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Offlineigwna
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Re: God is not real. [Re: truffleupagus]
    #7735827 - 12/09/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well, i've had a wide variety of dogs. but mostly those that caught the chickens were terriers. i also have a lab.

we've had tons of different animals (my moms a breeder and my dads a farmer)

and i've worked in a pet store.


What kind of dog do you have?


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Re: God is not real. [Re: truffleupagus]
    #7735955 - 12/09/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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truffleupagus said:
I'm still a little surprised at the amount of nonbelievers on here though. Everybody wants to talk about astral projection which is, as near as I can figure, an outward manifestation of the spirit. But then somebody's gonna tell me that the spirit dies right along with the body. To that, I'm gonna tell them that I think they're dumb.




The thing about belief in the sense of religion is it goes against rational thought. We're living in a society now where we're constantly warned not to believe everything we hear. If i were to have faith in the truth of every television commercial on TV i would be poor and stupid. The existence of God, not matter what form 'he' takes can't be rationalised. There's a point where you come to where you say "I can't see the fairies at the end of my garden, i can't touch the fairies at the end of my garden, i've never seen any evidence whatsoever for fairies at the end of my garden, so why do i still believe?"

Now sure when a close family member dies, you sincerely, dearly want there to be a God and an afterlife because it will help you deal with your pain. It's a soul destroying thought to think that 'that's it', it's so much easier to believe you'll see them again. The very first religious activity was the funeral, and its not hard to understand why. The need for God is an incredibly powerful psychological need, and people that don't believe and are prepared to face the consequences of this are incredibly brave IMO.

OBEs are a hallucination.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: undergrounder]
    #7736268 - 12/09/07 11:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: God is not real. [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #11357165 - 10/31/09 12:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Muffin said:
Prove me wrong. 
This is not to start an argument, it is to start a debate.  Ready...GO!






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Re: God is not real. [Re: undergrounder]
    #11360879 - 11/01/09 02:25 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

how do you rationalize Ex Nihilo?

Other support for creatio ex nihilo belief comes from the idea that something cannot arise from nothing; that would involve a contradiction (compare ex nihilo nihil fit). Therefore something must always have existed. But (this account continues) it is scientifically impossible for matter to always have existed. Moreover, matter is contingent: it is not logically impossible for it not to exist, and nothing else depends on it. Hence one deduces a Creator, non-contingent and not composed of matter: God.

existence without God is whats illogical


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Life Upon Death]
    #11363685 - 11/01/09 04:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Just because something was created, doesnt imply that it was created by someone. If one whole existed and broke into pieces that would be enough to start a chain reaction with infinite possibilities. How that one thing existed is a whole other ball game. In no way does it imply that that one thing had to be conscious or even be created by something else conscious.

If there was a god he's dead now and we're his decaying corpse. Theres clearly no governing force here protecting us.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: thewalls]
    #11363824 - 11/01/09 04:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Mankind in his insatiable search for divine
Knowledge has discarded all biblical teachings

Realizing that the strength of religion is the repression of
knowledge
All structures of religion have collapsed

Life prays for death
in the wake of the horror of these revelations

It was never imagined how graphic the reality that would
be known as the end
of creation
Would manifest itself

We believe all this chaos and atrocity can be traced
Back to one single event

We hold these truths to be painfully self-evident
All men are not created equal
Only the strong will prosper
Only the strong will conquer
Only in the darkness of Christ have I realized
God Hates Us All


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Life Upon Death]
    #11364013 - 11/01/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

the burden of proof is on the believers in god. there is 0% empirical evidence that go exists, and 100% empirical evidence that he does not. if believers want to change that, they need to provide empirical data that can be verified and repeated.


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Re: God is not real. [Re: Taco Chef]
    #11364196 - 11/01/09 05:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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novumorganum said:
the burden of proof is on the believers in god. there is 0% empirical evidence that go exists, and 100% empirical evidence that he does not. if believers want to change that, they need to provide empirical data that can be verified and repeated.




I second that and completely agree.


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