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Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics.
    #7735864 - 12/09/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

DMT is well known for taking people on a trip to another dimension. I've never smoked DMT my self but I know that lots of people who have seriously believe that DMT is the key to another dimension and that the entities and being they meet are real.I was just wondering if anyone seriously believes that they have gone to another dimension or some sort of spirit world with the use of psychedelics? For a short period of time I did.

There was a couple months in my life where I seriously believed that when I would breakthrough with the LSD+N20 combo that my soul was leaving my body and visiting some sort of spirit world or another dimension outside of reality. This guy's trip report on erowid pretty much describes my experiences perfectly:

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=142
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The complete story would fill volumes, and it has a need to be told, both to let others know of a dimension that exists in which all of our questions are answered, in which life's mysteries can be revealed, where God and Soul make absolute sense, and in which truth and madness are the same universe...

My brother coined the term 'Gascid' to describe the combination of Nitrous Oxide on top of LSD...I read an article here 'Smeared Across Infinity' and inside surged with empathy for the fortunate voyager who experienced this psychedelic synergy.

To me, Gascid is a 'place', not a drug combination. It would take a novel to explain a single experience. I do not want to write 300 novels. Gascid is quite simply the most profound experience that there is. For me, it *is* truth




Everytime I'd breakthrough the experience was so fucking real that I seriously believed that LSD was some sort of key to another dimension, or that LSD was more than just a drug, it was something from another dimension that was placed in our reality by some "higher power". Every breakthrough it was like I would learn the meaning of life, see all the secrets of the universe, and get a peak behind the curtains of reality, it was like God was telling me all the secrets of life.

Now I no longer believe that my soul is leaving my body and entering another dimension. I now believe that this spirit world is all in our brains and that the LSD+N20 combo gives us the power to see or experience it. Think about it, our brain is our life, without our brain we can't see, we can't talk, we can't feel, we can't LIVE. When our brain shuts off we leave this reality (die) and continue on in some sort of spiritual way. I think that somehow LSD+N20 has the ability to let us get a glimpse of the spiritual "oneness" that we experience after death.

Everyone please share your stories, thoughts, and beliefs.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7735949 - 12/09/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I don't feel that our brain is our life. I feel consciousness is. The brain is merely a filter IMHO. It translates sensory perception on a limited level and computes it in a way we can understand within these biological shells we're encased in. What makes us individual, and self-aware, goes far beyond the brain IMO. I feel that consciousness IS multi-dimensional, and not limited to this 4-D reality that we percieve while in these physical bodies. I feel that powerful entheogens such as DMT, Salvia, and to a lesser extent Shrooms, allow a temporary freedom and detachment of this consciousness to roam outside of its physical casing, and beyond those limited sensory and dimensional perceptions associated with the biological capabilities.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: EthericOctopuss]
    #7735998 - 12/09/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What is your definition of "consciousness"?


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7736014 - 12/09/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I have had one trip where I experienced something other than this reality; something - and everything "alien"

It began as a routine "just for kicks" adventure that quickly descended into a case of schizophrenic panic and palpable confusion. I didn't seek this state at all, rather I was dragged spitting and spewing gibberish into a confused wreck in the corner of an upstairs bedroom.

At the time I was fairly new to psychedelics, having had maybe between 5 - 10 trips. I was an irresponsible teenage prick with the sole idea of tripping on the brain.

I wont go into details too much (that would be an invitation to write a page or two) but at a certain point into the experience my friends felt it was best to just leave me alone in this room and sit outside.

What happened next was THE complete mind fuck.

I dont know and will never find out what 'state I was in' (to the objective observer) ie - sleeping, awake, catatonic? but I sliped outside of this reality completely. Everything I had every touched, smelled, tasted (you get the idea) melded and merged together. It was like consensus reality collapsed in on itself. And here was me at the center thinking, "Holy shit im dying - this is it"

Then I glimpsed infinity, and experienced dimensions and sensations not possible in our everyday 3d plus time human comprehension.

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And now, sitting here writing this, what do I make of it?

I dont like to give the experience too much respect. It was no final "truth" or answer to anything. I treasure all that I was witness to that day, and will always carry the perspectives and viewpoints derived from the trip with me whether I like it or not.

