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Vector
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Williamsii]
#7746305 - 12/11/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I seriously doubt that it is really pure psilocybin unless he extracted himself. Why? It is a process which is somewhat pointless. You lose some of the product through an extra process when mushrooms alone are easy to consume. Why bother with the extra hassle? If anything it will be powdered mushrooms in gel capsules. If it were were pure psilocybin it would be a ridiculously high dose if it filled a gel capsule. According to erowid a threshold dose is 2 to 4 mg and a heavy dose is 35mg+. Think about it.
OH MAN!!! My friend finally got around to taking a couple (not while asleep, thank god) and he's gotta say: if you think that extracting is a "pointless process", you obviously have never taken a good dose of pure psilocybin! Its a whole other experience, man. CRAAAAZY.......
Edited by Vector (12/11/07 07:49 PM)
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Infested]
#7746516 - 12/11/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i have done something like that with cactus or aya i take it then take a nap and wake up in the midst
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are the two worlds blended together when you wake up? or is your trip themed by your dreams?
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Vector]
#7746774 - 12/11/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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for me its s cold dreamless sleep then i wake up in a heavy trip. tho taking aya before bed gives intense lucid dreams. this i consider differnt then going into trance while on aya or anything those invovle just leaving this world without lose of awareness
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Vector]
#12755798 - 06/16/10 11:19 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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so two and a half years later and I finally got up the balls to take the rest of what I had from when I originally posted in 2007.
First trip back in '07: I was told that each capsule was equivalent to an eighth of shrooms, and since my usual dose of shrooms was a quarter, I took two....not a good idea. Also, I was used to having lots of fun with a quarter of shrooms alone in my room, so i took the capsules solo....also a bad idea. Usually, when I eat shrooms, I call out to the little guys "come out, come out, wherever you are!" and we giggle and they start in their goofy neon circus for me. Well, when I said that this time, it was like I was back stage at the circus or something, with grizzled cigarette smoking elves saying "what the hell are you doing here, kid?" Then I got the impression that the mushrooms were the guardians to psilocybin world and since you digest them in a rhythm over the course of hours, you don't get dealt any more than our puny little human brains can handle. However, since I had taken the pure stuff, I wasn't in the normal mushroom space which has been carefully balanced and perfectly evolved over thousands of years. Instead, I was jumping past the guardian, right into their world. After this realization, the mushroom voice became so loud and so fast that I couldn't stand it. It was so hastily giving me an overabundance of information about our species that I couldn't contain it; like it was too big a fish to fry....stuff about us being like, pets or maybe even livestock or something, planted here by some galactically mobile race that's been at war with another race for over 50,000 earth years. Yes I know how crazy that all sounds, which is why I freaked out and puked my guts out. While puking, I was told by the voice that had I eaten enough mushrooms to get into this overwhelming space I would be purging the shrooms, thus causing the trip to immediately begin to wane. However, since my body had absorbed all the psilocybin already, I would have to remain in this space for a few more hours until the drug was out of my system. I first realized that the voice would stop if I was talking so I kept repeating "I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know...." for a while until I remembered what uncle Terence McK said about how singing was the cure for a rough trip. So I put on some music with words (I'm usually a trance and ambient kinda guy) and sang and chatted with friends online until the trip waned. Before this trip I had taken acid and mushrooms probably about 15-20 times each, taken salvia in every possible way (except pure crystal salvinorin-A), smoked DMT a couple times, and done all sorts of RC's, etc.; After this trip, I became very, very cautious of psychedelics, as I felt like I had finally pushed the boundary maybe farther than I could handle. I took low doses of shrooms a couple times just to prove to myself that I wasn't ruined, but the desire to go all out bonkers just hasn't been there since this.
