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First Grow -- Mold?
    #7727492 - 12/07/07 06:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Hello all,

First of all, this is my first post, and this site rules.

I'm attempting my first grow ever. I am using B+ from spores101.

I think I already know my answer, but can anyone confirm that I have mold?



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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7727502 - 12/07/07 06:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That is most certainly some green mold. Toss em'


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: fastfred]
    #7727514 - 12/07/07 06:40 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Definatly green mould. Dont let that get you down. I have suffered a few bad contaminations. I had a number of jars start of growing really healthy myc then a spot of blue appeared, a day later and it was everywhere.

I suggest that you look of your sterile technique.

If you properly sterilised those jars, the contam has gotten there during inocilation.

Did you use a glovebox?? This is really important when putting the needle on the syringe.

Start from freshf and try again. You will succeed, its just a matter of getting hand of the procedures.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7727567 - 12/07/07 07:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks.

I did use a pressure cooker to sterilize, as well as a glovebox with latex gloves.

Out of my 8 jars, maybe 4 or 5 are still okay. It's been 5 days so far.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? *DELETED* [Re: slim26]
    #7727626 - 12/07/07 07:37 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: fee]
    #7727798 - 12/07/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I did. I'm thinking maybe something got in after I inoculated the jars. After I inoculated them, I only put aluminum foil back on them and stored the jars. Should I have taped the holes back up in addition to putting the aluminum foil back on?


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7727804 - 12/07/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You discard the foil. You dont need anything but the dry vermiculite filter.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7727809 - 12/07/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

With pf tek jars and the verm barrier, you can leave the foil off for good gas exchange, the verm barrier should stop any spores that might make its way into the inoc holes. Since the barrier is dry and has no nuitrisious value. The spore wont germinate and grow.

Have the jars been distrubed at all during colinisation?? It is possible that any spores that may have gotten to the verm barrier has managed to make its way to the substrate? Its very rare but possible. Its never happened to me, my first few grows i checked almost eveyr day.

But to feel safe, its fine to use micropore tape and leave the foil off.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7727958 - 12/07/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks .. you guys have been very helpful.

The jars were not disturbed too much during colonization other then me taking a look at them everyday.

Hopefully I can still get 2-4 non-contaminated jars out of this, in the meantime I placed an order for another syringe today to try again.

The only thing that frustrates me is I was hoping to have a flush by the weekend of 1/18 ....


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7727972 - 12/07/07 09:50 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You wouldnt have seen a flush even if it wasnt contamed, it takes atleast 14 days to fully colinse a 1/2 pint, then 5 day wait before dunking and rolling, then once its in the fruiting chamber and can be almost 2 weeks before pinning, the from pins to mushrooms 5-7 days.

These of coarse are timeframes at the almost longest.

Its quite possible to have pins after 3 or 4 days.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7728008 - 12/07/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I like those jars. Anyone else use those?


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7728089 - 12/07/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

actually.. it's still possible... 6 weeks away .. 5 days into colonization


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: Fraggin]
    #7728098 - 12/07/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I like those jars. Anyone else use those?




those are 1/2 pint Ball Jelly Jars that I found at ACE Hardware.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7732087 - 12/08/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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actually.. it's still possible... 6 weeks away .. 5 days into colonization




oops i didnt see they date just saw by the weekend.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: veda_sticks]
    #7737600 - 12/09/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like I lost 7 of my 8 jars to green mold.

I have one left that I think is still okay. However, it's been 7 days in and doesn't seem to be colonizing. I only have 1 small spot on the jar that is white (see pic). Does anyone think that the whole jar will colonize?



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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7737710 - 12/09/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

by the looks of it those were caused by a dirty syringe, The amount of contamination looks like it had a liquid carrier. 99% sure the syringe was dirty.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: tahoe]
    #7738387 - 12/09/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

hmm... I flame sterilized the syringe before inoculating each jar with the flame on the gas stove.

Does it look like the last jar is still good?


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7738436 - 12/09/07 09:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

That one still looks all right. I also like those jars.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: blackfir]
    #7741529 - 12/10/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

did the guy pressure cook these things?? Either dirty syringe or didnt cook it enough. Cakes only need 20-30 mins in a pc.
I do not think a dirty needle would have caused such a huge mess.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: tahoe]
    #7741825 - 12/10/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I pressure cooked them for 45 minutes at 15 PSI.

I'm thinking that the room that I left them into incubate has probably got tons of mold spores in it (furnace room).

The jar that was not contaminated still doesn't seem to be doing anything after 8 days. It still only has the small white spot exactly as in the above picture.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7743893 - 12/11/07 06:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I took the tape off the jar last night, and this morning, sure enough I got mold. I noticed when I opened the lid that my dry barrier was all screwed up... it must have been from me screwing around with the jars and all the dry barrier got shifted to one side.

live and learn.... time to try again....


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7745444 - 12/11/07 03:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

How do you contaminate a needle like that?


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: primal21]
    #7751330 - 12/12/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

if you had a 1/2 inch or thicker verm layer and you pc'ed your jars then the molds were introduced via syringe. If it wass just a dirty needle then the green mold would start as just a straight line. Your mold is all over which I am sure mimics the spread pattern of the water in the syringe. I am 99% it as a dirty ass syringe. Flaming the needle between every inoc would not have helped.
Get your money back!@!!


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: tahoe]
    #7751819 - 12/12/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for the advice fellas.. got the syringe from spores101 .... after I realized I got mold, I ordered another one from them. Hopefully this time will be successful.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: slim26]
    #7751954 - 12/12/07 11:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Thanks for the advice fellas.. got the syringe from spores101 .... after I realized I got mold, I ordered another one from them. Hopefully this time will be successful.



seems that there have been quite a few of these in the past few days. I could only imagine the net loss of everyone who bought syringes from them and spent time and money to make some and only to have complete failure.
I would buy somewhere lese next time


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: tahoe]
    #7758357 - 12/14/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Tahoe I do not appreciate you placing blame on Spores101. There is plenty of other posts stating people get great results, more so than negative results.

I am confident that the green mold did NOT come from the Spores101 syringe. Green mold doesn't come from spores it comes from a contamination.

The syringe was sterile and viable when we sent it so if it was from a dirty syringe it got dirty in the customers hands. NOT from spores101.

Either way we have 100% satisfaction guarantee so if you want a replacement all you need to do is ask.

And I really don't know what your talking about Tahoe, the amount of syringes we sell there is very few complaints... and for the amount of inexperienced users out there I am confident that "user error" is the case and not our product.

But again.. either way... if you order from spores101 you are guaranteed satisfaction or your money back, OR replacements sent.


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Re: First Grow -- Mold? [Re: Shroomtalk]
    #7758809 - 12/14/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I am confident that the green mold did NOT come from the Spores101 syringe. Green mold doesn't come from spores it comes from a contamination.





How does green mold propigate?

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The syringe was sterile and viable when we sent it





How can it be sterile and viable at the same time?

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so if it was from a dirty syringe it got dirty in the customers hands.





Or from dirty spores when it was made.


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And I really don't know what your talking about Tahoe, the amount of syringes we sell there is very few complaints... and for the amount of inexperienced users out there I am confident that "user error" is the case and not our product.





But you admit there ARE complaints. Maybe this is just one to add to the list.


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