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Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics.
    #7735864 - 12/09/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

DMT is well known for taking people on a trip to another dimension. I've never smoked DMT my self but I know that lots of people who have seriously believe that DMT is the key to another dimension and that the entities and being they meet are real.I was just wondering if anyone seriously believes that they have gone to another dimension or some sort of spirit world with the use of psychedelics? For a short period of time I did.

There was a couple months in my life where I seriously believed that when I would breakthrough with the LSD+N20 combo that my soul was leaving my body and visiting some sort of spirit world or another dimension outside of reality. This guy's trip report on erowid pretty much describes my experiences perfectly:

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=142
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The complete story would fill volumes, and it has a need to be told, both to let others know of a dimension that exists in which all of our questions are answered, in which life's mysteries can be revealed, where God and Soul make absolute sense, and in which truth and madness are the same universe...

My brother coined the term 'Gascid' to describe the combination of Nitrous Oxide on top of LSD...I read an article here 'Smeared Across Infinity' and inside surged with empathy for the fortunate voyager who experienced this psychedelic synergy.

To me, Gascid is a 'place', not a drug combination. It would take a novel to explain a single experience. I do not want to write 300 novels. Gascid is quite simply the most profound experience that there is. For me, it *is* truth




Everytime I'd breakthrough the experience was so fucking real that I seriously believed that LSD was some sort of key to another dimension, or that LSD was more than just a drug, it was something from another dimension that was placed in our reality by some "higher power". Every breakthrough it was like I would learn the meaning of life, see all the secrets of the universe, and get a peak behind the curtains of reality, it was like God was telling me all the secrets of life.

Now I no longer believe that my soul is leaving my body and entering another dimension. I now believe that this spirit world is all in our brains and that the LSD+N20 combo gives us the power to see or experience it. Think about it, our brain is our life, without our brain we can't see, we can't talk, we can't feel, we can't LIVE. When our brain shuts off we leave this reality (die) and continue on in some sort of spiritual way. I think that somehow LSD+N20 has the ability to let us get a glimpse of the spiritual "oneness" that we experience after death.

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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7735949 - 12/09/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't feel that our brain is our life. I feel consciousness is. The brain is merely a filter IMHO. It translates sensory perception on a limited level and computes it in a way we can understand within these biological shells we're encased in. What makes us individual, and self-aware, goes far beyond the brain IMO. I feel that consciousness IS multi-dimensional, and not limited to this 4-D reality that we percieve while in these physical bodies. I feel that powerful entheogens such as DMT, Salvia, and to a lesser extent Shrooms, allow a temporary freedom and detachment of this consciousness to roam outside of its physical casing, and beyond those limited sensory and dimensional perceptions associated with the biological capabilities.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: EthericOctopuss]
    #7735998 - 12/09/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What is your definition of "consciousness"?


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7736014 - 12/09/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have had one trip where I experienced something other than this reality; something - and everything "alien"

It began as a routine "just for kicks" adventure that quickly descended into a case of schizophrenic panic and palpable confusion. I didn't seek this state at all, rather I was dragged spitting and spewing gibberish into a confused wreck in the corner of an upstairs bedroom.

At the time I was fairly new to psychedelics, having had maybe between 5 - 10 trips. I was an irresponsible teenage prick with the sole idea of tripping on the brain.

I wont go into details too much (that would be an invitation to write a page or two) but at a certain point into the experience my friends felt it was best to just leave me alone in this room and sit outside.

What happened next was THE complete mind fuck.

I dont know and will never find out what 'state I was in' (to the objective observer) ie - sleeping, awake, catatonic? but I sliped outside of this reality completely. Everything I had every touched, smelled, tasted (you get the idea) melded and merged together. It was like consensus reality collapsed in on itself. And here was me at the center thinking, "Holy shit im dying - this is it"

Then I glimpsed infinity, and experienced dimensions and sensations not possible in our everyday 3d plus time human comprehension.

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And now, sitting here writing this, what do I make of it?

I dont like to give the experience too much respect. It was no final "truth" or answer to anything. I treasure all that I was witness to that day, and will always carry the perspectives and viewpoints derived from the trip with me whether I like it or not.

Altough this was all caused by the ingestion of chemicals foreign to my body, what I experienced WAS real, and suggests that there is a whole horizon to the human mind (and reality) that is unseen in everyday life.

