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Invisibleemex
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Registered: 07/24/02
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theory on time...
    #773119 - 07/24/02 01:01 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

hm im not sure exactly how to say this so im just gonna say it =). i was thinking about time recently and well i think most people can agree time is always variable...best put by einstein when he said give a kid some candy and 1 min will seem like a few seconds...put the kid on a burning stove and 1 min will seem like 1 hr (or something like that) well what if we all felt time differently? what if 1 min for me seemed like 1 hr for you. theres no way of knowing how fast time goes by for each of us cuz we cant go into other peoples heads and because of how we measure time using seconds and minutes 1 minute could seem like 1 second or 1 hr. hmmmmm i would go on but im not sure how to explain this so ill just shut up...=)


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I had not expected fear, but terror came with her
and tho I sought a dying moment, she showed me a dying eternity
and tho I sought to bring wisdom into the real, she tore the real from me
and I was no more, and in unbeing, I lost my fear


Edited by emex (07/24/02 01:32 PM)


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Re: theory on time... [Re: emex]
    #773141 - 07/24/02 01:11 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

>best put by einstein when he said give a kid some candy and 1 min will seem like a few mins...put the kid on a burning stove and 1 min will seem like 1 hr

Einstein said that? What a wierdo...








Edited by TheShroomHermit (07/24/02 01:14 PM)


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Invisibleemex
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Re: theory on time... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #773210 - 07/24/02 01:33 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

heh i made a lil typo in there but i just corrected...sorry for the confusion =)


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and tho I sought a dying moment, she showed me a dying eternity
and tho I sought to bring wisdom into the real, she tore the real from me
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Re: theory on time... [Re: emex]
    #773225 - 07/24/02 01:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i think of it this way.
every moment that ever happened or ever will happen is in one moment, but our brains can't handle everything at once, so it seperates it out into time.
i don't know how time is for you.
i don't know how apples taste to you.
in fact, everybody might as well be in their own universe for that matter.
but we aren't. we are here, together. so when you say "one mintue" you mean one minute as it is to you. but when you say "one minute" i think of one mintue as it is to me. so in essence, it may be mind boggling, but it doesn't really matter since on the outside we see the same thing. good thought though.
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Invisibleemex
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Re: theory on time... [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #773249 - 07/24/02 01:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i agree wit cha. i believe everything does happen at once and if you see it how it should happen it is beautiful...everything fits into place. time doesnt even really exist. its no more real than feet or inches or gallons...its just a measurement. if time wasnt invented we wouldnt know how to rely on it and we wouldnt have the feeling of time. time was just invented to make us more "efficient".


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and tho I sought to bring wisdom into the real, she tore the real from me
and I was no more, and in unbeing, I lost my fear


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Re: theory on time... [Re: emex]
    #773263 - 07/24/02 01:45 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

Time is, indeed, a very strange thing.

i think most people can agree time is always variable...

...what if 1 min for me seemed like 1 hr for you. theres no way of knowing how fast time goes by for each of us cuz we cant go into other peoples heads


I think you are correct when you say that time can be variable (our perception of time, that is), and you are correct that we cannot go into other people's heads; but I do not think it is possible for what seems like one minute to one person to seem like an hour to another.

Since we were born, we have been raised into a world of clocks and calendars... Each one of us learns to categorize time into seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, and years...

We cannot perceive time with any of our senses (with the exception of looking at a clock of course), but I think there is some sort of time-perceiving device ingrained in our heads.

For example, if someone asked you to tell them when a minute was up (without counting in your head or anything like that), you would probably be able to give a pretty accurate guess as to when a minute had ended. Also, have you ever set a timer for something, left the room, and then returned back to the room around the same time that the timer was set to go off? I know this has happened to me, and I think it also shows we have some sort of time-perceiving device ingrained in our head.

What I think is interesting, though, is how our time perception can sometimes change (as you said). The old addage "time flies when you're having fun" comes to mind. Usually when we are doing something fun, or have our attention focused on something intently (TV for example), time can seem to go by very quickly.

There are also instances when time can seem to pass very slowly. An example that comes to mind is when we are sitting in a room at a doctor's office, waiting for the doctor to arrive. I know time in this situation always seems to drag by for me

Certain drugs can also change our perception of time. There've been times when I've been on certain substances and literally felt like everything was in slow motion. This sort of thing can also happen, say, in the seconds before impact during an iminent car crash. You know you are about to collide with the vehicle in front of you within seconds, yet it seems to take forever to occur.

