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Re: God is not real. [Re: Muffin]
    #7726993 - 12/07/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

You are terrible at this, you know that? You need to actually expand on your thoughts. So you think there is an absence of all higher powers just because it cannot be proved.

Now I hate what the bible people preach. I DO believe it teaches good morels about how to live, but sometimes people take it way to literally. its a symbolic book.

I DO believe that since this universe is infinite, there is practically an infinite amount of knowledge, us knowing .oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo1%. or less. Obviously extremely past our intellegence level. We simply cannot understand the majority of the universe. Theories suggest there are some 20+ dimensions. We know 4: spapce+time. What are these other dimensions and how the fuck do they affect us? We simply do NOT know.

We live in complete uncertainty and to think there is no 'higher governing power' is just ignorant. Gravity itself is a recently new concept.

Have you read anything and tried to understand 5+ dimensions??? it is the hardest thing to fucking understand I swear to God. Even 4 dimensions are hard to understand as in how gravity afects time etc. i am getting off topic, but please do not just be black/white about it.

"no there is nothing"="the bible is 100% real"

There is a HUGE fucking gray area. And we know practically nothing of it.

Peace yo


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Muffin]
    #7726998 - 12/07/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

have a


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Muffin]
    #7726999 - 12/07/07 12:19 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

prove he doesnt exist!..kill yourself and see if you embrace god when you die!


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Re: God is not real. [Re: razmablues]
    #7727000 - 12/07/07 12:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

this is like asking for an arguement.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7727001 - 12/07/07 12:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I DO believe it teaches good morels about how to live



Mmmmm...morels....



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Re: God is not real. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7727002 - 12/07/07 12:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think if we studied a petri dish and watched the organisms grow and compete we'd learn a lot about ourselves.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Silversoul]
    #7727004 - 12/07/07 12:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

lol. Im drunk and did not want to post that much. But I felt this ignorant scumfuck needed it.

i want some morels, fuck morals!


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Cheezit]
    #7727006 - 12/07/07 12:22 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I think if we studied a petri dish and watched the organisms grow and compete we'd learn a lot about ourselves.


um okay like sea monkeys?


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Cheezit]
    #7727009 - 12/07/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

culture is individualities ultimate enemy.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Cheezit]
    #7727013 - 12/07/07 12:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I think if we studied a petri dish and watched the organisms grow and compete we'd learn a lot about ourselves.




ha yea. Like in the matrix maaaaaaahn, we are a VIRUS. Agent Smith said so :matrixfight:


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7727015 - 12/07/07 12:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Show me proof that god exists and I will embrace him unto my arms.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Muffin]
    #7727017 - 12/07/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ok, logic it is. We'll start with false logic.
I used this definition the other day, so here it is again.

Ad hominem: An ad hominem argument is any that attempts to counter anothers claims or conclusions by attacking the person, rather than addressing the argument itself.

Here is another form of false logic

Ad ignorantiam: The argument from ignorance basically states that a specific belief is true because we don't know that it isn't true.

Confusing currently unexplained with unexplainable: Because we do not currently have an adequate explanation for a phenomenon does not mean that it is forever unexplainable, or that it therefore defies the laws of nature or requires a paranormal explanation. An example of this is the "God of the Gapsâ" strategy of creationists that whatever we cannot currently explain is unexplainable and was therefore an act of god.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Skunk420]
    #7727019 - 12/07/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

um no not like sea monkeys.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7727020 - 12/07/07 12:25 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Show me proof that god exists and I will embrace him unto my arms.




Was this response to me? I never said God existed. I simple said there is too much unknown in the universe to dismiss some higher governing body.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: ShiVersblood]
    #7727021 - 12/07/07 12:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Why doesn't God send an updated Bible for modern man. The old one gets lost in translation and culture confusion. A little food for thought.




Because hes to busy wankin off to even consider writing a revision let alone having a free hand.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Tangerines]
    #7727030 - 12/07/07 12:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Only you define what we are. We can be a virus, we could be symbiotic, we could be a pathogen, we could be ?. What roll do you want to play on this earth like cell?


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Muffin]
    #7727031 - 12/07/07 12:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

wow man you are missing the point. I am just trying to say we know nothing. So we cannot assume anything i.e. that a 'god' does not exist. It very well could or could not. arguing is stupid because there will never be an end. we can't argue what we do not know, by that point it becomes faith that we are arguing.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Cheezit]
    #7727032 - 12/07/07 12:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Cheezit said:
Only you define what we are. We can be a virus, we could be symbiotic, we could be a pathogen, we could be ?. What roll do you want to play on this earth like cell?




I wanna be a cheez-it.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7727033 - 12/07/07 12:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Show me proof that god exists and I will embrace him unto my arms.


kill yourself and come back to life..then tell us what you see.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7727036 - 12/07/07 12:30 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes, and I specified, not an argument, but you got all pissy like a big fat vagina.
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Prove me there is no higher power.

you wanted a debate numbnuts.



It doesn't work that way, you don't prove something DOESN'T exist. You prove it does. I could say, "Prove to me the universe wasn't created by the spice girls." but that would be retarded wouldn't it?




Yes you can prove that something doesn't exist. That you can't is a profoundly illogical quote, which I think originated on South Park, and has been making the rounds ever since.
If you couldn't prove that something doesn't exist, then it'd be impossible to prove what anything actually is. I can prove that my desk is made of wood and not of rubber by having a definition of what wood and rubber are, and observing that the qualities of wood are present while the qualities of rubber are not.
I can prove that the titanic is not floating above my house by observing that that which is defined as the titanic is not be be found above my house. I can prove that there is no apple in my hand simply because I have a concept for what an apple is, and it isn't to be found in my hand.




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Also, yes, I completely lack faith in any governing force. Read a fucking book besides the Bible.




I guess we shouldn't read science books either, because they teach us all about governing forces in the universe.




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