This horizon should be studied, and to neglect and prohibit the psychedelics experience would be to deny ourselves a valuable learning tool.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7736107 - 12/09/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dingleberrysalad said:
What is your definition of "consciousness"?




Well again, note that I'm putting a lot of "IMO"s here, as these are just my personal views and feelings based on things I have experienced and have had shared with me...That being said, my feeling of what consciousness is:

Awareness of both individuality, as well as a universal, or multiversal interconnectivity to all other forms of awareness / intelligence. I feel consciousness exists both inside (while in these physical bodies) and outside of linear time, and that it evolves through a continual cycle of biological and energetic (spiritual) experiences. I feel this consciousness, or awareness is a piece, or spark of the creator, and that it has always existed, and always will. I feel that past the physical body, it can move anywhere, anytime, instantaniously just by will.

Again, hopefully I won't upset anyone with my views, as that is all they are, my own feelings.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: EthericOctopuss]
    #7736125 - 12/09/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't feel that our brain is our life. I feel consciousness is. The brain is merely a filter IMHO. It translates sensory perception on a limited level and computes it in a way we can understand within these biological shells we're encased in. What makes us individual, and self-aware, goes far beyond the brain IMO. I feel that consciousness IS multi-dimensional, and not limited to this 4-D reality that we percieve while in these physical bodies. I feel that powerful entheogens such as DMT, Salvia, and to a lesser extent Shrooms, allow a temporary freedom and detachment of this consciousness to roam outside of its physical casing, and beyond those limited sensory and dimensional perceptions associated with the biological capabilities.




Yes! Exactly! If I could say it better myself, I would. :thumbup:


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Unifloo]
    #7736497 - 12/09/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What drug were you on during that trip Unifloo? Shrooms or acid?


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7736731 - 12/09/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

sounds like shrooms to me

last time i was pretty sure i had short circuited and i think i remember what he was talkin about

everything was everythin, while some cool insights here and there jus to complex for my puny brain to handle, then i realized that and continued on with my existence, quite the releiver exitence is!


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Konyap]
    #7740988 - 12/10/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So where all the DMT smokas at? I'm interested to hear about their interdimensional travels and encounters with elves and beings.

What do you think? Really traveling to another dimension with elves and beings or do you think it's just one hell of a mind blowing trip???


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7741108 - 12/10/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think DMT is a message from other worlds but your body stays in reality as we know it. When you dream you dont leave this world but you may be seeing messages from some alternet reality.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: F1234K]
    #7741174 - 12/10/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dmt takes me through other beautiful dimensions. i know its a drug intraction ,but just the fact that they exist in my trip makes them real to me.ive never experienced any entities though


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: 2859558484]
    #7741789 - 12/10/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is what I like to call Astral Speak. A jargon that describes something seemingly intrinsic and AWESOME to the psychedelic experience.

True, the brain chemicals create your experience;essentially that means even reading this is neurological in very base nature: Henceforth, to an extent sobriety is is in itself functional in the same way as a trip is, with an obvious difference in relativity.

Monsters, Ghosts, Spirits, Machine-lords, Aliens and the like...stuff all related to this forum here was all part of my life before I even knew what Mushrooms were. Venturing into psychedelics have brought me all these archetypes and more face to face in one way or another.

Why do we even have words like this? Because of psychedelics, early mushroom use and other tribal similarities? All I know is these words to label something the experience definatley at least hints at is a clue as to what they can do for you, if that is what you are looking for. I HAVE visited other worlds and HAVE talked to Trees and Dead Native Americans. Granted, it was all a complex arrangement of self-induced seratonin antagonist (heroes?), however that is the source of the spirits. Talking about the source is one side, and the form another. Where do these things come from? And that? Is it even worth thinking about?

Anyway, yeah, I have met wild things.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Unifloo]
    #7744547 - 12/11/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Then I glimpsed infinity, and experienced dimensions and sensations not possible in our everyday 3d plus time human comprehension.




Something similar happened to me on 28g Amanita muscaria. I truly felt as if I died yet I was still aware of my body. I could feel the molecules returning to their natural state. I was losing energy fast and moving my limbs felt like I had to push through the air. At this time I was screaming at the top of my lungs and ended up fighting some paramedics but that's another story. I was having out of body experiences the whole time (I was in and out of my body).

edit: Salvia breakthroughs have sent me into alternate realities altogether.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7744651 - 12/11/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Spiritual world is either:

A. Actually in existence, accessible through our spirits, through spiritual practices and psychedelics.

B. Actually just in our heads, i.e. some complex illusion created by a brain loaded on hallucinogens.

A actually equals B, and they are FAR from mutually exclusive.