Altough this was all caused by the ingestion of chemicals foreign to my body, what I experienced WAS real, and suggests that there is a whole horizon to the human mind (and reality) that is unseen in everyday life.

This horizon should be studied, and to neglect and prohibit the psychedelics experience would be to deny ourselves a valuable learning tool.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7736107 - 12/09/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dingleberrysalad said:
What is your definition of "consciousness"?




Well again, note that I'm putting a lot of "IMO"s here, as these are just my personal views and feelings based on things I have experienced and have had shared with me...That being said, my feeling of what consciousness is:

Awareness of both individuality, as well as a universal, or multiversal interconnectivity to all other forms of awareness / intelligence. I feel consciousness exists both inside (while in these physical bodies) and outside of linear time, and that it evolves through a continual cycle of biological and energetic (spiritual) experiences. I feel this consciousness, or awareness is a piece, or spark of the creator, and that it has always existed, and always will. I feel that past the physical body, it can move anywhere, anytime, instantaniously just by will.

Again, hopefully I won't upset anyone with my views, as that is all they are, my own feelings.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: EthericOctopuss]
    #7736125 - 12/09/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't feel that our brain is our life. I feel consciousness is. The brain is merely a filter IMHO. It translates sensory perception on a limited level and computes it in a way we can understand within these biological shells we're encased in. What makes us individual, and self-aware, goes far beyond the brain IMO. I feel that consciousness IS multi-dimensional, and not limited to this 4-D reality that we percieve while in these physical bodies. I feel that powerful entheogens such as DMT, Salvia, and to a lesser extent Shrooms, allow a temporary freedom and detachment of this consciousness to roam outside of its physical casing, and beyond those limited sensory and dimensional perceptions associated with the biological capabilities.




Yes! Exactly! If I could say it better myself, I would. :thumbup:


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Unifloo]
    #7736497 - 12/09/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What drug were you on during that trip Unifloo? Shrooms or acid?


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7736731 - 12/09/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

sounds like shrooms to me

last time i was pretty sure i had short circuited and i think i remember what he was talkin about

everything was everythin, while some cool insights here and there jus to complex for my puny brain to handle, then i realized that and continued on with my existence, quite the releiver exitence is!


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Konyap]
    #7740988 - 12/10/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So where all the DMT smokas at? I'm interested to hear about their interdimensional travels and encounters with elves and beings.

What do you think? Really traveling to another dimension with elves and beings or do you think it's just one hell of a mind blowing trip???


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7741108 - 12/10/07 03:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think DMT is a message from other worlds but your body stays in reality as we know it. When you dream you dont leave this world but you may be seeing messages from some alternet reality.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: F1234K]
    #7741174 - 12/10/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dmt takes me through other beautiful dimensions. i know its a drug intraction ,but just the fact that they exist in my trip makes them real to me.ive never experienced any entities though


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: 2859558484]
    #7741789 - 12/10/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is what I like to call Astral Speak. A jargon that describes something seemingly intrinsic and AWESOME to the psychedelic experience.

True, the brain chemicals create your experience;essentially that means even reading this is neurological in very base nature: Henceforth, to an extent sobriety is is in itself functional in the same way as a trip is, with an obvious difference in relativity.

Monsters, Ghosts, Spirits, Machine-lords, Aliens and the like...stuff all related to this forum here was all part of my life before I even knew what Mushrooms were. Venturing into psychedelics have brought me all these archetypes and more face to face in one way or another.

Why do we even have words like this? Because of psychedelics, early mushroom use and other tribal similarities? All I know is these words to label something the experience definatley at least hints at is a clue as to what they can do for you, if that is what you are looking for. I HAVE visited other worlds and HAVE talked to Trees and Dead Native Americans. Granted, it was all a complex arrangement of self-induced seratonin antagonist (heroes?), however that is the source of the spirits. Talking about the source is one side, and the form another. Where do these things come from? And that? Is it even worth thinking about?

Anyway, yeah, I have met wild things.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Unifloo]
    #7744547 - 12/11/07 11:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Unifloo said:
Then I glimpsed infinity, and experienced dimensions and sensations not possible in our everyday 3d plus time human comprehension.




