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tahoe
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Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos?
#7728421 - 12/07/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I still do not know what these are. I am hoping that they are Cyanescens. Fibs wouldn't be bad but I have seen enough of those in the past month 





These Might be fibs/friscosas/cyclone/unknowns but they are on the other side and are random also.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: tahoe]
#7728518 - 12/07/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amazing, looks like you have found a way to cross Psilocybe cyanescens with Psilocybe cyanofibrillosa.
Some pictures of the gill surface would be great, if it has any pleurocystidia its not P. cyanofibrillosa.
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weekly to moderately acitive? huh yeeah?
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: notapillow]
#7728744 - 12/07/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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real fibs are supposed to be weak
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: tahoe]
#7728845 - 12/07/07 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The "fibs" i've picked recently in Seattle were VERY potent. In fact the fresh fibs were quite a bit stronger than fresh cyans found near the same area. Workman has been sent samples to compare to other fib finds and the friscosa's etc.
I remember reading somewhere that fibs supposedly are very strong when fresh but lose most of their potency when dried. This is because they have a high level of psilocin but low levels of psilocybin.
That last close-up pic of those pins looks like cyanescens to me. Here's recent cyan pins I've found:

Here's some "fibs" pins I found:

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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
#7730110 - 12/07/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice, its hard to tell really, They look like they are somewhere in the middle.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: sui]
#7730246 - 12/07/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i think its all in the middle. the wood lover complex is a bunch of confusing taxonomy that im not really interested in. im quite sure cyans are able to morph in specific cercomstances and become new species, and or varient species. the line is probly almost inpossible to tell. im curious as too where azuresens came from. did they just morph from a common psilocybe ansestor of the cyan
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: notapillow]
#7730560 - 12/07/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i vote cyans, either way a good find
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: tahoe]
#7731000 - 12/07/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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they all look like cyans except for the one with the blackened middle in the lower left hand side of the first picture. The cap seems pretty aged, but not all too wavy. Could be either one, you've got me.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: Drewwyann]
#7731169 - 12/07/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dunno. They look like cyans, but it's strange that even the bigger ones still look like just pumped up pins. There's a little bit of wavy-ness going on, but not as much as any other cyan i've ever seen. Not that that doesn't mean they're not cyans. There's also not much bruising, though that varies with every mushroom, as i'm sure you know.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: Pregnant Man]
#7731201 - 12/07/07 11:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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consider there are many varieties of cyans, or strains, just like cubensis, some will wave more than others
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: casgoodie]
#7733600 - 12/08/07 03:03 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I found those, I would not even question that they are cyans. I dont know. I am a lumper and not a splitter though.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: Ganzig]
#7734848 - 12/08/07 09:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those are Cyans if i had ever seen one, most just havent reached full maturity. I bet a few days after the picture was taken they will begin to wave a lot more. A patch if fibs wouldn't wave at all and plus they have more stiration the cyans, which i don't see here.
Here are some cyans i found yesterday.





Here are some fibs i found two years ago. Much larger then the normal cyans might i add, however the weather conditions are responsible for that.

Along with this wonderful Clatharus Ruber.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: pscyanescens]
#7735193 - 12/08/07 11:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Holy crap. Those pictures are great. I can really see that those fibs are different, and look a lot more like other pictures I have seen. But what do I know? Not much.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: Ganzig]
#7735216 - 12/09/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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they are more wavy and consistently wavy then the fibs but they are not wavy enough to get me to say definitely cyan. damn cold dry air has come back and I have them covered. Pics tomorrow.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: Ganzig]
#7735230 - 12/09/07 12:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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They are NOT Ps. cyanofibrillosa based on microscopic comparison of the original collection described by Guzman and Stamets.
Furthermore, there is quite a noticeable potency discrepancy between what we are finding here in the Bay Area- the "Cyanofriscosa" or "Cyclone"- and Ps. cyanofibrillosa. The mushrooms in question are comparable to Ps. cyanescens is potency (not to mention, microscopically!), yet Ps. cyanofibrillosa is charted as FAR less potent in Stamets book Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World:
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: Ganzig]
#7735236 - 12/09/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ganzig said: If I found those, I would not even question that they are cyans. I dont know. I am a lumper and not a splitter though.
You can't "lump" or "split" based on macroscopic observation alone!!!!
Well.... at least not with any credibility.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: CureCat]
#7735263 - 12/09/07 12:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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these are most likely different then the back yard grow log. the ones in back were for sure the cyanofib/friscosa/clyclone/unknown thing.
The last pic above are the same as the backyard finds just in another area out front.
The neighbors sure do look at me funny when they see me outside watering the plants the day after it rains. F-in wind has dryed these lil fuckers out.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: CureCat]
#7735280 - 12/09/07 12:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ganzig said: If I found those, I would not even question that they are cyans. I dont know. I am a lumper and not a splitter though.
You can't "lump" or "split" based on macroscopic observation alone!!!!
Well.... at least not with any credibility.
You got a point there.
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Re: Cyans or Cyanofibs? More Mature Photos? [Re: Ganzig]
#7735434 - 12/09/07 01:58 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Were those finds from S.C. pscyanescens?
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