I think they are just two ways of saying the SAME THING.

I think the mind's ability to 'create' this dimension is the same as the spirit's ability to access it. Either way,

SOMETHING REALLY FUCKING CRAZY HAPPENS WHEN YOU SMOKE DMT.

You can not discount that.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7744670 - 12/11/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

god damn you want to get a sick oobe alien abduction mindfuck you need to combine a dissociative, a tryptamine and some really nasty large air conditioner/electronics buzzing vibrations.. your whole body gets to enter an entirely gnu dimension. opiates cannahbs be there


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Aopocetx]
    #7744757 - 12/11/07 12:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't feel that our brain is our life. I feel consciousness is. The brain is merely a filter IMHO. It translates sensory perception on a limited level and computes it in a way we can understand within these biological shells we're encased in. What makes us individual, and self-aware, goes far beyond the brain IMO. I feel that consciousness IS multi-dimensional, and not limited to this 4-D reality that we percieve while in these physical bodies. I feel that powerful entheogens such as DMT, Salvia, and to a lesser extent Shrooms, allow a temporary freedom and detachment of this consciousness to roam outside of its physical casing, and beyond those limited sensory and dimensional perceptions associated with the biological capabilities.





That is exactly how I feel. I don't go as far as to call it a belief but, I certainly feel that it is a possibility from my experiences. It's pretty much the only explanation I've come up with and actually feel may be the reality of it all.

As for the elves and other entities encountered during the liberation from the physical. I think they are products of our minds trying to reconcile the liberated awareness with the recollection of the physical.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7744795 - 12/11/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just a question to all the posters here:

Have you ever experienced 'entity contact'?

Not just a face on the wall, or a figure floating above you or a collection of patterns resembling a form combining with your own thoughts to create an entity.

I mean an actual intelligence dirceting your trip and communicating ideas to you. Has THAT ever happened to you?

It is a rare thing, but it is quite revealing. If that has happened to you, you can reason it all out to say that is was just your own mind, but on a deeper level you know it was what it appeared to be: An actual intelligence within the hallucinogenic experience that revealed itself to you.

It's not a matter of faith. It's like the grand canyon, you KNOW it's there when you see it because it's fucking HUGE!

It does happen. Maybe not to you, but to me and quite a few other people out there. It makes me think there is a little bit more to this whole thing than just drugs and brains, although that is the physical basis of it.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7745253 - 12/11/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can explain it but I can't make you understand
I can explain the entity thing as a form of trails, personality trails, associative recall and synthesis. sometimes you meet someone else, sometimes you meet yourself.
when brain signals persist 3 seconds or more this happens.
I can explain the radically crazy and unrelated stuff as obliquely related associative recall due to threashold of partials arranged in a key way.
when brain signals persist to any degree, the overlapping images can be bizarre and the ideas invoked even crazier.
I can explain the other dimensions as trails of all senses operating together. you can look around and still see behind you what you were seeing before.
these are all examples of teh effects ofincreased persistence or slower fadeout of signals.
psychedelics are all about slower fading of signals.
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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7746050 - 12/11/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If one of my methods was the method of using good methods, would you hold it against me if I used your methods?

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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7746202 - 12/11/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

on salvia, oh yeah i experienced another world.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7746262 - 12/11/07 06:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i have had similar experiences on dream herb and psilcybe.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: PoisonedV]
    #7746284 - 12/11/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7746315 - 12/11/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have a theory on this. Well I'm sure lots of other people might have the same theory but here goes.

I saw the movie "What the Bleep do We Know?" It's about quantum physics and other cool stuff. It's kind of a lame movie but at times it is very interesting. There is a part that says that our entire perception of the world is based on our wiring and arrangement of neurons. There is no such thing as an 'objective' universe. The universe is only perception. It's really complicated, watch the movie.

So, heres where psychedelics come in. I think that, to some extent, they effect our neurons in a way to bring us all to the exact same perception of the universe, or at least to much more similar peceptions. This is why people on acid sometimes talk with thoughts, why you feel so connected with people you are tripping with, and why you feel so alienated from sober people. This is also why you can see your life in a whole new light. Suddenly you view the universe from a completely fresh perspective.