Second trip, recently: Just took one capsule this time with my girlfriend (it was her idea to trip, I was reluctant but couldn't in good conscience deny her); also brought MDMA into the mix (I figured an ally would help after the somewhat traumatic experience with this stuff before). The trip came on fast and strong; by approximately 1 hour in, I was on the peak which I would ride for another 4 or 5 hours. At first it was introspective, but then it moved into the same theme as the last time, where it wanted to tell me all about creation and beyond, but I just didn't want to hear it. IMO, That's just too much information for an animal like me to have floating around in my head. What would one do with that information, other than go mad? Its not like I can (or would want to) join the mushroom army in their fight against the reptilians (figuratively). I conveyed my feelings to them that I wanted to live in this world a bit longer, as I greatly enjoy my life and who I am these days. At this point they sought to challenge me and started telling me this stuff anyway and inviting me to come in and hang out with them in the garden of eden. I closed my eyes and I was right at the border and could have walked right in, but I felt so awkward about it and didn't want to; I had seen it before and it made me feel confused, overwhelmed, and a bit schizo. This is when I decided it was time for us to eat half a pill of mdma (great idea!) Meanwhile, my girlfriend had been rendered speechless and was feeling extremely nauseous. Remembering my last pure psi experience, I had the urge to get vocal, so I went in and sat next to her in front of the toilet and just starting making jokes for the next hour or two. I could tell she was in a tough space and didn't know how to get out, so I figured that if I could keep her honestly laughing long enough for the E to kick in, it would start to get more manageable. Apparently I was hilarious because she didn't stop laughing the whole time....I think it was probably funny because they were mostly toilet jokes (I mean come on, just the idea of two people tripping balls sitting around a toilet is funny enough), but also theological jokes...I sort of created a whole hybrid religion with the toilet being god (ummm....I guess you had to be there). After my comedy routine finished my girlfriend took one puff off a J and finally puked, kicking her trip into high gear while mine waned. The way she described it to me, it sounds like she took the step into the garden of eden. Also she later told me, as we kept the E train rolling, that while she was speechless she had this whole thing about the earth goddess getting right up in her face, full-on, taking her to school on what it means to be female amongst other things. During my joke marathon, I had this revelation about all great musicians, comedians, and the like, having a touch of mysticism behind their eye; like they had seen something that they either couldn't explain, didn't feel they could talk about, or were trying to keep their mind off of, which is what led them to develop their craft so well: a serious need for distraction. I should note that I am a musician in many facets, as I saw so many similarities between music and comedy: the timing, the rhythm, the intonation, and how we can't put our finger on what makes us laugh the same way we can't put our finger on how music conveys emotion. All in all this trip really validated a lot of things for me, and made me feel more in control of my own mind, since I was able to direct the trip through both will, and dosing. I can't help but wonder if my mushroom taking days are quite limited, if not over. I think i've really seen as much as I care to from this drug. Perhaps there is another psychedelic path for me, though perhaps not....we shall see!
Anyone else lucky enough to happen upon pure psi care to share their experience?
Edited by Vector (06/16/10 11:28 PM)
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Vector]
#12756185 - 06/17/10 12:58 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds awesome Vector!!
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: DeathCompany]
#12756251 - 06/17/10 01:23 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Vector said: i'm telling you guys, its mushroom extract. are you just jealous?  if you really don't believe me can you please just pretend its the real thing for the sake of my thread?
No no i completely believe you, I was replying to someone else who was ill informed.
Ive actually heard a guy going to sleep after taking shrooms, he woke up and thought it was a dream, kept trying to walk through walls and such
A friend of mine had a similar experience the first time he took shrooms. I think he went to sleep before he hit the peak and then some friends came over to see what was up and he came out fully believing he was dreaming. Pretty crazy when you think about it, to be 100% convinced reality is just a dream shows how fragile our perspective is.
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: BirdsIView]
#12756338 - 06/17/10 01:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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seems like a waste
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? *DELETED* [Re: Vector]
#12758788 - 06/17/10 04:11 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: cesarmd7]
#12758905 - 06/17/10 04:34 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree^^
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: mattritt]
#12760010 - 06/17/10 08:03 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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You sure it wasn't 4-AcO-DMT?
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AHHHH, with your mention of 4-AcO!!! I dream about that shit hahah. I wanna try it so bad.
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Vector]
#12762051 - 06/18/10 04:50 AM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahaha maaang cool trip! you're right about jokes and intonation/rhythm in music, its our brain mystical "liking what we hear" theory that means that too much mathematics will not produce great music for our brains anyway because we are not completely robots yet! im a musician too in my free time and i just trip on the sounds it produces with eyes wide shut
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Vector]
#12763498 - 06/18/10 12:53 PM (13 years, 7 months ago) |
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Vector said: ....stuff about us being like, pets or maybe even livestock or something, planted here by some galactically mobile race that's been at war with another race for over 50,000 earth years.
