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AlCapwn
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I think the problem is that the psychedelic experience is a very personal, private thing. There are only a few visceral commonalities in trips, and these are the only things people can relate with.
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CosmicFunGuy
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: yageman]
#7732330 - 12/08/07 09:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Best post I've seen on this site in ages Yage, i've stopped frequenting everyday due to the lack of interesting posts.
I commend you on your effort to better this place with a very meaningful drunken insight.
i remember a time when this forum had some substance to it, now there's mostly substance abuse and childishness.
i shall heed the warning you have left us here as a reminder the next time i post, but thank you for putting a smile on my face today, because i thought i was the only one who saw it.
i am not alone
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sam420
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: Infested]
#7732334 - 12/08/07 09:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only thing worse than those who disrespect psychedelics are the elitists who think other 'less worthy' people shouldn't take them. If it doesn't affect them in the same way they assume they are missing out on a vast realm of knowledge... Did it ever occur to you that perhaps some people have magnificent breakthroughs in insight even *without* the use of psychedelics? Some of the revelations on mushrooms perhaps are new to you and you just arrogantly assume that if they aren't discussed in depth they are being missed by other people, when perhaps they just take some of this knowledge for granted, or don't feel like revealing their soul to an over-analytical trip enthusiast?
I don't disagree with your point really but there are different kinds of smart, you learn that with maturity. Maybe *you* should grow up.
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Infested
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: sam420]
#7732394 - 12/08/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't disagree with your point either.
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akb112211
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: Infested]
#7735549 - 12/09/07 05:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Figures, since this thread originated, it has been allowed to drop to the second page, being replaced by the very posts that it is questioning. How surprising. Its not even ironic. I think this part of the forum has run its course and evolved. Perhaps its time to move on? What are the options? Those of us who really care and desire to have interesting and stimulating discussions can find each other on different areas of the forum.
I enjoy this place, but I feel that the Psych Exp. Forum is like flipping through tv channels, stopping to soak up some cheap entertainment. Of course, not being able to resist joining in from time to time. Maybe its time for us all to abstain from the forums for some time and then determine where to go from there.
The other day I wrote something to myself saying more or less..."do your best not to indulge in base and inferior things." For example, porn, cheap entertainment, news headlines on aol, yahoo,etc..what else. Oh, one specific example. About this guy who shot and killed 8 people and himself in the shopping mall. His desire was fame right? Why the f_ck then do the police and media outlets release his suicide note and video of the shooting? I resisted indulging myself by reading about this story any further and did not watch the video. I refuse to be lead around on a leash. Some of you may not have the same issues I have in indulgence, but I believe this is something that contributes to the current state of the Shroomery. So, yes, I think there are too many immature people on these forums.
Also, I am aware that I have not been here for a long time and I do not truly know the evolution of the Shroomery. But I know what I am experiencing here. And I do find a deeper part of myself dissatisfied with what goes on here. Perhaps I am misdirected in what I am looking for. Who knows? Any opinions?
Also, do the founders of this place care about the state of this place? Do the moderators care? Has this been the objective of the Shroomery from the beginning? Are we really just the observed fixture in some sociological experiment? This place is not going to change, is it? Is it time to move on? Start a new board? Go to Edot? Nah, they are all headed in the same direction. This is the state of the internet!
regards, AKB
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RobMarley420
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: yageman]
#7735750 - 12/09/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yageman said: Is this site fucking weird or what?
Is this part of the message board so often generally annoying for anyone else? Does anyone wonder, "why the hell do I come to this site EVER"?
Yeah, it seems like the Psychedelic Experience has changed alot over the last 2 years. I don't know if it's just me that's changed, from being a noob and finding all those dumb posts interesting to being more experienced and having all ready seen and heard it all, or if it's just the people that post here that have changed, more noobish, childish, stupid people. 
When I first registered here at the shroomery I spent almost all my time in the Psychedelic Experience, now I barely post in here.
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yageman said: I made this post to encourage those of us who have the desire to communicate about the psychedelic experience, to do just that.
No matter how fucking interesting or weird. BECAUSE, this place has alot of good minds that frequent the site. There is no reason why you shouldnt share your crazy shit instead of just giving advise. More nutty, psycho, schizophrenic, mind twisting posts are needed here.