I definitely think that not only are these 'other worlds' real, I think that the entire 'tripping world' is just as real as the various worlds we all inhabit. It's not like it exists 'physically,' but then nothing really does in the manner in which we are used to thinking. The only difference is that people only exist in this psychedelic state for hours at a time, as apposed to living in their own paradigms their whole lives.

Sorry if this doesn't make so much sense, I wish I could communicate it orally, its hard to summarize in writing.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: g00ru]
    #7746672 - 12/11/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think i must be abnormally prone to entity contact with psychedelics. It started with my first salvia breakthrough where the Goddess and her male gatekeeper (or whoever he is) completely directed my trip. First the gatekeeper kept me in a prison for many eternities per orders of the Goddess until i figured out how to break out of said prison; then the goddess took control and showed me my personal ocean of time (or whatever it was). Now these entities are present every time I smoke salvia.

After that, in my then-deepest K hole, the same salvia Goddess appeared to me in K land and told me that it was my own personal universe to do with what i wish. she has yet to reappear in any further ketamine experiences.

My first two (and so far my only two) DMT experiences were populated by these suspicious grinning faces, much like the Cheshire Cat from "alice's adventures in wonderland". Initially the faces were on these 2-dimensional, wingless space wasps who seemed intent on swarming me. The second time, they weren't bees, but i knew they were the same faces...they just seemed to be floating and swirling all around me until they condensed into one thing and seemingly penetrated my abdomen...as they did this i began to come apart at the seams, bursting with golden light and then i started to come out of the trip.

I haven't had anything that intense happen with psilocybin, but there's definitely a voice there which speaks quite clearly and articulately with new information...

With acid there's also a voice (female), though much less pronounced....but she always lies to me. makes up all sorts of stupid stuff that i can tell is pure malarkey. She'll show you some great beauty if you do EVERYTHING her way, but for the most part its just not worth it to me to have to put up with her fuckin games.

I also seem to have the magic touch with Ouija boards these days...even by myself without candles or any sort of ritual it always works right away.

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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: g00ru]
    #7746679 - 12/11/07 07:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I have a theory on this. Well I'm sure lots of other people might have the same theory but here goes.

I saw the movie "What the Bleep do We Know?" It's about quantum physics and other cool stuff. It's kind of a lame movie but at times it is very interesting. There is a part that says that our entire perception of the world is based on our wiring and arrangement of neurons. There is no such thing as an 'objective' universe. The universe is only perception. It's really complicated, watch the movie.

So, heres where psychedelics come in. I think that, to some extent, they effect our neurons in a way to bring us all to the exact same perception of the universe, or at least to much more similar perceptions. This is why people on acid sometimes talk with thoughts, why you feel so connected with people you are tripping with, and why you feel so alienated from sober people. This is also why you can see your life in a whole new light. Suddenly you view the universe from a completely fresh perspective.

I definitely think that not only are these 'other worlds' real, I think that the entire 'tripping world' is just as real as the various worlds we all inhabit. It's not like it exists 'physically,' but then nothing really does in the manner in which we are used to thinking. The only difference is that people only exist in this psychedelic state for hours at a time, as apposed to living in their own paradigms their whole lives.

Sorry if this doesn't make so much sense, I wish I could communicate it orally, its hard to summarize in writing.




You just summarized my thoughts and helped me understand a piece I didn't before. I think I believe the same shit as you as far as psychedelics go. If I'm correct, your saying that on psychedelics, they act as a filter or filter remover and by filter, i mean neuronic frequencies that are passed back to our perception and I feel that I'm not as connected to sober people


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7746708 - 12/11/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

tee hee the dream world is a very real world as well. its just how you paint it. dreams are ussually future events. its kinda like if someone told you your going to meet their friend and they told you all sorts about the person and you make concept in your mind but its not exactly like they person when you meet em but close. thats how dreams can be. they will show you the future in a slightly differnt light. i love it


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7747343 - 12/11/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

those motherfuckers in my head.... all gamers?.....fuck those assholes!tryin to make me (im)perfect....


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Sra_sephiroth0]
    #7747429 - 12/11/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Sra_sephiroth0 said:
tee hee the dream world is a very real world as well. its just how you paint it. dreams are ussually future events. its kinda like if someone told you your going to meet their friend and they told you all sorts about the person and you make concept in your mind but its not exactly like they person when you meet em but close. thats how dreams can be. they will show you the future in a slightly differnt light. i love it




yeah i've had dreams that predicted future events 6 months beforehand, i think another one was like 2-3 years, problem is when you first witness it you dont actually know when it'll happen lol until after the fact.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7747492 - 12/11/07 11:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think that those entities are really out there.... because psychedelics make me see my best friend who died many years ago, along with entities with similar personality traits as him, but not human.

