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Bags for Beginners?
    #7735429 - 12/09/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Although I've completed the PFtek earlier this year and have read for countless hours about every aspect of mycology I still consider myself more or less a beginner due to my lack of experience.

Recently in a thread someone mentioned that grow bags have the potential of having a high failure rate, especially for beginners. Would anyone consider this to be true?

I'm planning on using pre-sterilized grow bags exclusively for my next grow and am about to order them, yet after reading this have had some concerns. I'm planning on getting an electric sterilizer in a couple months when I have the money for it set aside and then make my own bags, but for this run I was going to get them pre-sterilized.

Does anyone think I should go with jars? I understand that jars were the old favorite, but many have converted to bags due to their convenience and efficiency. But all these accounts were from experienced veterans. What about for the well-studied beginner?

Any opinions are greatly appreciated, I really would like to get this show on the road as soon as possible. But would rather not fuck up.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7735447 - 12/09/07 02:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Grain bags hold way more than jars. Thats why people use them for bulk grows. I would say go with jars the first couple times because you will have at least 12 quart jars instead of two or three grain bags. you could easily lose 3 jars or and still have 9 but if you lose the three grain bags you have to start over. +IMO pre-sterilized bags and jars cost way to much. I almost forgot you can always turn n9ne jars into 90 and 90 into 900 via G2G.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7735475 - 12/09/07 02:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I was thinking about that, and that is of course a reasonable argument. When I did my PFtek I had 24 jars and 2 of them were completely contam'd. And I think maybe one or two were questionable. I used multi-spore injection and they were knocked up in a dirty ass room with no alcohol wipes, just a bic lighter in between inoculations. Definitely learned my lesson about letting the needle cool down before inoculation.

Is there anything beyond this that I should be worried about?

If it makes any difference, I'm planning on using a karo-based LC.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7736290 - 12/09/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LC's fucken rock... i will never go back to just using a multi-spore syringe. i have multiplied my syringe to about a liter of solution and i can even multiply it even further if i please. i knocked up some brown rice jars a few days back (full cooked brown rice) and it took a little under 2 days to see first signs of colonization. using the LC will improve your grow experience substantially. If your bags contaminate you will see it within a few days for sure which doesn't mean you need to wait ages just to find that your bags are crapped all over.

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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7736308 - 12/09/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

"which doesn't mean you need to wait ages just to find that your bags are crapped all over."

right now I'm waiting on a bag i injected with spore solution about 1.5 months ago and I'm still not seeing any signs. is there anything i should be looking for? how long does it take for one bag to start to colonize with only spore solution? sorry for intruding on your post.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emilbus]
    #7736322 - 12/09/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

wow 1.5 months is ridiculous. if you don't have any signs of growth within a month and a half i would think that the bag needs to be tossed. it shouldn't take THAT long to see signs of growth. ive just seen growth in 2 days... almost 2 months seems toss-able IMO.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7736333 - 12/09/07 12:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it could just be the spore syringe, i got a panama syringe a while back that didn't do shit as far as producing mycelium. i just birthed 2 cakes that came from that strain and took about a month or so to fully colonize. My brazilian strain ate up my jars in 2 weeks or so (almost raped the nutrition deprived vermiculite top layer in the process).


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emilbus]
    #7736341 - 12/09/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if it was poo in the bag, never.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: Nibin]
    #7736355 - 12/09/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what should i do? wait longer or toss it? i think I'm just gonna leave it be. i mean its not hurting anything sitting in my closet.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emilbus]
    #7736365 - 12/09/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yea... leave it be, you won't loose anymore than you already have or could have.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: Nibin]
    #7736367 - 12/09/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I had a poo bag I injected with a multi spore that took month to show signs but after it did it took 10 days to col.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7736415 - 12/09/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

what signs did you see? just the white myc. right?


