - 12/09/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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SlashOZ said:
i learned what marshal law was when i was in high school so unless your only like a junior or something then i guess you'll just be in the dark until you become a senior in high school.




And in the mean time our government will keep securing your right to complain about marshal law.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736614 - 12/09/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Paleocon said:
Quote:

SlashOZ said:
i learned what marshal law was when i was in high school so unless your only like a junior or something then i guess you'll just be in the dark until you become a senior in high school.




And in the mean time our government will keep securing your right to complain about marshal law.




i wasn't complaining about it, go back and read my posts with your eyes open this time.


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Edited by SlashOZ (12/09/07 01:40 PM)


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736664 - 12/09/07 01:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Paleocon said:
Quote:

SlashOZ said:
i learned what marshal law was when i was in high school so unless your only like a junior or something then i guess you'll just be in the dark until you become a senior in high school.




And in the mean time our government will keep securing your right to complain about marshal law.




It's getting to where you have a permit or are in a designated free speech zone. People have been arrested for a reading the Constitution out loud in a park during a pro war rally.

Our rights to free speech are not as protected or "free" as you believe they are.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7736683 - 12/09/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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gettinjiggywithit said:
Quote:

Paleocon said:
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SlashOZ said:
i learned what marshal law was when i was in high school so unless your only like a junior or something then i guess you'll just be in the dark until you become a senior in high school.




And in the mean time our government will keep securing your right to complain about marshal law.




It's getting to where you have a permit or are in a designated free speech zone.




Does this forum have a permit? Is shroomery a designated free speech zone? Come on.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7736781 - 12/09/07 01:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Paleocon said:
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SoY said:
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Bull. I'll make one right now. What do you call a school full of kids being shot up? A good start.




Did you hear about this?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/14746746/detail.html




That is because he is a government employee in a position of authority. You're damn right he shouldn't be promoting school violence. Just imagine if one of his students took him seriously.

And 300 dollars bail is a slap on the wrist. Besides you are changing your argument, I am not going to be arrested and you know it. So much for your claim.




This is neocon's advocation of thought police.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7736788 - 12/09/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Minstrel said:
Quote:

Paleocon said:
Quote:

SoY said:
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Bull. I'll make one right now. What do you call a school full of kids being shot up? A good start.




Did you hear about this?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/14746746/detail.html




That is because he is a government employee in a position of authority. You're damn right he shouldn't be promoting school violence. Just imagine if one of his students took him seriously.

And 300 dollars bail is a slap on the wrist. Besides you are changing your argument, I am not going to be arrested and you know it. So much for your claim.




This is neocon's advocation of thought police.




Yeah you're just being hauled off for your opinions aren't you? I mean, it's just the regular communist china over here. Seeing as other dictatorships allow you to argue for armed rebellion over the internet.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7737176 - 12/09/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i learned what marshal law was when i was in high school so unless your only like a junior or something then i guess you'll just be in the dark until you become a senior in high school.




You did, huh? You din't lurn rill wel.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7737205 - 12/09/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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You can debate about overthrowing the government on these forums




No, no you can't.

See H.R.1955 - Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007




The Alex Jones inspired hysteria about this has already been slaughtered here
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7593622#7593622


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7737209 - 12/09/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well i spelled a word wrong. doesn't change the fact that paleocon is totally wrong.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7737257 - 12/09/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

About what? You guys actually seemed to be fairly close to agreeing, i.e. that it's not an impending fascist plot but an occasionally necessary maneuver, in spite of your insults.

And SoY, Buss didn't make a joke, he made a threat. There's also a thread about that asshole, too.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7716578/an/0/page/1


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7737783 - 12/09/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

cellphone towers
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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7739277 - 12/10/07 05:27 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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You can debate about overthrowing the government on these forums




No, no you can't.

See H.R.1955 - Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007




Have you actually read the text of that document? I think it's safe to say you haven't.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Redstorm]
    #7739965 - 12/10/07 10:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Have you actually read the text of that document? I think it's safe to say you haven't.




I think it's safe to say that you have no idea what I've read or not.

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You can debate about overthrowing the government on these forums




Did you read the text of the bill? It explicitly states that a homegrown terrorist is someone who adopts an *violent*, *extremist* (not defined) belief system with the intent of religious, political, or social change.

Overthrowing the government most definitely falls under that umbrella.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7741805 - 12/10/07 05:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I am not saying that the gov't is out to get me. What I am saying is that whatever our government wants to do, it will, and the people are powerless.




The governnment is composed of people. People with family, and relatives, and dreams. So is the military. And so is the police.

Now, don't get me wrong, there are some government where the politicians look out only for themselves--namely dictatorships. But ours has a democratic tradition.

I have faith in my government, because so far the government has been good to me. I have never had to deal with secret police, or corrupt cops demanding bribes, or some party official censoring my statements. I also realize we have a constitution, checks and balances, and the ability to vote, as well as speak our minds freely.

The fact that you can even debate this issue on this forum proves how free you are. If you were in China and you mentioned revolution you'd be locked up in a second. Like I said you have no idea of how truly free you really are.




I have dealt with many police and "secret" police. In fact my unhealthy relationship with the government started when I started working at an environmental activist organization. The mere fact the FBI keeps close tabs on peace-advocating individuals should be hint enough that there is something to hide. Let's not forget that thanks to the Patriot Act, and the Homegrown Radicalization Terrorist Act revision, diffusing information about "social change" is deemed as a terrorist activity.