It's really complicated to explain, but i know i have some in contact with entities especially whilst under the mushrooms spell.

I have attempted to draw some..... and i will post them here.



I have drawn others but not colored, and are rough sketches.... but i find that kind of stuff really interesting.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Konyap]
    #7747549 - 12/11/07 11:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have come to understand the entities are sort of gatekeepers and are very real to me.
They are also found in my own dna.
How dna acts directly on consciousness.

They are divine and true.
They are blueprints aswell as landscapes full of color and sound.

They told me better things have been done in this place.
After all, they are hidden in my own brain.

A vast collection of gatekeepers.
They laugh when you throw mental noise at them in order to communicate or emulate their sound.
They are a part of the logos.
Thats why they can speak in english if necessary.
There is some blueprint that allows for an average of the massive team to speak.
Its the ambassador.
The ambassador weighs all objects.
The ambassador is a tool within the brain.

To connect the other dimentions to the physical dimention which scientific observations of neurology cant touch at this point in time.

It is amazing when these collections of consciousness talk to you.
Sometimes, they try to show you how to work with them.
If you sing to them mentally and try to speak their language they cheer and laugh(and its really loud and you will know full well why they reacted in such a way).
In my case, they kicked me out, and left me with the FACT that better things have been done in this place.
This is what started it all for me.
The weirdest of the weird.

I found out where they hang out, although they need to invite me if my intention was to interact directly.

I have never met any entities aside from the three hooded figures that are also tools resembling the golden mean, and this partially seperate collection of coils that hold information that does not belong to only myself.
These thousands upon thousands of coils emit sound, color and blueprint for understanding their logos.
Geometry is key.
Math is key.

How ones mind receives the information depends on how receptible the brain and self are to these other dimentions of consciousness.
The tools that bend rules have told me how and when to break rules.
Without their guidence, I dont know where to look.

They are some sort of tool that has to do with bipass metal surgery mechanics.

If you ever find them or even hear their sound, consider youself lucky.

BECAUSE, better things have been discovered in that place.

They told me how to bipass time and see future events(future events that were to occure in the next 60 seconds).
They granted me access to a place where they could prove to me that they were real.
They gave me access for a small period of time, and told me how to see.

They spoke, laughed, and cried just like people do.

They kicked me out the first time and for some reason I know why.
Thats because I had more work to do and I needed to find out how I could get to this place without these chemicals.

There is nothing more scary than a chemical teaching you how to see something that is already alive inside of you and can only be found stricktly within the confines of the human mind when saturated with natures gifts.

Meditation cant do this.
You need to bipass the entire system.
Nature provides....................................................
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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: yageman]
    #7748114 - 12/12/07 06:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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To connect the other dimentions to the physical dimention which scientific observations of neurology cant touch at this point in time.






Maybe there is no hard and fast proof of how this can be accomplished neurologically, but it must be out there somewhere, because after all it does happen. I don't think anything is beyond the realms of science.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7748118 - 12/12/07 06:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yep, Salvia does this to me and it's some pretty fucked up shit.

Salvia brings me on interdimensional trips to other places and to other higher beings and so on. It's crazy and to me it's real. I believe in it and it's actually there.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: hpi]
    #7748161 - 12/12/07 06:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yageman
that was a very honest set of data.
thankyou.

could the one minute view to the future be like living in a 1 minute stack of buffered moments.

I have often descended the well to a comfortable multidimensioned zone of rammified association and conjuring which trails the moment of living.
This delightful place, behind the Now, and full of branched Nows, includes the current Now as well.
When we catch up it is like Deja vu, or like having seen 1 minute into the future.

