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tyrannicalrex
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DMT/Mimosa
#7707167 - 12/02/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hello there all,I am taking my 6th mimosa/rue trip soon.I use the 190 proof alcohol extract method.(soaked,filtered,dried,then capped,this totally keeps me from puking every time)I have a friend that will be doing this with me,it is their first time.They are VERY experienced trippers,but they have never(knowingly)done this.
I have made a batch of 3g rue,and 12g mimosa,a fairly strong trip.The set will be in a rented cabin in the woods with no other people present,I am taking a few cd's of mixed ambient and such,and a few blinking light trip toys.I have known this person for 12 years and have had several good acid and mushroom trips with them.I need to know some thoughts on if I should give them the whole 12g or not.Any thoughts?
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How heavy were your freinds doses on psyce's? DMT and rue are different from lsd/shrooms so you cant say for sure if they'd fair well BUT if they can handle their shit good then sure, maybe it'll be the time of their lives 
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tyrannicalrex
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I have had some pretty heavy salvia trips with this person.I was just curious as to some others first time 12g doses of mimosa/rue experiences.I have some concern because a recent 2C-E experience left them not trusting me in the trip department.They tripped WAY more than I did on the chem.,(no more for them).I finally got them to agree on a DMT journey,they have been curious about it since I found it a few years ago.They like to trip from time to time as well.
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Maybe thats a bit too strong but as strength of bark varies a fair bit its hard to say.
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Love Cap
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I don't think it's too strong, because with mimosa/rue... even if you think you're tripping too hard at the time, by the time it's over.. it was all worth it and i'm sure they will be satisfied. This stuff is a whole other journey then those research chems.
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Re: DMT/Mimosa [Re: Love Cap]
#7708295 - 12/02/07 08:22 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'd REALLY REALLY REALLY suggest starting them at about 3/4 of the mimosa. 8 grams is usually enough for even experienced users. 12g well ... could easily be too much. I'm saying this from personal experience BTW. I've had 3 hour trips using rue (1 hr normally with caapi instead). I've had very bad trips on rue also. Unlike another person previously said, a bad DMT trip isn't surely something that's going to be good for them afterwards. A bad DMT trip, like any chem, could haunt them for a few days easily.
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but all those bad trips from DMT you learn something from, right? That's how it's traditionally used, not every part of the trip is happy go lucky, to truely pop out, you must go through 'hell' first.
and tyrannicalrex, could you explain your tek for mimosa and rue more? I've never tried that before, i usually just grind up rue seeds in a coffee grinder, sift out the seed husks (takes away stomach pain) and put the inside powder in caps, then I usually just make a tea out of mimosa. (cold water extraction)
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Re: DMT/Mimosa [Re: Love Cap]
#7710243 - 12/03/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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seriously just eat the seeds whole and use a piece of paper to kind funnel it in and swallow its not so bad. Neat that you do a alcohol extract i was thinking of trying that for the sake of it i do like making a brew. When you brew with a circle and then drink you start feeling it and are already on it before you even drink it
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Re: DMT/Mimosa [Re: Love Cap]
#7726082 - 12/06/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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To:LoveCap
I grind the seed and bark matter in a coffee grinder.Then I soak them individually in 190 proof alcohol,I do at least 3 or 4 extractions,use just enough alcohol to cover the matter,and about quarter to a half inch over it in a glass votive candle holder(clear).
I place these in ziplocks carefully so as not to spill in the baggie(keeps it from evaporating).I put in a dark cool place and check it about once or twice a day(stir and mash when checked)I let each soaking go about a day or two.Strain them through two layers of regular square table napkins cut to size of strainer with a circular wire strainer.When filtering I do not let the soaked matter fall out into the strainer till the last filtering,then it is squeezed through the paper on the last one.Do not squeeze too hard or it will break.Take your time.You could squeeze it each time if you would like,I do not feel it is necessary.
I then add each filteration to the previous one in glass dish(separate the rue from the bark),this dish I put in a cabinet and let it evaporate.After the alcohol evaporates completely from the mhrb it will be a purple crystallne substance,this is crushed and placed in gelcaps.After the rue is completely evaporated it leaves an oily residue that can still be scraped and put into gelcaps(can not be kept in gelcaps for long)I may try to set in low-heat oven to dry it next(150-200 degrees F)I have not tried this yet.
I have tried to drink the liquid ayahuasca two times and have experienced nausea.I have done this method(alcohol extraction) 4 times with very minimal stomach upset and practically no nausea,a few tums cured what little there was(1 or two)
I eat the rue cap(s)then wait about an hour to an hour and fifteen mins(30 mins to dissolve,30-45 mins to start working)then I ingest the mhrb extract caps 1 or 2 every ten minutes,this keeps me from getting the slam of it all at once and also prolongs the journey.Foolproof way for me so far.Very enjoyable.
Edited by tyrannicalrex (12/06/07 09:11 PM)
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tyrannicalrex
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To: tjshokk46
I have had this bark for about 3 years,does the potency decrease?I also need to ask how many other psychadellics you have had experience with to get an idea of the reason why the profound heaviness of your trips at this level(12 grams)
I might also need to know your age if that is okay with you.42 years old here,the other one partaking is 50.They have done a LOT of mushroom trips throughout their teens and 20's.Mucho acid trips for both of us also.I am a little apprehensive in doing this many grams myself.The last journey I did was about ten grams(most recent,and friend was sleeping in other room,they knew of my journey and said to wake them if anything was wrong).I had a great journey but I felt it could have been just a little more.Also there is seven caps of mhrb from the 12 grams extracted,so I would have to guesstimate 8 grams from this.I did eight grams the first time I did it this way and it was very intense.I was also at a very transitinal phase in my life,completely alone,and no friends that I could tell of my journey.I attribute the intensity to this.This is the same batch.
Does anyone else feel that the 12 is too much for as first timer?Or even me for that matter(hehehe)any input is appreciated.The plan is to do it next weekend so I will check this a few more times.
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tyrannicalrex
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Throwing this back up to get a response....(no pun intended)
* whistles while fishing*........
Edited by tyrannicalrex (12/07/07 01:57 PM)
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tyrannicalrex
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Hmmm MM mmm........
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tyrannicalrex
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I was thinking the five would be good as well.Thanks for the reply,I know the other party is ready for a good trip but maybe a strong one like this would not be good,I will up to ten gms next,then 12 if needed(or I am in that crazy mood)I will try to write a report when I get back.CIAO for now! Anyone else got something to say?:)
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Love Cap
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Thanks for the method! Have you ever tried going through the purging experience? It's very helpful and healing if you want that type of thing.
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tyrannicalrex
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Re: DMT/Mimosa [Re: Love Cap]
#7730780 - 12/07/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I did twice,did not like it and my journey ended within 30 mins,I feel no need to purge,fairly grounded,in a wonderful place for now.I do not think the purge adds anything to the journey,that would be for the jungle setting in the country where it is from,for the city setting my method is best for me.
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