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Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people?
    #7732700 - 12/08/07 10:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Mike Huckabee once advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased federal funding in the search for a cure and said homosexuality could "pose a dangerous public health risk."



Aww shucks.

As a candidate for a U.S. Senate seat in 1992, Huckabee answered 229 questions submitted to him by The Associated Press. Besides a quarantine, Huckabee suggested that Hollywood celebrities fund AIDS research from their own pockets, rather than federal health agencies.

"If the federal government is truly serious about doing something with the AIDS virus, we need to take steps that would isolate the carriers of this plague," Huckabee wrote.

"It is difficult to understand the public policy towards AIDS. It is the first time in the history of civilization in which the carriers of a genuine plague have not been isolated from the general population, and in which this deadly disease for which there is no cure is being treated as a civil rights issue instead of the true health crisis it represents."

The AP submitted the questionnaire to both candidates; only Huckabee responded. Incumbent Sen. Dale Bumpers won his four term; Huckabee was elected lieutenant governor the next year and became governor in 1996.

When asked about AIDS research in 1992, Huckabee complained that AIDS research received an unfair share of federal dollars when compared to cancer, diabetes and heart disease.

"In light of the extraordinary funds already being given for AIDS research, it does not seem that additional federal spending can be justified," Huckabee wrote. "An alternative would be to request that multimillionaire celebrities, such as Elizabeth Taylor (,) Madonna and others who are pushing for more AIDS funding be encouraged to give out of their own personal treasuries increased amounts for AIDS research."

Let them queer lovers support their own.

Huckabee did not return messages left with his campaign.

When Huckabee wrote his answers in 1992, it was common knowledge that AIDS could not be spread by casual contact. In late 1991, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said there were 195,718 AIDS patients in the country and that 126,159 people had died from the syndrome.

The nation had an increased awareness of AIDS at the time because pro basketball star Magic Johnson had recently disclosed he carried the virus responsible for it. Johnson retired but returned to the NBA briefly during the 1994-95 season.

Since becoming a presidential candidate this year, Huckabee has supported increased federal funding for AIDS research through the National Institutes of Health.

"My administration will be the first to have an overarching strategy for dealing with HIV and AIDS here in the United States, with a partnership between the public and private sectors that will provide necessary financing and a realistic path toward our goals," Huckabee said in a statement posted on his campaign Web site last month.

Also in the wide-ranging AP questionnaire in 1992, Huckabee said, "I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural, and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."

A Southern Baptist preacher, Huckabee has been a favorite among social conservatives for his vocal opposition to gay marriage. In 2003, Huckabee said that the U.S. Supreme Court was probably right to strike down anti-sodomy laws, but that states still should be able to restrict things such as gay marriage or domestic partner benefits.

"What people do in the privacy of their own lives as adults is their business," Huckabee said. "If they bring it into the public square and ask me as a taxpayer to support it or to endorse it, then it becomes a matter of public discussion and discourse."

By ANDREW DeMILLO, Associated Press Writer

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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: zorbman]
    #7732755 - 12/08/07 11:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Huckabee is Clinton without the skirt. He wants to spend your money to make my life better and enforce his own moral values on both of us. His record speaks for itself.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: zorbman]
    #7734088 - 12/08/07 05:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

comparing aids with the plague is so asinine it hurts my brain to even
type this sentence.

Mike, a gay man just touched you....



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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: afoaf]
    #7734208 - 12/08/07 05:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

While his ideas of gays are revolting, it should not be the federal government funding research to fight it.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7734321 - 12/08/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I'd take federal funding of aids and cancer research over
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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7735291 - 12/09/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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While his ideas of gays are revolting, it should not be the federal government funding research to fight it.




I agree. It should all be private companies and they can jack the prices up and get paid. That's why I am planning on working for them, LOL.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: downforpot]
    #7736819 - 12/09/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Minstrel said:
While his ideas of gays are revolting, it should not be the federal government funding research to fight it.




I agree. It should all be private companies and they can jack the prices up and get paid. That's why I am planning on working for them, LOL.




That's exactly what happens when the government takes charge in such matters. Buddy companies to the tools in congress get awarded huge contracts and will make regulatory restrictions to stop competition.

Is it so inconceivable that the research can be done by universities?


