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Bitch on Ebay.
    #7725189 - 12/06/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

fucking bitch, i ordered some HBWR seeds to add to my garden collection, well the seeds got here monday and they are CLEARLY not Argyreia nervosa, so i sent a little message to her just letting her know. i wasnt pursuing anything, i wasnt going to ask for a refund or anything. they cost me $2.50, nothing worth fighting over. then the bitch has the audacity to send me this:

"They ARE exactly what I advertised. They grew in my garden and they are for gardens NOT human consumption. If you were looking for the plants I am selling, you received exactly that. If you were looking for something that would fry your brain, I do not sell that. There are 6 varieties of Argyrea nervosa. Mine is from the bloom that is pictured. If you were looking for the recreational drug, you should have asked and I would have assured you I do not carry any such seeds."

the nerve! the one fucking time im actually looking for seeds to PLANT and not eat, and im accused of being a druggie???

then i responded with this:

"First of all, either you are not very experienced with Argyreia nervosa, or you are intentionally ripping people off. the seeds you supplied are NOT Argyreia nervosa, in any way shape or form. THESE are Argyreia nervosa:

http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/ArgyreiaID.htm

you can argue it all you want. the seeds you sent me are NOT the seeds you are advertising. the seeds you sent me are less than 1/3 the size of the true seed, they are hairless and they are black. NOTHING even remotely close to Argyreia nervosa.

then you have the audacity and nerve to accuse me of seeking these for illegal drug use?? lady i dont know where you get off making this claim. as i said nothing even remotely related to drug use and these seeds. i am an avid gardener, my fiance and I love flowers and enjoy cultivating them, i bought those seeds to introduce new stock to the ones i already have.

i was merely letting you know that you were falsely advertising your product, i wasnt expecting anything in return. but since you took it upon yourself to falsely accuse me of something in retrospect to YOUR mistake, now i will give you the feedback you deserve.

oh and by the way, if i DID want to get high, i wouldnt need to eat your seeds, i grow them myself. not to mention, you can find the same chemical in morning glories. there are a million ways to get high if i chose to do so.

you need to review your organization and identification methods. bitch."


then the bitch replied:

"I have 50 years of experience. I can see you are aware of the drug trade. Just so you can learn a little for yourself, why don't you check out J L Hudson, seedsman site. He does not sell the hullucinogen either, but he does have a document describing the 6 different types of Argyreia nervosa. Go educate yourself a little more."

and this is my final reply:

"it doesnt take a druggy to be educated about the plants you enjoy to grow. if everyone who was knowledgeable about plants was a druggy then there wouldnt be any sober botanists or gardeners you dumbass. i guess every rancher who owns cows would all be mushroom heads then right? and every pharmacologist would be a pill popper right? youre an idiot.

dont think so highly of yourself that i was going to come back and buy more seeds from you, i would rather sit on my ass and do nothing in place of enjoying a beautiful garden supplied by an old bitch who likes to rip people off and accuse them of drug use. get a fucking clue lady.
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you know, its one thing to make a mistake, but its wrong to rip people off! this lady is advertising Argyreia nervosa and selling something else. im not sure if its even a look alike yet, and i wont until i grow them, the fact is, it is NOT Argyreia nervosa. the seeds are less than 1/3 the size, jet black, and smooth. doesnt even resemble Argyreia nervosa.

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    #7725196 - 12/06/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725198 - 12/06/07 04:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

show me some pics of the seeds :smile:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7725204 - 12/06/07 04:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Tell her to shove her seeds up her rotten cunt!


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725210 - 12/06/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Leave a feedback that says
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She promised me in an email before the auction ended that these would get me high as a kite, but all they did was make me vomit violently for 6 hours!




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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7725216 - 12/06/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I bet she is growing plain old morning glories. Post some macro shots of the seeds (use the macro function, the little flower on your camera).

She is probably annoyed because she has in the past had to deal with multiple complaints from "druggies" once they notice her seeds are not what she thinks they are.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: 2end4]
    #7725262 - 12/06/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Tell her to shove her seeds up her rotten cunt!




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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7725289 - 12/06/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think I know what they are.

Do an image search for Rivea Corymbosa or Ololiuqui.

If that's what they look like then tell her she's an asshole and truffleupagus said so.

BTW, these contain LSA too, you druggie you! :lol:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: dr_gonz]
    #7725497 - 12/06/07 05:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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dr_gonz said:
post her response to that




she hasnt yet. i doubt she will. but if she does i will. god this lady pissed me off.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Mitchnast]
    #7725511 - 12/06/07 05:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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show me some pics of the seeds :smile:




i cant until either tomorrow or saturday night. im not at my apartment right now. but i will. im telling you, a retard could tell the difference. these are something else.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #7725536 - 12/06/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Leave a feedback that says
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She promised me in an email before the auction ended that these would get me high as a kite, but all they did was make me vomit violently for 6 hours!







haha! i thought of something similar, but i posted "seller sent wrong seeds, then accused me of seeking drugs for illegal activity."

and she replied to that feedback:

"Reply by ******** (Dec-06-07 14:34):
I sent exactly the seeds described including picture. Looking for lrg narc seeds"

this really irritates me, because she just jumped to conclusions about me searching to get "high", when i never said a fucking thing about that.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #7725551 - 12/06/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I bet she is growing plain old morning glories. Post some macro shots of the seeds (use the macro function, the little flower on your camera).