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emilbus]
    #7736488 - 12/09/07 12:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It started as couple of white fuzz spots in the center. At first I was thinking cob web, but that's usually on the surface mixed it up a little two days later it looked like myc. And took off I'm not sure why it took so long. Never injected mutispore in a poo bag before. I had an extra bag and I needed the syringe for lcs .


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7736503 - 12/09/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ive tried going with pre-made LC from shroomery sponsors 3 times and everytime has failed. im so tired of LC. everyone says its great but ive never had any luck. all i want to do is buy 3 pre made bags and shoot them up with some LC.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emilbus]
    #7736624 - 12/09/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I haven't had much luck with lcs I've made my self except for the ones I put a small amout of colonized grain in (after cooled from pc) and mixed for a week on mag. Stirer. I also am trying some premade lc from a sponser I just inoc. 4 with needle biop. clones 2 days a ago. Ill be checking on them later. You might try a grain bag from a multi then spawn to poo. I have done this with a fair amout success without a hood or glove box. Took one bag of spawn split it into 4 bag and resealed.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7736719 - 12/09/07 01:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i think i will try LC one last time, but I'm not sure if i want to purchase 3 bags or just go with one. i could fuck up all three and be short all that money or i could go with one and have great success only wishing i went with 3 bags.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emilbus]
    #7736760 - 12/09/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

go with 3, odds are very likely that one will succeed paying you back all your spent money :wink:


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emilbus]
    #7736797 - 12/09/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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i think i will try LC one last time, but I'm not sure if i want to purchase 3 bags or just go with one. i could fuck up all three and be short all that money or i could go with one and have great success only wishing i went with 3 bags.


How much lc are you injecting?


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7736823 - 12/09/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If your lc didn't work the 1st time try a test jar if you don't have a pc you can boil a brf jar and then you don't waste any bags and even if you don't have any of the supplies it will only cost you the price of one bag and you can continue to test in the future and not waste any then ether.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7736883 - 12/09/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Damn, that's scary... I wasn't even considering the possibility of my LC failing horrible. I was just planning on following the tek word by word and ordering my syringes from a reputable vendor. I didn't really see any room for failure there.

Last time I grew every single mini-failure within the grow could be traced back to a short cut I took in the tek I was using which made me rather confident that I would succeed the next time if I didn't take any short cuts and followed a reputable tek with good reviews word by word.

How high are the chances that if I do everything right, it just won't work? I mean, what are the factors that aren't within my control?


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7736967 - 12/09/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I've done everything right according to teks now that I've seen them, (prior to aug. I did eveything from past experince and reading from 10 years ago) and still had things go wrong. I've also short cutted the hell out of things and had them work. Its just always safer to test. I stopped for awhile when I was having great success, but then something went wrong. Even when you have 99% success rate that 1% can fuck you when its all you have. You'll probly be fine just be on the safe side when that all your eggs.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7737044 - 12/09/07 03:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well I guess I'll just knock up two bags and see how they do. When I see that they're going I'll knock up a couple more and if those start doing well, I'll do the rest.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7737098 - 12/09/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It never hurts the loss of a few days aren't as bad the loss of everything I did a test bag 2 days ago when I inoc. My new lcs from clones if it is alright today ill use it to make up the remain lcs I bought then test the 4 lcs I made from clones and one or more of them will become my new master. If something went wrong I only lost the one bag, and I should have a new lc in a couple more days to test. If all else fails I've go bags and jars of colinized birdseed in the fridge and about 50 spore prints. Its always good to have plan. Good luck


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7737138 - 12/09/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

SHIT! I just thought I had everything figured out and then I went outside to smoke a cigarette.

It's 10 fucking degrees and it's the middle of the day! (Fahrenheit that is...)

I was about to order my syringes, but now I don't know what to do. Won't the temperature completely destroy them when the mail man drops them at my front door to the time I get them inside?

(PO box not an option)


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7737167 - 12/09/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like you're going to camping out for the mail man :laugh:. Just don't let those syringes freeze -_-


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: BlargIAmDead]
    #7737185 - 12/09/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

depends on the time... you can always put up a sign telling the mail man to drop the mail into a cooler :wink:.

