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CureCat
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: never_2_high]
#7735612 - 12/09/07 07:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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doubtfully, he usually treks up from SC to hunt in SF.
In fact, I saw evidence of hunting today in some spots I wandered with him last year...
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pscyanescens
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: never_2_high]
#7736361 - 12/09/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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never_2_high: Nope San Francisco. Still working on getting them to grow south of SF.
Curecat: wow i can't believe that stunzii beats the fibs! I heard you need hand fulls of stunzii and most people don't even pick them? I guess i haven't seen that chart in a while.
Ganzig: the difference is that in the picture of the fibs i took the mushrooms were all fully mature and open not to mention larger then the normal cyan, but like i said before size is usually determied by weather conditions to a certain degree. You can even see that one mushroom is heavily printed on the cap from the other mushroom dropping spores from above, this shows they broke their fibrilose veil quite some time before i took the pics. A fully matured cyanescens will always have a wave to the cap, even if it is just a very little one. Thees mushrooms showed no waviness when i picked them, and also showed much more stiration around the caps margin then the regular cyans i find.
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pscyanescens
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: pscyanescens]
#7736372 - 12/09/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well tis the season
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CureCat
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: pscyanescens]
#7736698 - 12/09/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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pscyanescens said: Curecat: wow i can't believe that stunzii beats the fibs! I heard you need hand fulls of stunzii and most people don't even pick them? I guess i haven't seen that chart in a while.
That's exactly what I tell people so they understand exactly how weak Fibs are. Funny that Stamets still calls them Fibs.
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tahoe
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: CureCat]
#7737343 - 12/09/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am going to 99% them as being cyanescens. I will giv it the 100% once a few caps fold back like the classic mature cyan. Everyone should have there own home patch.

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pscyanescens
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: tahoe]
#7743817 - 12/11/07 04:39 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well i would imagine after you eat 5-10 you should be able to tell 100% from the potency. I usually eat only 5-10 cyanescens and i feel good for about 4-6 hours after that, I wouldn't imagine that you would get that much of high from eating 5-10 fibs if they are below stunzii potency levels.
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tahoe
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bad news guys, the dry cold air from the north has caused some serious damage. I will post pics in a bit. Services will be held later this afternoon if anyone would like to attend
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Re: bad news [Re: tahoe]
#7744442 - 12/11/07 10:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the one thing that I have noticed when picking these compared to the fibs/unknowns is that they are not attached to the substrate as well as the fibs.

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Re: bad news [Re: tahoe]
#7744519 - 12/11/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice pictures tahoe , i love the color of some of those, the brusing is in the upper part of the stem more, not so much in the botton . i don´t know why people over there don´t have a patch of the most easy to grow mushrooms of the world and the most potent.... good that you a make a good example. all my best vibration
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Re: bad news [Re: cactu]
#7744569 - 12/11/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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thanks cactu. These were made from stem butts and I didnt even care for them. You might have seen my backyard growlog/photos which was 100x better then the front.
As for the bruising, these stems are coming from deep in the ground. The upper part is exposed to the dry cold wind while the bottom inch is stil protected and covered by chips. These things are forming pins deep down. I am going to made a vid of picking one of them. Be right back
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tahoe
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Re: bad news [Re: tahoe]
#7744677 - 12/11/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am pretty sure these are different species. The first vid being ps cyan and the second being ps cyanofib var san francisco. I do not know if the way that they are attached to the substrate plays a big role in identifacation but look how easily the ones in the first vid come out of the ground and look at the chunk from the second.
Hopefully cyanescens

cyanofib var san francisco
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Re: bad news [Re: tahoe]
#7744745 - 12/11/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nice videos, they do seem to attach differently. I notice the same thing about the friscosas, it usually brings more chips with it then cyans do.
The mix of red and black chips looks really cool.
Sounds like you have helicopters watching your patch though.
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sui
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they are allways a bitch to pick. they cluster more than cyans too.
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Re: bad news [Re: sui]
#7744981 - 12/11/07 01:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tahoe said: "the one thing that I have noticed when picking these compared to the fibs/unknowns is that they are not attached to the substrate as well as the fibs."
Suimush said: "they cluster more than cyans too."
I've noticed the same. The fibs I found this weekend were much more difficult to seperate from the substrate than the cyans I've found. I also noticed that most had bristly hairs protruding from the bottom 1/3 of the stem. The clusters were dense, with many layers of mushrooms.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: never_2_high]
#7797987 - 12/25/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been finding something very close in the central Oregon coast area. They look just like cyans but the cap never opens wide (or gets wavy), and aren't umbonate like azures. Caps remains very convex even at full maturity, but all other macroscopic features fit. (wish I had a microscope)
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