She is probably annoyed because she has in the past had to deal with multiple complaints from "druggies" once they notice her seeds are not what she thinks they are.




no no, they arent even morning glory seeds, i am very familiar with both, these seeds are less than half of the size of MG seeds. i honestly have no idea what they are, and wont until i grow them. ive never seen them before.

i will post the pictures in the next 2 days for you guys to take a look at.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725621 - 12/06/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

some of the smaller, non-active morning glories have small black seeds that are closer in shape to HBW seeds.
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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: truffleupagus]
    #7725643 - 12/06/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I think I know what they are.

Do an image search for Rivea Corymbosa or Ololiuqui.

If that's what they look like then tell her she's an asshole and truffleupagus said so.

BTW, these contain LSA too, you druggie you! :lol:




HAHAHA!!! i think this may be what i got! they look almost identical, same size, same shape, the only difference is that the ones i got from her are a few shades darker. everything else matches up though. and from what she said they look just like HBWR. this is great. i was going to order some of these one of these days anyway :rofl2:.

stupid bitch!

well i feel better now. at least i didnt get ripped off as i originally thought. :smirk:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725656 - 12/06/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

File a claim. I would.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725659 - 12/06/07 06:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Are you going to call her out on it and show her what they really are?


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: DieCommie]
    #7725669 - 12/06/07 06:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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File a claim. I would.




i was thinking about it, but honestly for $2.50 it seemed like alot of hassle to go through, and now that im almost positive i got some even better seeds instead, i doubt ill bother, i gave her negative feedback. although she gave me some too...... bitch! lol


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: RipVanWinkle]
    #7725679 - 12/06/07 06:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Are you going to call her out on it and show her what they really are?




OH YEAH! theres nothing i would enjoy more than making her feel like an idiot. but something tells me that someone who claims to have 50+ years of experience and jumps to the conclusion that im seeking the "larger narcotic HBWR" isnt going to listen or care.....


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725750 - 12/06/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well that sure does deserve a crankey.

:crankey:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725751 - 12/06/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

file a paypal claim and make them refund the $


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725780 - 12/06/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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leftysurprise said:
the only difference is that the ones i got from her are a few shades darker.




I bought some of these a while back and they were almost jet black, darker than the ones that I saw when I did an image search.

At least you still got something good out of it.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #7725790 - 12/06/07 07:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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well that sure does deserve a crankey.

:crankey:




it deserves a swift boot in her cunt! :crankey:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: truffleupagus]
    #7725794 - 12/06/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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truffleupagus said:
Quote:

leftysurprise said:
the only difference is that the ones i got from her are a few shades darker.




I bought some of these a while back and they were almost jet black, darker than the ones that I saw when I did an image search.

At least you still got something good out of it.




and you grew them with no problems? the ones i got are nearly jet black.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725825 - 12/06/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I wouldn't inform Paypal they would likely confiscate anything you have in your account as well as the sellers.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7725945 - 12/06/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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and you grew them with no problems? the ones i got are nearly jet black.




Well, ummm...

I planted mine in my stomach.  Guess I'm a druggie too.:grin:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7725952 - 12/06/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

NO, you need to file with PayPal. They are very customer-sided with complaints. PayPal ALSO likes to freeze accounts for no good reason. I had 220 US frozen for 7 months because I pooled credit cards for a purchase. If you file a complaint, it's actually possible for them to freeze her whole account, and THAT would be the best revenge ever, if she had any money in it.

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I wouldn't inform Paypal they would likely confiscate anything you have in your account as well as the sellers.





Exactly, just make sure you don't have any $$$. Being a vender, I bet she has more to loose  :doublefu:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Xeluc]
    #7725960 - 12/06/07 07:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah they will freeze it for no reason if it's "suspicious" to them


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Caribou_Lou]
    #7726241 - 12/06/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Yes and paypal loves to side with the complainer...

Like I some guy sent me copied movies as sold as real movies on ebay I didn't let it fly, I refused to even send them back to the guy I told Paypal about it via resolution center and not only did I get my money back I also noticed his ebay account was cancelled and I was allowed to KEEP the movies  :thumbup:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7729451 - 12/07/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well i filed a claim today. i sure hope that stupid bitch has a nice chunk of money in there. i never keep any money in my paypal account, it just charges my debit card when i make a transaction, so im GRAVY!

this is my claim:

"seller sent wrong seeds and when i asked her about them she proceeded to claim that her advertisement was correct and then accused me of seeking material for illegal drug use.

seller advertised Argyreia nervosa(aka hawaiian baby woodrose). i am 100% certain this is not what i recieved, as i have grown them myself. i showed the seeds to a few fellow gardeners and a few members of a gardening forum online, all of them agreed that they were definately not Argyreia nervosa, and a few of them claimed that they were actually Rivea Corymbosa(aka Ololiuqui), which are in the same family of plants and look very similar.

