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Offlinelearningtofly
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The point of living...
    #7729934 - 12/07/07 06:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So awhile ago I made a post saying that humanity doesn't serve a purpose and that there isn't really any point in living but lately i've come to the conclusion that the point of life on earth is simply because you can... well that and procreation of the species.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7729983 - 12/07/07 06:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I agree with the fact that we exist because we can.

I don't see anything that shows that our "purpose" is to procreate. What more pointless point than that is out there? :lol:
Procreate to have kids because they NEED to procreate in order to make other kids that in their turn will procreate with the same purpose and on & on. :nut: And then what? :lol: Ahhh yes, I know... procreate :razz:


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Re: The point of living... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7729995 - 12/07/07 06:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Basically, goals in life.
There is a point of living, it depends on what goal you wish to achieve. Either to mark a time in history; or like my goal, become liberated from this suffering and reach nirvana.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: mkc]
    #7730001 - 12/07/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

What if you reach Valhalla? :tongue:


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Re: The point of living... [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7730153 - 12/07/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

IMO humans are here to consume entheogens and put positive energy back into the earth thus the cycle continues.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7730251 - 12/07/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In the truest sense of the word, as the human race, our 'purpose' or 'point' is to procreate. It's as simple as life (as we define it) not wanting to cease to exist., it doesn't get any deeper. Any other attempt to come up with a mystical meaning is further blinding us and not allowing us, as humans, to realize that every concept of a divine being or 'higher purpose', doesn't exist.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Boots]
    #7730501 - 12/07/07 08:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yawn. Just b/c your life is bland and free of those "mystical" type moments doesnt actually mean that they dont exist. We are more than just physical animals, we are mental time travelers.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: The point of living... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7730902 - 12/07/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Life created the concept of purpose.

Organisms are specialized things designed to do a job. It doesn't mean they have a purpose, it just means they do something they are programmed to do. If you call that a purpose, then yes, procreation is the purpose of life.

I really don't think life has any purpose, and that is why this question will never be answered.

Really in the end, why do we need a purpose to be? Being isn't something that needs a purpose, it's something that is. In order to be, we need to be. Thats about it IMO. but there are soooo many variations of this, so thats just my take.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7731698 - 12/08/07 01:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

All the purpose around living is about existence. To prolong existence, to be specific.
That's true on a biological level and on a spiritual level as well, as our mind produces and recognizes meaning, which is more or less existent according to our physical existence (and vice versa).
Condensing this means, the meaning for human life is to bring one's talents into existence and prolong them.
At least that's how I see the subject.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7731752 - 12/08/07 02:17 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Purpose for an individual is very specific and we have a choice to define it.. At any moment our purpose can change and in an instance our lives could be forfeit for that cause. In the biological sense we exist to consume and expel matter. But our existence is not that simple. we seek no balance with nature around us our purpose seems to be a constant state of progression ignoring the world around us we plummet to economic greatness. And leave behind the world that would sustain our plunder.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7731776 - 12/08/07 02:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Don't get it backwards. We don't exist to consume and expel matter, we consume and expel matter to exist.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #7731779 - 12/08/07 02:33 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

ahhh I forget part of the bigger picture not the individual one. :wink:


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Re: The point of living... [Re: learningtofly]
    #7731782 - 12/08/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The purpose of life is to live, but even that can be denied in suicide.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7731783 - 12/08/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

:smile:


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7731784 - 12/08/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Drewwyann said:
Life created the concept of purpose.

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Being isn't something that needs a purpose, it's something that is.




Yes. I must agree.
Reproduction is a function that we possess.
Realisticly, I believe we just create a purpose our selves....because, really........who is to make the definitive decision as to what our *official* purpose is?
You decide that your self. Do what ever you want! Your purpose could be reproducing as much as possible, or worshipping some type of deity, or trying to make as much money as possible, or trying to spiritually evolve, or what ever. And obviously you could pick and choose more than one.

So in essence....the purpose is nothing........and it is any thing!


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Desu]
    #7731789 - 12/08/07 02:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

And what Drives us to fulfill our purpose?


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7731796 - 12/08/07 02:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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And what Drives us to fulfill our purpose?




Satan.

ha ha........I'm not going to argue with you on this.


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Re: The point of living... [Re: NiamhNyx]
    #7731803 - 12/08/07 02:44 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe there exists purposeful suicide in accordance to even sustain the spiritual 'level' of life relating to 'healthiness'.
But we would arrive at a very critical subject there, reaching also into eugenics, for example...
I have to think about :wink:


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Re: The point of living... [Re: Walter1496211]
    #7731809 - 12/08/07 02:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The purpose of life is to live..
The purpose of humans is to live for about one or two years... and then become manipulated into thinking the purpose of life is to make money and grow up to be a respectable member of society (what do YOU want to be when you grow up, little one?)

You are asking a very general question Walter but I think what Drives most of us are very banal motivations. At least for me, I am not that conscious - most of my motivations are unconscious, at least for now. If we are able to transcend cultural programming, it is possible that we will align with the Tao, or Life, and then we will be Life living for Life, feeling full of life and being fulfilled.

So I think there is in fact a schism between the purposes we produce in our minds and what is really the purpose here. Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe the mind is all we have?

Going back to the "what do you want to be when you grow up" thing... is it fucked up that I never had an answer to this question?


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Re: The point of living... [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7731831 - 12/08/07 02:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

fight club shit... poverty, murder, starvation. These things don't concern me what is my purpose if not to provide weight to balance out the evil that kills men without giving them the choice to live.


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