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7737868 - 12/09/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ummm, that is what private companies do TODAY. They make sure patents stay for as long as possible and send a SHITLOAD of lobbyists to washington to get it done, lol. Then they jack the prices up. God damn, I love that industry. They do it because they have the money to do it...

Which universities? The ones funded by the government? You also forget that scientists get paid more elsewhere, why the fuck are they gonna work for universities?

Why do you think I'm gonna go straight for private companies? You think I'm gonna work for universities all my life? I'm already gonna do research in the summer at the local uni, work in the labs... FUCK THAT. I wanna get paid. Unless the government starts pumping more dough into the universities... well, they can go fuck themselves. I must get paid,.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Seuss]
    #7737897 - 12/09/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Huckabee is Clinton without the skirt. He wants to spend your money to make my life better and enforce his own moral values on both of us. His record speaks for itself.





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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7738389 - 12/09/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

huckabee is just saying what most conservatives are thinking.

i don't like huckabee but at least he's got the balls to say what's on his mind..

besides.. all that shit was like AGES ago when AIDS was still around. He was probably just jumping on whatever aids bandwagon people were telling him to jump on, not really thinking about it.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7739203 - 12/10/07 03:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> i don't like huckabee but at least he's got the balls to say what's on his mind..

That doesn't mean his message is correct. Hitler had the balls to say what was on his mind, but not many people consider Hitler a good guy.

> all that shit was like AGES ago when AIDS was still around

Ummm, last I checked, AIDS is still around...


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Seuss]
    #7739274 - 12/10/07 05:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

There are people on this board that like Hitler.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Seuss]
    #7739459 - 12/10/07 07:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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That doesn't mean his message is correct. Hitler had the balls to say what was on his mind, but not many people consider Hitler a good guy.




No doubt. Like I said, I DONT AGREE WITH HIM. I DON'T LIKE HIN., but hey... at least you know where Hilter stood on the issues :P

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Ummm, last I checked, AIDS is still around...




Sorry... i mistyped. Looks like I accidentally cut off half my sentance.

I meant to say that was ages ago when all the ignorant hysteria about AIDS was more pervasive than is now. He probably feels different about it now, I'm sure... but I haven't seen any news sources lately that have bothered to ask him anything about his position now.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7740676 - 12/10/07 01:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^^^^  *chuckle*  :smile:


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Seuss]
    #7740685 - 12/10/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

But c'mon.. ya gotta admit.. are you really suprised at those quotes? You know damn well that all the conservatives up there in the repub debates go home and bitch to their families about how all gay people should be shipped to an island.

Just no one will say it in public... except for maybe Ann and Rush... and eventually Hannity will get so old and looney he'll just start rambling it out.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7742932 - 12/10/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That is known as "damning with faint praise". :tongue:

Where were you when we needed you throughout the Bush admin? :grin:


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: zorbman]
    #7743797 - 12/11/07 03:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> That is known as "damning with faint praise". :tongue:

Unfortunately, it is also fairly accurate.  Look at the church that just split off in California because they were upset about gays being given equal rights in the church.  Gd forbid that a church show compassion.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7743883 - 12/11/07 06:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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...and eventually Hannity will get so old and looney he'll just start rambling it out.




Speaking of, I guess Hannity and FOX have been attacking Huckabee pretty well. :smirk:


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: fireworks_god]
    #7744201 - 12/11/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Speaking of, I guess Hannity and FOX have been attacking Huckabee pretty well




Of course, Guiliani is their golden boy.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: downforpot]
    #7744290 - 12/11/07 09:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Ummm, that is what private companies do TODAY. They make sure patents stay for as long as possible and send a SHITLOAD of lobbyists to washington to get it done, lol. Then they jack the prices up. God damn, I love that industry. They do it because they have the money to do it...

Which universities? The ones funded by the government? You also forget that scientists get paid more elsewhere, why the fuck are they gonna work for universities?

Why do you think I'm gonna go straight for private companies? You think I'm gonna work for universities all my life? I'm already gonna do research in the summer at the local uni, work in the labs... FUCK THAT. I wanna get paid. Unless the government starts pumping more dough into the universities... well, they can go fuck themselves. I must get paid,.