Something similar happened to me on 28g Amanita muscaria. I truly felt as if I died yet I was still aware of my body. I could feel the molecules returning to their natural state. I was losing energy fast and moving my limbs felt like I had to push through the air. At this time I was screaming at the top of my lungs and ended up fighting some paramedics but that's another story. I was having out of body experiences the whole time (I was in and out of my body).

edit: Salvia breakthroughs have sent me into alternate realities altogether.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7744651 - 12/11/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Spiritual world is either:

A. Actually in existence, accessible through our spirits, through spiritual practices and psychedelics.

B. Actually just in our heads, i.e. some complex illusion created by a brain loaded on hallucinogens.

A actually equals B, and they are FAR from mutually exclusive.

I think they are just two ways of saying the SAME THING.

I think the mind's ability to 'create' this dimension is the same as the spirit's ability to access it. Either way,

SOMETHING REALLY FUCKING CRAZY HAPPENS WHEN YOU SMOKE DMT.

You can not discount that.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7744670 - 12/11/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

god damn you want to get a sick oobe alien abduction mindfuck you need to combine a dissociative, a tryptamine and some really nasty large air conditioner/electronics buzzing vibrations.. your whole body gets to enter an entirely gnu dimension. opiates cannahbs be there


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: Aopocetx]
    #7744757 - 12/11/07 12:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't feel that our brain is our life. I feel consciousness is. The brain is merely a filter IMHO. It translates sensory perception on a limited level and computes it in a way we can understand within these biological shells we're encased in. What makes us individual, and self-aware, goes far beyond the brain IMO. I feel that consciousness IS multi-dimensional, and not limited to this 4-D reality that we percieve while in these physical bodies. I feel that powerful entheogens such as DMT, Salvia, and to a lesser extent Shrooms, allow a temporary freedom and detachment of this consciousness to roam outside of its physical casing, and beyond those limited sensory and dimensional perceptions associated with the biological capabilities.





That is exactly how I feel. I don't go as far as to call it a belief but, I certainly feel that it is a possibility from my experiences. It's pretty much the only explanation I've come up with and actually feel may be the reality of it all.

As for the elves and other entities encountered during the liberation from the physical. I think they are products of our minds trying to reconcile the liberated awareness with the recollection of the physical.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: TripityDooDaDay]
    #7744795 - 12/11/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just a question to all the posters here:

Have you ever experienced 'entity contact'?

Not just a face on the wall, or a figure floating above you or a collection of patterns resembling a form combining with your own thoughts to create an entity.

I mean an actual intelligence dirceting your trip and communicating ideas to you. Has THAT ever happened to you?

It is a rare thing, but it is quite revealing. If that has happened to you, you can reason it all out to say that is was just your own mind, but on a deeper level you know it was what it appeared to be: An actual intelligence within the hallucinogenic experience that revealed itself to you.

It's not a matter of faith. It's like the grand canyon, you KNOW it's there when you see it because it's fucking HUGE!

It does happen. Maybe not to you, but to me and quite a few other people out there. It makes me think there is a little bit more to this whole thing than just drugs and brains, although that is the physical basis of it.


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7745253 - 12/11/07 02:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I can explain it but I can't make you understand
I can explain the entity thing as a form of trails, personality trails, associative recall and synthesis. sometimes you meet someone else, sometimes you meet yourself.
when brain signals persist 3 seconds or more this happens.
I can explain the radically crazy and unrelated stuff as obliquely related associative recall due to threashold of partials arranged in a key way.
when brain signals persist to any degree, the overlapping images can be bizarre and the ideas invoked even crazier.
I can explain the other dimensions as trails of all senses operating together. you can look around and still see behind you what you were seeing before.
these are all examples of teh effects ofincreased persistence or slower fadeout of signals.
psychedelics are all about slower fading of signals.
it can be marvelous or frightening or simply enlightening


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #7746050 - 12/11/07 05:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If one of my methods was the method of using good methods, would you hold it against me if I used your methods?

Great post!


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Re: Traveling to other dimensions or spirit worlds with psychedelics. [Re: RobMarley420]
    #7746202 - 12/11/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

on salvia, oh yeah i experienced another world.


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