I have absolutely no faith in a government entirely ruled by private interest groups (pharmaceutical, military, corporate) that have gone out of their way to create some sort of feudal control system.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: DreamSignals]
    #7742031 - 12/10/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I have dealt with many police and "secret" police(What about sooper seekrit police?). In fact my unhealthy relationship with the government started when I started working at an environmental activist organization. (Which one? ELF?)The mere fact the FBI keeps close tabs on peace-advocating individuals should be hint enough that there is something to hide. (Perhaps they aren't quite so peace advocating)Let's not forget that thanks to the Patriot Act, and the Homegrown Radicalization Terrorist Act revision, diffusing information about "social change" is deemed as a terrorist activity.(Really? Would you mind citing an example of this occurring? Thanks in advance.)

I have absolutely no faith in a government entirely ruled by private interest groups (pharmaceutical, military, corporate) that have gone out of their way to create some sort of feudal control system.(Whatever. Do what you want. I find the current paradigm in America to be infinitely better than anything that has ever been anywhere else. If you try to change it I, will challenge you. If you try to change it violently, I will applaud your incarceration. If you're lucky.




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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7742849 - 12/10/07 09:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

zappa you are so funny. you are ignorant enough to think that the society you live in is the best that there ever was and is the best that there ever will be. how can you possibly say that since you have not lived in any other time or society? if you oppose change simply because it is a change to the status quo you are one sorry individual.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7743236 - 12/10/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Bull. I'll make one right now. What do you call a school full of kids being shot up? A good start.




Did you hear about this?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/14746746/detail.html




That is because he is a government employee in a position of authority. You're damn right he shouldn't be promoting school violence. Just imagine if one of his students took him seriously.

And 300 dollars bail is a slap on the wrist. Besides you are changing your argument, I am not going to be arrested and you know it. So much for your claim.




This is neocon's advocation of thought police.




Yeah you're just being hauled off for your opinions aren't you? I mean, it's just the regular communist china over here. Seeing as other dictatorships allow you to argue for armed rebellion over the internet.





They are allowing you to argue for armed rebellion because they know that you are too lazy to actually do it. The governments made it really easy for a whole lot of us to become complacent and just enjoy the cheap luxuries that capitalism and the mass production of goods have made easily accessible.

Why the fuck would we fight when we have it so good?


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SoY]
    #7743271 - 12/10/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Seriously, we cannot stand up to our military. The 2nd amendment has been subverted and there is no way we can take our gov't with shotguns and muzzle loaders. What do you do? Grab the Vaseline and bend over Bubba.





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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: elmanimal]
    #7744187 - 12/11/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah but they have stone and mud (that shit gets hard) houses to barricade.  I can only last so long in my drywall and vinyl siding fortification.  What you need is some kind of old cheese factory.....

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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7744466 - 12/11/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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zappa you are so funny. you are ignorant enough to think that the society you live in is the best that there ever was and is the best that there ever will be. how can you possibly say that since you have not lived in any other time or society? if you oppose change simply because it is a change to the status quo you are one sorry individual.




By your own faulty logic (only that which is immediately experienced can be known) you can have no opinion yourself. Wankers, i.e. philosophers, have even been known to argue that that which is experienced cannot be truly known. A useless philosophy.
Any changes I'd like to make probably overlap yours by about 40%. But then I have some concept of human nature. You, not so much. I believe that there is a very thin veneer of civilization that overlays any one individual's overwhelming selfishness.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7745761 - 12/11/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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zappa you are so funny. you are ignorant enough to think that the society you live in is the best that there ever was and is the best that there ever will be. how can you possibly say that since you have not lived in any other time or society? if you oppose change simply because it is a change to the status quo you are one sorry individual.




By your own faulty logic (only that which is immediately experienced can be known) you can have no opinion yourself. Wankers, i.e. philosophers, have even been known to argue that that which is experienced cannot be truly known. A useless philosophy.
Any changes I'd like to make probably overlap yours by about 40%. But then I have some concept of human nature. You, not so much. I believe that there is a very thin veneer of civilization that overlays any one individual's overwhelming selfishness.




what hole is in my logic? i never said that i had an opinion on anything. i was just pointing out how your claim was absolutely baseless. my stance on society is that right now is the status quo and that we can only make changes to that in order to improve it. i made no claim about how good or bad it was in comparison to every other society in history like you did. see the difference?

how can you possible quantify your experience in american society with that of a society that was around even 90 years ago? you can't because you didn't experience it. you can assume that this one is better based on second hand knowledge. your dislike for philosophy still doesn't mean you know any more about what it was like to live at any other time or place in history or the future for that matter.

also where do you get off saying i have no concept of human nature? i'm willing to bet that i have an equal if not superior grasp on human nature than you do. after all you think war is natural.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7746263 - 12/11/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I so proud to be an American!



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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Paleocon]
    #7746288 - 12/11/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Beware, Soy is an Iranian agent who posts disinformation on the internet to get people to oppose the US government.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Luddite]
    #7746297 - 12/11/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think you're an Iranian agent sent to make Americans look like buffoons.


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Re: What do you do the day the US declares Martial Law? [Re: Luddite]
    #7746483 - 12/11/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I sir, am an American Patriot!

{good, good....they think I'm from Iran.....my Draconian agenda is still a secret......:sinister:}


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