Thank you for the profanity; it's nice to know you can be so civil. I DO work at a university lab and GET PAID, and handsomely, given I've not even graduated yet. It's rewarding work. Not all scientists are the same, they are not all driven by money.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7744476 - 12/11/07 10:51 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

If they don't get funding they can't do research. Not all money drives are related to personal profit.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: zorbman]
    #7744716 - 12/11/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, Mike Huckabee unabashedly hates gay people.

As do the majority of Conservatives.

This should not come as a surprise to anyone.

Not only does he hate gay people, but he is apparently almost criminally ignorant about basic scientific concepts and ideas. On "Fox News Sunday", he said...

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Huckabee acknowledged the prevailing scientific view then, and since, that the virus that causes AIDS is not spread through casual contact, but said that was not certain.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/11/huckabee.aids.ap/index.html




Are you fucking kidding me?

And these idiot Jesus-Freaks want to give this guy the keys to the whole shebang? I think if 7.75 years of Bush & Co have taught us anything, its that requiring some basic level of intelligence from your Supreme Leader is probably a good starting point in any presidential discussion.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7745495 - 12/11/07 03:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Aside from your gratuitous slander that most conservatives hate fudge-packing fruit flies, Huckabee is a fucking retard and the favored choice of Democrats to win the nomination. They can't lose. He's a tax and spend lib himself. I will vote Democrat if he gets the nomination, even Hillary, just so the wreckage of a liberal presidency will be tied to a Democrat. Every time I hear the phrase "evangelical Christian" I want to puke. Not because they are retards (which they are) but because they have somehow managed to infest Conservatism like a swarm of candirus. They aren't even conservative. They want to tell you how to act in your own living room and bedroom. THAT isn't my idea of conservative.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7745649 - 12/11/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

> He's a tax and spend lib himself.

Agree with you completely.  The guy likes to spend your money to make my life better as defined by his moral values.

> I will vote Democrat if he gets the nomination, even Hillary

Ouch, I think my ears are bleeding.  :wink:


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Seuss]
    #7746079 - 12/11/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I will vote Democrat if he gets the nomination, even Hillary




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    #7746110 - 12/11/07 05:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I will vote Democrat if he gets the nomination, even Hillary




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Holy shit, zappa said that!!

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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7746141 - 12/11/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

see? this is what happens when iowa gets to pick the candidates. we get a liberal in republican clothing and a dynastic clinton on the democrat side. i just hope america doesn't listen to the corn farmers this time around.

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Aside from your gratuitous slander that most conservatives hate fudge-packing fruit flies, Huckabee is a fucking retard and the favored choice of Democrats to win the nomination. They can't lose. He's a tax and spend lib himself. I will vote Democrat if he gets the nomination, even Hillary, just so the wreckage of a liberal presidency will be tied to a Democrat. Every time I hear the phrase "evangelical Christian" I want to puke. Not because they are retards (which they are) but because they have somehow managed to infest Conservatism like a swarm of candirus. They aren't even conservative. They want to tell you how to act in your own living room and bedroom. THAT isn't my idea of conservative.




so zappa thinks we should be able to tell an entire country(iraq) how to live their lives but opposes our government telling its people how to live. funny...


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: SlashOZ]
    #7748411 - 12/12/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Last time I checked the US Gov't wasn't stoning gay people in the city square, ala the Taliban.


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Re: Does Mike Huckabee hate gay people? [Re: Minstrel]
    #7748631 - 12/12/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Ummm, that is what private companies do TODAY. They make sure patents stay for as long as possible and send a SHITLOAD of lobbyists to washington to get it done, lol. Then they jack the prices up. God damn, I love that industry. They do it because they have the money to do it...

Which universities? The ones funded by the government? You also forget that scientists get paid more elsewhere, why the fuck are they gonna work for universities?

Why do you think I'm gonna go straight for private companies? You think I'm gonna work for universities all my life? I'm already gonna do research in the summer at the local uni, work in the labs... FUCK THAT. I wanna get paid. Unless the government starts pumping more dough into the universities... well, they can go fuck themselves. I must get paid,.




Thank you for the profanity; it's nice to know you can be so civil. I DO work at a university lab and GET PAID, and handsomely, given I've not even graduated yet. It's rewarding work. Not all scientists are the same, they are not all driven by money.




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