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Chronic7
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Contam..should i pick them?
#7727692 - 12/07/07 08:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My shroomz are half grown, maybe one more day and theyll be ready, the thing is ive just noticed sum green contam, its only a small bit but shoudl i pick all the shroomz now and discard the grow brick or let yhe caps open then pick them?
Theres only 4/5 big shroomz the rest are large pins....
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Chronic7]
#7727710 - 12/07/07 08:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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As far as i know those shrooms should be ok to pick when there ready, but if its near any other grows you might want to isolate it.
As long as the mould isnt on the shrooms they should be fine.
You might be able to leave it for another day to let them mature and pick then disgard the substrate.
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Chronic7
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7727725 - 12/07/07 08:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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cool thats what i was thinking, i personally think its the grow bricks im getting that are shit because ive cleaned my room with 99.9% anti bacterial EVERYWHERE and cleaned the propergator with it throuoghly and i still get contams evrytime, im jst glad i got sum shroomz before it happened this time.
maybe my humidifier might be contamed as it was in a cupboard for a year without use....
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Chronic7]
#7727752 - 12/07/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Personally i wouldn't eat mushrooms off a cake that has even the tiniest amount of infection. It does not matter how close the infection is to a mushroom, because a mushroom grows from the mycelium, which has a network throughout the entire cake. A mushroom can still be infected even if it is on the opposite side of the cake.
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Chronic7]
#7727757 - 12/07/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you pasturising your casing layer, know with some stuff you can use it straight out the packet, but if its contaming everytime maybe you should try pasturising.
Its also possible that your spawn is contaminated to begine with.
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: bojengals]
#7727784 - 12/07/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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bojengals you're misinformed
trich is pretty much harmless to people, it's only a Class B indoor mold. It's possible for someone to have an allergy to trich, and therefor eating something near trich, or even growing mushrooms would be dumb in the first place
there's nothing wrong with the shrooms if you're really that worried about it then pick them and cut the bottom of the stems off 
it's likely that your pins won't continue growth, when trich sets in, it seems like everything that's not half grown stops growing
just keep it around for a few days, salvage what you can
Edited by anarchOi (12/07/07 08:54 AM)
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Chronic7
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: anarchOi]
#7727962 - 12/07/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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will the pins still have some goodness in them?
I buy "spawn bricks" from magicmushroom.org, which you then put into a grow chamber (propergator) with humidifier and temp control with damp perlite underneath the brick.
I never used to get contam problems i think its cause im in a studio flat with the bathroom about 5 meters away at the bottom of a damp garden
they replace the bricks free of charge its just annoying because they take 2/3 weeks to grow so when one fucks up you gotta wait another month to possibly have sum shroomz to trip on 
whe i next grow im going to make sure i clean the area around the bathroom/grow kit with bacteria killer everyday, i wlak thru the garden to my room everynight and theres all sorts of fungus growing in my garden....
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Edited by Chronic7 (12/07/07 09:54 AM)
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: bojengals]
#7728024 - 12/07/07 10:01 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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bojengals said: Personally i wouldn't eat mushrooms off a cake that has even the tiniest amount of infection. It does not matter how close the infection is to a mushroom, because a mushroom grows from the mycelium, which has a network throughout the entire cake. A mushroom can still be infected even if it is on the opposite side of the cake.
Absolutely 100% wrong. RR
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Chronic7
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7728055 - 12/07/07 10:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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im eating these because all the shroomz look fine, the green mould is spreading fast though i might have to pick them 2night.
will the half grown shroomz and the pins have any psilocibin in them?
in the past ive foudn the smaller shroomz to be the more potent...
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Chronic7]
#7728083 - 12/07/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes they do there fine eat 'em
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: armyabe]
#7728116 - 12/07/07 10:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i make tea all the way, its never let me down plus you kill off any excess germs/bacteria with boiling water, ive even acidently left it boiling for ages and the heat doesnt harm the potency at all.
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Chronic7
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Chronic7]
#7728334 - 12/07/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I found the culprit, i wiped the inside of the propergator half way thru growth with toilet paper to soak up the condensation, as i thought it was too humid and so got contam'd by standing water.
But on the roof of the propergator directly above the little infected grene area is a bit of toilet paper stuck to the roof, do you think its coincidence it was directly above the contam?
If the peices of the puzzle fit then the contam keeps happening because of my bathroom (the toilet paper was from the bathroom)
from nwo i will wash my hands before and after i touch my kit and will clean the area around the bathroom and make sure there NO standing water in the bathroom at all/spray anti bacterial spray everywhere.
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Chronic7]
#7728347 - 12/07/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes you should wash your hands always, take a shower perhaps. .....and boiling the mushies will effect potency btw.
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7728444 - 12/07/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks RR, learn something new every day! I was always told that any contams are bad contams and to just discard. Thanks for the info
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Chronic7
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: bojengals]
#7728593 - 12/07/07 12:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i still prefer boiling them because i hate gagging them down, columbians fresh taste ok and mexicans are ok but i always end up gagging them down and then they take ages to come up if i just amke tea i come up smooth and fast and no stomach cramps the next day.
thats why i boil them and probably wont ever eat them again.
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Chronic7]
#7728648 - 12/07/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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won't ever eat them again? why not? sad
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7729868 - 12/07/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
RogerRabbit said:
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bojengals said: Personally i wouldn't eat mushrooms off a cake that has even the tiniest amount of infection. It does not matter how close the infection is to a mushroom, because a mushroom grows from the mycelium, which has a network throughout the entire cake. A mushroom can still be infected even if it is on the opposite side of the cake.
Absolutely 100% wrong. RR
RR, when can you eat mushrooms of an infected cake? Always or in some cases? Up to now I thought you should never eat it. This is what the magic mushrooms growers guide (http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_mmgg.shtml)tells us about it:
"Any odd colors that might appear are contamination and the jar must be thrown out. Do not take any chances. If you think the jar might be contaminated, throw it out! Some molds and bacteria produce toxins that can kill you. Just because a mushroom is growing on the opposite side of the cake from the contamination does not mean you are safe. The mycelium network carries nutrients and moisture to the mushrooms from far away and can easily pick up the toxins and bring them to the mushroom. The fact that you are using this guide means you are not an experienced mycologist. You do not know which molds and bacteria are deadly. Do not take a chance."
So I guess this a bit exaggerated?
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: Nebula]
#7732075 - 12/08/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If a jar gets contaminated, then theres no point trying to save it and fruit it, its most likely not going to fruit.
But the infection happens during fruiting, u can harvest. that tek is a bit outdated. Im sure it must have been tested in the lab at some point. I know RR had some mushrooms tested that had eaten thru aluminium trays, to see if there was any metal content in the mushrooms.
Am i right in thinking, that a fresh growing mushroom is able to defend itself against certain moulds and bacteria from growing and consuming it ??
Obvoiusly if the shroom looks funny and looks like something is eating it, it could be poisness. As long as it looks ok, harvest and ditch teh substrate (or bury it somewhere, it may grow outdoors)
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Re: Contam..should i pick them? [Re: veda_sticks]
#7745455 - 12/11/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Be careful with which molds you're eating
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