Since you asked, I'll start a tread with a somewhat weird, nutty, psychedelic topic - Seriously believing you've gone to another dimension or some sort of spirit world on psychedelics.
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Dagnus
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My problem with some people that take drugs is pretty obvious. They do them so they can get "fucked up" or just not be sober. Is being sober that damn bad? That's what life is naturally, learn to live with it or try to cope with the hardships by being in a fucked up fog your whole life. Im not gonna try to pretend im innocent, i smoke weed all the time, and im not sure if that goes against my philosophy or not.
But i cant stand to see people treat psychedelics like theyre just another thing to get them out of being sober. Theyre a powerful tool to expanding your mind and making you a better person, at least in my experience. Treat them like they are. I know that was a little off topic, my fault.
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mentalIMAGE
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: Dagnus]
#7736521 - 12/09/07 12:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yageman, props. I seem to find myself always getting worked up when I read your posts, because sometimes IMO you come off like a pretentious ass, HOWEVER after reading that motherfucker of a post I'm beginning to hold you in high regard.
When I joined the Shroomery, I was in pretty much the same mindset as Apollyphelion, being that PE would be about discussing all the fucked up shit I had read about in the trip reports on Erowid.
I got that far, but it never seemed to pass that. Now, enter the dark age of PE, and this is the only relevent thread it seems. Too many kids just wanting to talk about colours moving and swirling and dancing into, though, and upon each other, and all that superficial bullshit. It may seem like there's no one to save us from becoming a cess pool of novelty, but look at this thread. We're all here and we can make a difference upon PE.
The question is..
Why don't we?
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yageman
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: mentalIMAGE]
#7738211 - 12/09/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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mentalIMAGE said: I seem to find myself always getting worked up when I read your posts, because sometimes IMO you come off like a pretentious ass, HOWEVER after reading that motherfucker of a post I'm beginning to hold you in high regard.
Well, im glad people took my post the right way.
IMO, I at times come off as a pretentious person. Thats because what I am saying is important to me and there is no doubt it resonates with some people, and god bless/fuck all the people who it doesnt resonate with.
So ya, Thanks for the interesting responses. I came here to learn about ayahuasca after effects, because I had already experienced ayahuasca many times and and had been tripping for years before ayahuasca. I didnt get what I came for to say the least.
I very well could have made this post two years ago and it still would have resonated with some people. These days, it just seems a thread like this is slightly more needed or even wanted than before.
Im going to make a thread about "where visuals come from and why they are the way they are". Lets see how fast that subject disappears? Is there more to them than pretty colors? Do they inherently mean something? Do they mean something very special? What do they have to do with cognition? What do they reveal about human consciousness? What do they have to do with audio visuals? Why dont some people see the geometries as easily?
I have my own thoughts about this, but im going to make a thread about it to see what other people think.
Then I will spew my weird info into the thread and talk to those I resonate with, and those I dont resonate with, but probably less-so.
Those are the kinds of threads that really interest me. So I will follow my own advise and make that thread instead of telling some guy about the color of mushrooms, or the amount that it takes to "trip".
Thanks for being cool people. Im so damn surprized nobody went off on me. I fall back on entertainment value on late nights here at the shroomery, especially after a night of kill bill, a pingpong extravaganza with afew fucked up friends, and more beers than I should have drank. I think its cool that nobody was really offended, and nobody took this the wrong way.
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Edited by yageman (12/09/07 08:45 PM)
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g00ru
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: yageman]
#7738242 - 12/09/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with you, The Shroomery could be so much more.
But sometimes I am reading these forums and somebody says something that truly amazes me. Every now and then, you come across somebody who really does "understand." And as far as that goes, I don't think there are very many places better than The Shroomery.
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yageman
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: g00ru]
#7738255 - 12/09/07 08:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya, the shroomery is a really cool place in that way.
There are quite afew gems.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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AlCapwn
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Re: sort of a poll, but not really [Re: yageman]
#7738459 - 12/09/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe we could have a serious business board where stupid irrelevant posts are deleted. It could be like P&S except for general things that don't fit in the other topic specific boards. I'd also gladly moderate.
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