I think all of these situations might have to do with chemical changes in our brain affecting that built in time-perceiving device that I spoke of.

I found this article dealing with the experience and perception of time. It is a bit lengthy, but seems to have some really good information!


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Invisiblebuttonion
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Re: theory on time... [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #773341 - 07/24/02 02:13 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

i think of it this way.
every moment that ever happened or ever will happen is in one moment, but our brains can't handle everything at once, so it seperates it out into time.


Wow, that's a mindfuck. I think I'll contemplate that during my next trip. Thanks!


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Concepts which have been proved to be useful in ordering things easily acquire such an authority over us that we forget their human origins and accept them as invariable.- Albert Einstein


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Re: theory on time... [Re: buttonion]
    #773383 - 07/24/02 02:26 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

hey genius....

i think people's perceptions of time are generally well aligned. if one person's perception of "1 minute" was really "1 hour" then i imagine no one would ever get to work on time and people would have difficulty having conversations since your compatriot might take an hour (only a few seconds in his mind) to respond, etc. also, if you have ever had your perception of time altered by drugs you know that it is impossible to actually do an eternity of things in 1 minute even if that minute really does feel like an eternity.



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Invisiblebuttonion
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Re: theory on time... [Re: ]
    #773529 - 07/24/02 03:22 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

...and I think that was meant for emex?


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Concepts which have been proved to be useful in ordering things easily acquire such an authority over us that we forget their human origins and accept them as invariable.- Albert Einstein


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Re: theory on time... [Re: emex]
    #773941 - 07/24/02 06:20 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

I dont know what time is, but here are some thoughts:

- The faster you think, the slower time appears to you. On some drugs, when you feel time slow down, it is because your brain is operating on overdrive. You have more thoughts per time unit.

- We travel forward in time, but aren't able to go backwards. Therefore, time seems to be only "half" a dimension. Or, we can only access half of it.


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Anonymous

Re: theory on time... [Re: pattern]
    #774013 - 07/24/02 06:44 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

rrrrrriiiiiiggghhhhhtt.ttt.t
i think im gonna trip out in this corner for a while.

i need more vespian gas...VESPIAN GAS.. .


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    #774041 - 07/24/02 06:52 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)



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Anonymous

Re: theory on time... [Re: PsilosKube]
    #774134 - 07/24/02 07:19 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

well there is the theory of the mobius loop.....


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Re: theory on time... [Re: ]
    #774308 - 07/24/02 08:18 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

vespian gas? another starcraft junkie! whoo hoo! play you on the web sometime...
anyways...i hope that plato guy reads this so he can correct me...

was it plato or aristotle that said we are like specks of dust in the wind? time is winds, and we move with it, floating along like specks of dust. medidtate on that with your favorite drug. it gets deeper the longer you think about it.


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Re: theory on time... [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #774320 - 07/24/02 08:25 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

was it plato or aristotle that said we are like specks of dust in the wind?

I think it was Kansas that said that, actually!

"All we are is dust in the wind..."


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Anonymous

Re: theory on time... [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #774322 - 07/24/02 08:27 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

no i am not another starcraft junkie, i thought i made that up. maybe i heard it somewhere. anyways fuck you


Edited by Anonymous (07/24/02 09:29 PM)


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Re: theory on time... [Re: ]
    #774351 - 07/24/02 08:38 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

LOL...well man, ya should go buy the game and get on the web and play me. it's a reefing blast braa!


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Anonymous

Re: theory on time... [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #774458 - 07/24/02 09:28 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

the phrase your thinking of was by Socrates


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InvisiblethePatient
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Re: theory on time... [Re: whiterastahippie]
    #774554 - 07/24/02 10:42 PM (15 years, 2 months ago)

A movie i recommend watching that i think relates to this subject is the "Time Machine". Not only is the plot good, but it does a superb job of showing how we are just specs of dust in the wind. It really puts things into perspective. After watching the movie, things i considered a big deal didnt seem as big. We are all just caught up in a chaotic whirlpool we call life.


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Re: theory on time... [Re: emex]
    #774868 - 07/25/02 04:47 AM (15 years, 2 months ago)

there's no such thing as time. everything that has, is and will happen already has. our universe is just a huge smear across the void and you might imagine it as an explosion, then implosion. it all happened that fast, but we are riding it out subjectively so it seems to go much slower... it's all relative...


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