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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7737193 - 12/09/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I always order nextday shipping in the hot parts of summer and winter so can get them out of the mail box before they sit to long in the hot or cold but I've had more problems from heat that cold. I'm not sure but I always went by the rule if it doesn't freeze it all good. I mean I've kept syringes 5 months in the frige and haven't had a problem. That's 40f where are you located I'm by chicago


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: bryanbzl]
    #7737218 - 12/09/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I like that cooler idea never thought of that


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7737286 - 12/09/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm in Colorado... and I wasn't too worried because it's usually around freezing, but not THIS FAR below. I mean... 10 degrees, that's gotta be frozin' within an hour. And I can't take off work to wait for the mail man.

Would a cooler really keep it from freezing?


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7737293 - 12/09/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i personally would go with jars when you get your pc at first if you already have some. just untill you get used to bulk growing teks.
i have no experience with spawn bags but cant imagine any other failure than poor sealing or sterilization techniques

see this is where this hobby gets you. mycology is a science and science can get expensive. you also have to study.
try a liquid culture or learn agar.
my suggestion is to order more solution and read read read.
then learn agar with the new syringe while using only a few cc to grow your next run.
agar is the way to go. you spend much less money making spawn and it pays off in the long run. you can even go from agar to lc then to pf cakes or spawn bags and jars with only a drop of spore solution.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: CrazyEarl]
    #7737322 - 12/09/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yep. My very first try at this science was with AGAR and LC. I KNEW from the get go that the genetic source was finite if I didn't have a technique to stay in stock. You should work on keeping longevity before getting a fruit. That alone will pay for itself instead of having to throw money at a new syringe every time you run out. Try agar, learn cloning, look into ALL of the differing LC teks. Study what you read and then apply in a lab verbatim and you'll be OK. Try to hurry things and you might find yourself disappointed... please believe me.

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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7737350 - 12/09/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I was thinking a small cooler with some of those pocket warmers or some thing else that would keep it just above freezing temp inside it. (Heated gallon of water) shouldn't take much coolers work a thermases too, but you you'll want to experement first


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: eman113]
    #7737572 - 12/09/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

YES... EXACTLY the right train of thought! There's your answer friend... heat your mailbox somehow... extension cord to a heat bomb maybe???:thumbup:



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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: Crake]
    #7738839 - 12/09/07 11:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hmm... heating my mailbox. That's gonna be a rough one... keeping it heated for the 5 day range that it might arrive in that is. I was looking at the weather forecast and the time frame it'll hopefully arrive in is predicted to have a high of just above freezing and a lows of 14-18. How far below freezing do you guys think it'll have to be to kill the whole game within a couple hours?


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7738919 - 12/10/07 12:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If your going to make a karo based LC then you should add some Sugar In The Raw, It will really make a difference. Heres a thread I started about Karo LC's


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7738963 - 12/10/07 01:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'm still shifting back and forth between making my own LC's or ordering them pre-sterilized just to cut down on the risk of failing a smidgen more. If I'm ordering a pre-sterilized LC, what would be the best kind?

Oh, and thanks for the link Buddha. I'll definitely remember that if I chose to make my own.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7738981 - 12/10/07 01:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I would go with THIS one from Mycopath


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7739008 - 12/10/07 01:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I assumed that would be better than Karo, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks again for your timely reply.

Aaand. your avatar is fucking crazy. way... fucking crazy.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7739009 - 12/10/07 01:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Karo is the worst thing to use next to table sugar.
Malt extract and dextrose are some the best.


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: BUDDHA_702]
    #7739143 - 12/10/07 03:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Because of how processed it is? And therefore it having so little nutritional value?


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Re: Bags for Beginners? [Re: emrandel]
    #7842953 - 01/07/08 10:26 AM (16 years, 25 days ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5874305/an/0/page/0

quite possibly the simplest way to make your own LC


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