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Drama Queens
    #7733219 - 12/08/07 01:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Just got my seeds today for my Drama Queen strain of Papaver Somniferum... I can't wait!

I'm not really sure how this particular strain ranks as far as potency goes, but I'm really growing them because they're beautiful, and getting nodded is just going to be a pleasant side effect :smile:



Yay!


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7737281 - 12/09/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i like your thinking.:smirk:


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7737424 - 12/09/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Those are nice... here's a sample of what I grew this past summer. Supposed to be giganthemums but I obviously mislabeled the bag.



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Re: Drama Queens [Re: neuro]
    #7737621 - 12/09/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they are one of the more beautiful poppies. :thumbup:


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7738438 - 12/09/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Very nice. My personal favorite is Persian Blue. They have beauty and potency.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
    #7742139 - 12/10/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone know how the potency is on these? they said to expect heights anywhere from 30"-40"+ so it could be a decent yield....


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7745380 - 12/11/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they are good. the pod size is smaller then other varieties. however being raised for ornamentals they produce more pods and for a longer peroid of time. they are also more tolerant of heat, and stay shorter.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: neuro]
    #7747918 - 12/12/07 02:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Those are nice... here's a sample of what I grew this past summer. Supposed to be giganthemums but I obviously mislabeled the bag.






I recently acquired some seed that was supposed to be giganthemums but weren't. They look exactly like what you've got there. Weird


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: Shroomeup]
    #7749122 - 12/12/07 12:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, we're going to be starting this indoors in about a week along with some tobacco and maybe some other herbs. I'll be sure to update everyone about how it's going/ pester you with stupid questions :grin:


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7749271 - 12/12/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds good. Hope it turns out good for ya. Pods are interesting ornaments.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7749561 - 12/12/07 02:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How and Why are you starting pods indoors? What geographical area are you in right now?

Generally starting pods indoors to eventually transplant outside does not work too well unless you can plant your whole flat. And an complete indoor crop is a disaster since most don't have the means for climate control and other factors. There's many other issues to consider as well.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: neuro]
    #7749606 - 12/12/07 02:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well outside right now it's about 10 degrees with 3 feet of snow, and will probably stay that way until late May.

Still think I should grow outside? :wink:


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7749627 - 12/12/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Heeeellll NO!


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7750896 - 12/12/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I certainly don't, but I'm interested to see how exactly you plan on growing these indoors. They like LOTS of light, good undisturbed ground with soil that's got a healthy dose of sand in it. Every indoor grow attempt I've ever seen of poppies was an utter failure. Unless you have a built in greenhouse and plant directly into the ground I'm not quite sure what you plan on doing.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: neuro]
    #7751460 - 12/12/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ummm....grow it like pot?

I mean, I'm not trying to be an opium dealer, we're just fucking around.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7752634 - 12/13/07 06:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

>>I mean, I'm not trying to be an opium dealer, we're just fucking around.

I realize that.


>>Ummm....grow it like pot?

Have you actually done that with poppies before? Because I'll lay down five bucks that the plants that germinate begin to fall over within 2 weeks of germination. Those that do live will be no larger than 7 - 14 inches, flower and create miniscule pods within another month.

You see poppies like a varying set of temperatures during their growth cycle. That's why I say that. When they're rosettes, either having been a dormant rosette through a milder winter or a new sprouted plant that is currently a rosette, less direct sun and milder temperatures are good. And just as with pot lignification of its stem is key, thus environmental wind stimulus would be helpful but is not totally necessary. As time progresses they do well with the change of temperature and daylight length. That's why those that plant too late or indoors end up with stunted tiny poppies.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: neuro]
    #7752957 - 12/13/07 09:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, my only experience with poppies is when they come up in the spring (self sowing in our meadow for who knows how many years) and then grow on their own. we give them water, but that's pretty much it.
Thanks for the pointers though. It doesn't really seem to me to be too complicated honestly, varying temps and wind stimulus could be pretty easy to simulate indoors, but what were you saying about them falling over?


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: neuro]
    #7760926 - 12/15/07 03:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they grow perfectly fine with hid's(600's or higher).


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: durban_poison]
    #7761766 - 12/15/07 01:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

anybody know what the falling down part was about? that seems like something I'll probably want to avoid....


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7762071 - 12/15/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

its the same thing with MJ. Plants thicken their stems as a response to being bent over from the wind. So, if there is no wind source your plants stems will be weak and unable to support the top of the plant causing them to topple.

Really though this is an easy fix, an oscillating fan blowing gently on your plants will simulate the wind and help strengthen your stems. You can also go in and lightly shake and bend the stems to stimulate the growth.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: coda]
    #7762868 - 12/15/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Oh ok, I was aware of that, but I thought he might be alluding to some root condition I'm not aware of.

Thanks!


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7764519 - 12/16/07 01:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

actually its not the same thing as mj plants. all poppies lay down. they sprout then shoot up then lay down. usually in nature, the rains cause soil to cover the shoot. in a indoor environment its much more evident because there arent rains. anyone who has grown a sufficent amount of indoor or outdoor poppies is familar with this behavior. the shoot actually turns into root. any growth above the cotyledons will be thick robust growth. then the root will gain strength and girth. mj never does this it continues to grow vertically. i believe this is a survival trait the poppies carry from living in "rough" soil conditions. if you are talking about them laying down to flourescents then light could be the issue but i have seen good vegatative results from them also. laying down is nothing to be alarmed by they all do it even in the fullest sun.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7781213 - 12/20/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ApJunkie, sorry for the late reply. Referring to the roots before was when I was thinking you might start them indoors and then transplant them outside. They don't always take well to that unless you have a good transplant medium to start them in. Other than that damping off is always a threat.

I hadn't considered that you'd actually use HID or HPS lights for poppies indoors. I had been alluding to that in my previous posts I suppose. I don't see it as practical and hence why anyone would want to do it. Sheerly because it seems like a waste of electricity for what would end up being a tiny yield of plants unless you've got a huge space and tons of lights. Which then incurs more electricity.

So instead of casual growing you're willing to setup something semi-elaborate to grow poppies? I don't see why you'd want to do this. Hypothetically what would be the goal of this and how big of a space are you trying to do this in then?

Seems more practical to just grow them outside in my opinion and experience.


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: neuro]
    #7782270 - 12/20/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Woah woah woah, I never said anything about MH or HPS bulbs for these. I'm not going to invest $400 in a light just for some poppies. I have a nice 4 foot flourescent light fixture with natural daylight bulbs that I'm going to use.
Didn't I say it wasn't going to be elaborate?


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Re: Drama Queens [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7783183 - 12/20/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Your plans of getting nodded are doomed if you aren't transplanting outside.. Poppies need a lot of light to grow well.


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