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being awkward around good friends
    #7730794 - 12/07/07 09:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

whenever Im tripping around one of my good friends lately, it gets intensely awkward. the conversations we have feel really forced and we both stumble over words. the things we talk about seem fake, and it's like we're both trying, when you shouldn't have to try when you're with a good pal. we've been friends for around 8 years now, so there's no reason for either of us to be scared to talk to each other, or even be scared of what the other thinks.

does anyone have any insight, or relate even at all?


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7730810 - 12/07/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Mushrooms definately make me more socially awkward sometimes. Not all though.

It doesn't matter who I'm with, I'll analyze them more than i talk to them, and i tend to just observe their interaction. how how of a dose are we talking here?

Maybe you guys are just so comfortable around each other you find it uncomforable?


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7730822 - 12/07/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

anywhere from 2-4 grams I'd say

and it seems you've got a good point there, maybe it is that we're so comfortable around each other normally, that it somehow gets uncomfortable


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7730859 - 12/07/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, whenever I trip/smoke a lot I get waaaay overanalytical, so having a conversation with.. well, anybody, usually seems "awkward." Also, you're basically insane and you're trying to communicate your thoughts logically.... that's a hard thing to do!


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Pootmaster]
    #7730882 - 12/07/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe you have "feelings" for each other.

No joke.


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Premedman1]
    #7731091 - 12/07/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

This is how mushrooms turn you gay :wink:


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: elmanimal]
    #7731099 - 12/07/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Did you have butt sex?


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7731104 - 12/07/07 10:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Did you have butt sex?




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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Premedman1]
    #7731130 - 12/07/07 10:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

maybe you two respect each other so much, that no words need to be spoken. When you both start to think the silence gets uncomfortable, you force yourself into talking about irrelevant things.


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: MindGorilla]
    #7731160 - 12/07/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Why force a conversation? The silent, introspective time can be the best time of a trip.

Especially around friends, or at least people you can trust to not steal your shit. :awesome:


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7731163 - 12/07/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Seventy said:
does anyone have any insight, or relate even at all?




Odd. For the times I have ingested mushrooms, I seem to be affected opposite of what you describe. I actually care less about what I say to my best friends.


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Desu]
    #7731200 - 12/07/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

no, I don't have feelings for my good friend

it happens to more that just him, it's around other people too. but the problem lies around him, because it's the most troubling

he's the person I trip with, whether he is tripping himself or not, and now I'm scared to because I don't want to get caught in an awkward nightmare


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7731508 - 12/08/07 12:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

feeling awkward on shrooms is a nightmare? I was under the impression that feeling awkward is exactly what shrooms do!


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: kotik]
    #7731870 - 12/08/07 03:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I guess it depends on your view point

it's just we tripped out countless times before that and it was never awkward, and then one night it totally changed. tripping's been awkward ever since


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7731882 - 12/08/07 03:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

perhaps it's a self fulfilling prophecy at this point.


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7731913 - 12/08/07 04:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It's all in your head. Maybe you guys are getting deeper into tripping and you should just have long periods of silence. When I trip with the person I usually acidify myself with, we'll have long periods of silence followed by ridiculously hyperactive and animated conversations.

While it's different with mushrooms, there are a lot of similarities and I think you guys need to learn to just be silent at times.


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7731929 - 12/08/07 04:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It seems so much harder to move towards undifferentiated awareness with others, because more than one person strongly emphasizes the duality of nature. Id say your dawning on some realization of relativity, where somehow, "good" for you is "good" for him, instead of in conflict.

It is proof that something needs to be worked out between you two, some ego clashing, but you don't know what it is. You probably both feel that you are best friends ("how could we be anything else?") but what is best (the limit, absolute, final, etc)? Meditate on this.

I think the great teachers would say that you or both of you are selfishly attatched to a single phase of this friendship from the past good times youve had. Youd have to stop trying to hold on to this, and just relate to this person without this additional label as friend. Its hard, because you have to let your old friend go, face any possibility of the current interaction between the two of you. If you were really friends before, I think you will stay friends though. You just gotta let go.

I say this is what the great teachers would say, because it is theoretical from my standpoint. Actually, writing all this out will hopefully benefit myself as well as you. Ive been in that boat, and I basically withdrew and tried to understand it all from a simpler perspective of just myself, which I dont necessarily think is the correct route. Id say you might wanna lay off the shrooms for a while, and confront it straight.

I see mushrooms as a catalyst for awareness. It doesnt make the coming to harder or easier, it mostly just exagerrates and quickens the process and its possible consequences. You can take it slow and avoid the possible hole you can dig yourself catalyzing yourselves. Or maybe you should both confront it before the trip, and promise to work it out any way possible in the trip? Idk

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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Seventy]
    #7732362 - 12/08/07 09:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Seventy said:
whenever Im tripping around one of my good friends lately, it gets intensely awkward. the conversations we have feel really forced and we both stumble over words. the things we talk about seem fake, and it's like we're both trying, when you shouldn't have to try when you're with a good pal. we've been friends for around 8 years now, so there's no reason for either of us to be scared to talk to each other, or even be scared of what the other thinks.

does anyone have any insight, or relate even at all?




I haven't read the other replies, but here's mine.

Maybe you guys just feel an obligation to talk because you feel that is what you are supposed to be doing. For the chinese it is very normal to not exchange words while eating. I think Americans become very uneasy when there is silence and no communication.

Often when I am on shrooms with my friends, we will not say anything at all because it feels right. Maybe you're just not letting go and feel the need to talk?

That's my two cents.


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: mushroomplume]
    #7732379 - 12/08/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I agree.  The best friends are the ones who you can sit in silence with for 3 hours straight without it being weird.

Why don't you just take the piss out of each other, try to wind him up or something lol, can pass many hours doing that :grin:


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: sam420]
    #7732427 - 12/08/07 09:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Why don't you just take the piss out of each other




:what:
Is that a Scottish thing?


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Premedman1]
    #7732519 - 12/08/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yes, we're excellent at it too :grin:  Taking the piss out of ourselves and others is #1 priorty in life.  Otherwise we might start taking everything too seriously!

Is it an American thing not to? :confused:


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Re: being awkward around good friends [Re: Premedman1]
    #7732919 - 12/08/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i know that problem too well
not only, when tripping, but also sober and especially when stoned on cannabis
just break down the barriers and talk about it!
it will help a lot, cause then both of you know what's going on and there's no need to feel awkward anymore
and even if you do, just tell each other, you can then decide from there what to do (each go to a different place for a couple of minutes for instance)


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