DEFINITELY been here before!
Glad to hear someone else got this trip too... I thought I was on my own!
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Vector said: ....stuff about us being like, pets or maybe even livestock or something, planted here by some galactically mobile race that's been at war with another race for over 50,000 earth years.
DEFINITELY been here before!
Glad to hear someone else got this trip too... I thought I was on my own!
You should check out the topic on DMT an Multidimensionality, watch the first video the OP posted.
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Vector
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: cesarmd7]
#13330341 - 10/13/10 11:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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cesarmd7 said:
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-After this realization, the mushroom voice became so loud and so fast that I couldn't stand it. It was so hastily giving me an overabundance of information about our species that I couldn't contain it; like it was too big a fish to fry....
-I first realized that the voice would stop if I was talking so I kept repeating "I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know...."
-At first it was introspective, but then it moved into the same theme as the last time, where it wanted to tell me all about creation and beyond, but I just didn't want to hear it.
You shouldn't be resisting this in my opinion. There's a reason the mushrooms keep insisting in it. I know it can feel overwhelming, I've been there before with ayahuaska. But it's important; just take a few deep breaths relax your body and mind and open yourself up for the insights. They might not make sense to you at once, in fact it could take several trips but when they do start making sense you'll be glad to have had them.
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What would one do with that information, other than go mad?
You won't know what to do with it until you have it. Plus is not really information that you think about, it's more like insights that need to be understood; at first it will probably trigger some thinking and analyzing, but you'll eventually realize that the thinking actually needs to stop for you to "get" whatever it is the mushrooms are trying to tell you.
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Its not like I can (or would want to) join the mushroom army in their fight against the reptilians (figuratively).
Don't bury your head in the sand man, that can only work for so long.
I'm not trying to be judgmental or anything, is just sounds strange that you're turning down the opportunity for some potentially meaningful insights. If at the end they end up being just random thoughts or ideas that have no basis in reality, then you won't really loose anything.
thanks for this reply; you are spot on. I've just been kind of weak in the head lately...there was a time when I would have welcomed this type of information with open arms, but for whatever reason I felt that I needed to resist, or that the info wasn't for me. Though I may never come across pure psilocybin again, when I get around to smoking dmt again or trying ayahuasca, I will remember and hopefully heed your advice.
again, thanks for your perspective
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Vector]
#13330368 - 10/13/10 11:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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ill say basically what i said on the other thread.
i was under the impression that crystal psilocybin degraded ridiculously fast in crystal form. and the extraction isnt hard
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: k00laid]
#13330384 - 10/13/10 11:18 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Pure psilocybin while asleep? [Re: Vector]
#17048459 - 10/17/12 01:29 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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i really enjoyed reading about the whole stepping into eden thing i've felt the same with sally, and before entering dreamstates, also i had experienced a long movie in my dreams at one point were is was vivid and not my own voice, it was saying a massive war, beheaded king, the collision of two planets nearby a homeplanet, beautiful motifs of peasent and servants on the move from one location to the next, it was an ancient war story with humanlike figures yet more then one race of which, (as in asian orient to early african features) and such. So it seemed later under the effects of a 3.5g trip with some homies, that it was in itself a tool for navegating some of the profound insights. as in the idea that man is only a shell for thought, and these races, had learned such things, basically i feel like the story was real in spacetime and had relevance to humans and the mushroom. also saw and heard a ufo, extremely darkseeming forces in the darkness, and had my shit disloged from my ass in fear while trying to sleep that same night. ( when a little ship lands beside your pillow unloads then crawls in ear and then announces you think you know fear while a demonic idea, barely visible but clearly heard breathed deep down my neck; i lunged for the door screaming then found a peacful place to rest my head for the night with friends chattering endlessly. the neat part was the ufo seemed like a gift placed there for us as an option had we wanted to as a group board, it would ahve been ours to use and roam the space. lol
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lol you resurrected this thread to say that? doesn't even have anything do with what this thread was about.
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