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Re: The difference between the Soul and the Ego [Re: navyseals101]
    #7732336 - 12/08/07 09:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

^ I think to obtain enlightenment and swallow your pride would be real


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Re: The difference between the Soul and the Ego [Re: navyseals101]
    #7732355 - 12/08/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ego death doesnt mean your ego has died, it means that you lost your ego for a while, and your "youness" was gone.

It is still an egoic thing to go boasting about how that happened. Just because you lost your ego, doesn't mean the ego can't still be boastful about it.

Edit: i think the reason you tell people more depends on whether it is from the soul or the ego. If you are telling people you got ego loss to get a leg-up on them, then it is egoic, but if you do it so they may take that path and reach that sort of enlightenment, then i believe it is from the soul.

This is a hard subject to grasp for me.


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Re: The difference between the Soul and the Ego [Re: navyseals101]
    #7732359 - 12/08/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ooh ooh I know!

They're both the result of probability wave collapse of billions of electrical signals across chemical pathways in the brain, made possible the laws of physics and millions of years of evolution.

Do I win a prize


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Re: The difference between the Soul and the Ego [Re: navyseals101]
    #7732482 - 12/08/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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^ So is everything you do to better your soul "egoic"




Not if everyone's soul is the same.




can you elaborate on this?

thats what I read from Ram Dass... Aka Richard Albert who stopped all of his intellectual studies... he just "let go" in order to obtain enlightenment

were his studies egoic?

or was dropping his studies egoic?




Sure... keep in mind these are just my beliefs of course.

If everyone's soul is the same, or connected, then bettering your soul would not be egoic because it would be benefiting the entirety of humanity.
This comes about in practical ways, too. Someone whose soul is just works to create harmony and peace.


I believe we as humans are born with all the knowledge we would ever need. Knowledge of God, the Universe, our connection with everything...

As we grow, the filters in our brain develop and we "forget" all this cosmic information. Life is a process of discovering it once again. Discovering one's "self" if you will.

However, one's ego (concept of self) must die in order to do this. To quote Dr. Stanislav Grof, "something has to die to be reborn." I believe this is what Christ was talking about when he spoke of being born again. It's an intense spiritual process. Upon return of the ego, it is more complete. We are more aware of the needs of others, of ecological factors, and of God Himself.


No one can say whether Ram Dass's actions were egoic or not, except himself, and perhaps people who knew him and saw a change based on those actions... it all depends on his motivation.

I don't feel like I've conveyed my feelings exactly with this post, but it'll have to do.


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Re: The difference between the Soul and the Ego [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #7733434 - 12/08/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What do you mean by "soul".  Are you talking about that thing that the Christain God sends to heaven or to hell when you die?  Well, that thing probably doesn't exist. 

If you are talking about the ego, then just look up what freud defined as the ego.  It's his definition so there's no debate about it.

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