It takes no time at all to catch up, but it involves a bit of surfacing from the wider rammified spaces in the well.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7748426 - 12/12/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

when i OBE i usually think i'm experiencing other dimensions, and during OBEs and lucid dreams i've met people/things that appear to not be me.

on drugs, i used to do alot of dxm, i thought i was traveling to different dimensions but now i doubt it strongly.

on psychedelics i've never gone to other dimensions. i have met things which i guess you could call entities. at first i thought they were truely independent, but then i decided i was just looking at time and personality a different way and then anthropomorphizing it.

for example, take a person who is pretty nice, but every so often they do something mean. on psychedelics i used to be able to see the person, and then an entity living inside them that would occasionally take control. it was just my breaking people's personalities into shards for study.

whats really neat if you do this though is i came to believe that you can trace lineages of personality shards, they share a bloodline so to speak. also different parts of the self communicate with other peoples part of the self through coded language and metaphor. if you crack the codes you can communicate directly with the unaccessible parts of other people, often without their knowing, which is good if you can mimic the signals of personality shards of your choosing.

its mind control!


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7748514 - 12/12/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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guruu said:
I saw the movie "What the Bleep do We Know?" It's about quantum physics and other cool stuff. It's kind of a lame movie but at times it is very interesting. There is a part that says that our entire perception of the world is based on our wiring and arrangement of neurons. There is no such thing as an 'objective' universe. The universe is only perception. It's really complicated, watch the movie.





That's exactly what I was trying to get at when I said "Your brain is your life" in my first post.

And I'm pretty sure I've seen that "What the bleep do we know?" movie at a friends house. If it's the movie where they keep talking about "going down the rabbit hole" or "how deep the rabbit hole goes" then I've seen it.

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The second time, they weren't bees, but i knew they were the same faces...they just seemed to be floating and swirling all around me until they condensed into one thing and seemingly penetrated my abdomen...as they did this i began to come apart at the seams, bursting with golden light and then i started to come out of the trip.





Reading that really makes me want to smoke DMT. :thumbup:


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7748583 - 12/12/07 10:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, it's past my bedtime but check out this bit of rambling....

I believe that psychedelics are just tools, the 'magic' that happens is within us. Dreams are real and there is a source of power far greater than any of us. We're all just the same soup, our spirits are an individual identification. Beyond that everything is just a fractal within a larger fractal. Most of what we experience in our day-to-day life is a hologram of the energy fields at work, which can be manipulated. We have stole the bones from the bosses of the underworld making us a fluke as a species, and the only means we have of surviving is by appeasing the folks of the Spirit World. This place exists within us at all times and there is a double of us within us that we learn from if we're able to communicate with him/her. Also this place can be found by using a Mirror Machine, traveling to Siberia or smoking Salvia/DMT/etc or by subtlety tweaking our brain waves.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: schmutzen]
    #7751537 - 12/12/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

now that you mention it those bastards make bad tones when they beleive im fuckin up, but with my guitar in my hand nailing a part i sometimes think i hear a sound fx, not a bad one, more like a 1up but really out there
eh if theyre part of me they cant be so bad:shrug:

but yea i am pretty manipulative, i think people are out for me, but really in the end im out for myself...its bunz sometimes


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: yageman]
    #7752874 - 12/13/07 08:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

yageman said:
I have come to understand the entities are sort of gatekeepers and are very real to me.
They are also found in my own dna.
How dna acts directly on consciousness.

They are divine and true.
They are blueprints aswell as landscapes full of color and sound.

They told me better things have been done in this place.
After all, they are hidden in my own brain.

A vast collection of gatekeepers.
They laugh when you throw mental noise at them in order to communicate or emulate their sound.
They are a part of the logos.
Thats why they can speak in english if necessary.
There is some blueprint that allows for an average of the massive team to speak.
Its the ambassador.
The ambassador weighs all objects.
The ambassador is a tool within the brain.

To connect the other dimentions to the physical dimention which scientific observations of neurology cant touch at this point in time.

It is amazing when these collections of consciousness talk to you.
Sometimes, they try to show you how to work with them.
If you sing to them mentally and try to speak their language they cheer and laugh(and its really loud and you will know full well why they reacted in such a way).
In my case, they kicked me out, and left me with the FACT that better things have been done in this place.
This is what started it all for me.
The weirdest of the weird.

I found out where they hang out, although they need to invite me if my intention was to interact directly.

I have never met any entities aside from the three hooded figures that are also tools resembling the golden mean, and this partially seperate collection of coils that hold information that does not belong to only myself.
These thousands upon thousands of coils emit sound, color and blueprint for understanding their logos.
Geometry is key.
Math is key.

How ones mind receives the information depends on how receptible the brain and self are to these other dimentions of consciousness.
The tools that bend rules have told me how and when to break rules.
Without their guidence, I dont know where to look.