i was simply letting her know that what she sent me was not what she was advertising, i was not going to pursue anything as the small amount of money they cost me was not enough to fight over, until i was verbally assaulted and accused of being a "druggie". this would not be the first time i have been sent the wrong order, but it is certainly the first time i have been insulted and accused of illegal activity because of it.

in NO way, shape or form did i ever ask the seller for anything "narcotic" as she claims, nor have i ever mentioned anything even REMOTELY close to drug related. i love gardening, and that is what the seeds were intended for. nothing more, nothing less.

i ask for a full refund and removal of false negative feedback, as i am not the one in the wrong. seller claims to have 50+ years of experience, which would make one assume that she knows how to run a business. as far as i am aware, insulting a customer because of YOUR identification mistakes does not fall under acceptable business ettiquette. i also ask that the seller stop advertising one product as another. in the real world, we call that ripping people off.
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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7729518 - 12/07/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Good job. The principle is more important than the few dollars.

(You might have more credibility if you capitalize your first letters though. Stupid, but thats the way the world is.)


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: DieCommie]
    #7730040 - 12/07/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I agree. Capitalize your first letters.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: freddurgan]
    #7730129 - 12/07/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

yeah only some lazy pothead wouldn't take the time to capitalize and use punctuation


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: DieCommie]
    #7733346 - 12/08/07 01:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Good job. The principle is more important than the few dollars.

(You might have more credibility if you capitalize your first letters though. Stupid, but thats the way the world is.)




that is the only reason i am doing this. the principle. i dont give a fuck about $4, its the fact that she was so rude to me.

yeah..... i thought about this after i sent it commie. owell, hopefully it doesnt hurt me too much lol.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7733422 - 12/08/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Well, I don't have anything to say, I just want this thread to be easily findable in my account so I can read the end of this bitch-thrashing.

Best of luck!


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7733484 - 12/08/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

give us her ebay ID so we can order seeds from her then bitch about it.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7733491 - 12/08/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

It might just be me, but it seems like your end of the argument was severely lacking some good points. and it would have been much more effective without calling her grade-school names

:shrug:
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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7734694 - 12/08/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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ApJunkie said:
Well, I don't have anything to say, I just want this thread to be easily findable in my account so I can read the end of this bitch-thrashing.

Best of luck!




haha. thanx. no word back from paypal yet.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7734697 - 12/08/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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give us her ebay ID so we can order seeds from her then bitch about it.




http://stores.ebay.com/Garden-of-Eagan


just do me a favor and make no reference of me or the shroomery, that may hinder my claim. thanks muchly. :awesome:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Loaf]
    #7734706 - 12/08/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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It might just be me, but it seems like your end of the argument was severely lacking some good points. and it would have been much more effective without calling her grade-school names

:shrug:
Could just be me though




in hindsight i will admit that i shouldnt have resorted to that, but i only did after she insulted me and accused me of some absurd shit. additionally i hadnt planned on making a claim over it. not until i consulted my fine peers here at the shroomery :smile:

i didnt call her a bitch until she called me a druggie :shrug:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: rawtoxic]
    #7734755 - 12/08/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i say she herself bought those seeds to get high and found out they are not the true seeds so decided to sell them herself, that would prove why she jumped straight to that conclusion.


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: LeftyBurnz]
    #7734793 - 12/08/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Some absurd shit like calling you a druggie? :grin:

When I read the email correspondence you posted my thought was that it's unfortunate that you resorted to namecalling.

You also let her know you know quite a bit about the chemicals in the seeds. She could use the namecalling and your expertise on illicit substances against you.

If its Ololiuqui, hey thats even a rarer find :smile:


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: highdroponics]
    #7734800 - 12/08/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

she seemed like one of those older uppity bitches who look down upon anyone who even thinks of trying any kind of mind altering substance. i mean, she claimed to be selling the "non narcotic" strain of HBWR. dumbass. lol


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Re: Bitch on Ebay. [Re: Asante]
    #7734835 - 12/08/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Some absurd shit like calling you a druggie? :grin:

When I read the email correspondence you posted my thought was that it's unfortunate that you resorted to namecalling.

You also let her know you know quite a bit about the chemicals in the seeds. She could use the namecalling and your expertise on illicit substances against you.

If its Ololiuqui, hey thats even a rarer find :smile:




exactly! the nerve.... i wouldnt dare take any drug knowingly :smirk: and plus, she jumped to all kinds of conclusions to me simply letting her know that they were not the seeds she was advertising. it was ridiculous.

yeah i know, she irritated me like never before though. ive NEVER encountered anything like this on ebay.... maybe OTD.... but not ebay. lol.

i thought about that too, however, knowledge isnt admittance of guilt. just because i am aware of the chemicals inside of the seeds doesnt mean im a druggie. hell, just about any experienced gardener knows of the chemicals in morning glories, HBWR, brugmansia and other assorted botanicals. just like farmers know that people like to come steal shrooms from their cowshit.... doesnt mean theyve ever done it themselves.

i hope it is ololiuqui. not sure yet. i was going to post pictures but the computer my camera is on isnt working correctly right now :crankey:


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