They are some sort of tool that has to do with bipass metal surgery mechanics.

If you ever find them or even hear their sound, consider youself lucky.

BECAUSE, better things have been discovered in that place.

They told me how to bipass time and see future events(future events that were to occure in the next 60 seconds).
They granted me access to a place where they could prove to me that they were real.
They gave me access for a small period of time, and told me how to see.

They spoke, laughed, and cried just like people do.

They kicked me out the first time and for some reason I know why.
Thats because I had more work to do and I needed to find out how I could get to this place without these chemicals.

There is nothing more scary than a chemical teaching you how to see something that is already alive inside of you and can only be found stricktly within the confines of the human mind when saturated with natures gifts.

Meditation cant do this.
You need to bipass the entire system.
Nature provides....................................................
How appropriate




ha ha i really love you man great way to put it. recptivity is the issuse most of the time with people. When i beam stuff i guess(its a way to call it) you know info via the collective consciousnes some people get some really strange results. but as its been said this is kinda how when a medicine man sits you down and you take what ever with him and he turns into a animal or another person and then your in a feild doing what ever on another plane


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Unifloo] * 1
    #24505763 - 07/24/17 07:21 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

Holy shit this is an old thread but I just wanted to say to you
that you are not alone man.
I experienced that "reality spiralling in on itself and collapsing"
feeling as well during an extremely intense mushroom trip that left me profoundly
shaken and bedazzled for months afterwards.
Like you, it's hard for me to piece together an "official"
tapestry of the experience as it was so tremendous in its scale and pushed me to my very limits.

I remember after four or five hours of being bound to my bed in the room in the apartment I was staying in four years ago I started to gradually "land" back into the 3D reality of the bedroom where I had been tripping and I had been so sure I was dying at some point it wasn't even describable, and yet everything seemed to make sense given that my entire life up to that point was some kind of beautiful enticing dream.
I became extremely hungry afterwards and remember eating a graham cracker that tasted fucking amazing for some reason, I'm guessing due to the enormous amount of synesthesia I had experienced.

Mushrooms are no joke and I have greatly respected them ever since that night.
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I seek strength not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy...myself, so that when my life fades, as does the distant horizon, let my spirit come to you, without shame...oh great spirit.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #24506602 - 07/25/17 06:37 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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DMT is well known for taking people on a trip to another dimension. I've never smoked DMT my self but I know that lots of people who have seriously believe that DMT is the key to another dimension and that the entities and being they meet are real.I was just wondering if anyone seriously believes that they have gone to another dimension or some sort of spirit world with the use of psychedelics? For a short period of time I did.

There was a couple months in my life where I seriously believed that when I would breakthrough with the LSD+N20 combo that my soul was leaving my body and visiting some sort of spirit world or another dimension outside of reality. This guy's trip report on erowid pretty much describes my experiences perfectly:

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=142
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The complete story would fill volumes, and it has a need to be told, both to let others know of a dimension that exists in which all of our questions are answered, in which life's mysteries can be revealed, where God and Soul make absolute sense, and in which truth and madness are the same universe...

My brother coined the term 'Gascid' to describe the combination of Nitrous Oxide on top of LSD...I read an article here 'Smeared Across Infinity' and inside surged with empathy for the fortunate voyager who experienced this psychedelic synergy.

To me, Gascid is a 'place', not a drug combination. It would take a novel to explain a single experience. I do not want to write 300 novels. Gascid is quite simply the most profound experience that there is. For me, it *is* truth




Everytime I'd breakthrough the experience was so fucking real that I seriously believed that LSD was some sort of key to another dimension, or that LSD was more than just a drug, it was something from another dimension that was placed in our reality by some "higher power". Every breakthrough it was like I would learn the meaning of life, see all the secrets of the universe, and get a peak behind the curtains of reality, it was like God was telling me all the secrets of life.

Now I no longer believe that my soul is leaving my body and entering another dimension. I now believe that this spirit world is all in our brains and that the LSD+N20 combo gives us the power to see or experience it. Think about it, our brain is our life, without our brain we can't see, we can't talk, we can't feel, we can't LIVE. When our brain shuts off we leave this reality (die) and continue on in some sort of spiritual way. I think that somehow LSD+N20 has the ability to let us get a glimpse of the spiritual "oneness" that we experience after death.

Everyone please share your stories, thoughts, and beliefs.





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Its pretty cool


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Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
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Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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