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Robo
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Re: My dream pill [Re: mikeytro]
#7725242 - 12/06/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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mikeytro said: so you're telling me that E pills cut with meth dont give you a speedy high because there cant possibly be enough in it to get you high??
They can, it's just a real cheap and shitty high.
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Robo
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Ness1]
#7725246 - 12/06/07 04:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ness1 said: The pill would not be popular. It wouldn't make any sense for it to be. Where did you hear about it? I can't see that pill being popular in any universe. If that pill actually existed, the coke would kill the MDMA, leaving you with a shitty ketamine buzz. Doesn't sound like much fun at all.
What are you even talking about cocaine and MDMA are both stimulants, why in the world would it 'kill the high'.
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7725249 - 12/06/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oh yeah, that's another thing. You're basically saying coke = meth which makes no sense. They're completely different chemicals. Speedy pills are cut with meth, NOT coke. I'm adamant about this because one of the myths I hear all the time is that E pills are heroin and cocaine in one pill which is utterly wrong. Myths are horrible things and the media does nothing to quell them, they just spread them.
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mikeytro
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7725251 - 12/06/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Omni said:
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mikeytro said: so you're telling me that E pills cut with meth dont give you a speedy high because there cant possibly be enough in it to get you high??
They can, it's just a real cheap and shitty high.
I was being sarcastic yo 
Ness1 - like I stated I dont remember where I read it or when. I'm not making it up though unless I'm completely delusional. I will try and find the article as for it not being fun thats your opinion
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7725255 - 12/06/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Omni said:
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Ness1 said: The pill would not be popular. It wouldn't make any sense for it to be. Where did you hear about it? I can't see that pill being popular in any universe. If that pill actually existed, the coke would kill the MDMA, leaving you with a shitty ketamine buzz. Doesn't sound like much fun at all.
What are you even talking about cocaine and MDMA are both stimulants, why in the world would it 'kill the high'.
Give me some time to find it again. Cocaine pretty much cancels out MDMA, lemme look up why again.
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Ness1]
#7725263 - 12/06/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ness1 said: Oh yeah, that's another thing. You're basically saying coke = meth which makes no sense. They're completely different chemicals. Speedy pills are cut with meth, NOT coke. I'm adamant about this because one of the myths I hear all the time is that E pills are heroin and cocaine in one pill which is utterly wrong. Myths are horrible things and the media does nothing to quell them, they just spread them.
I was only comparing them because the size of a dose is roughly the same. thats it.
I never said E pills are cut with coke
e pills are heroin and cocaine?? what the fuck is that. (no offense towards you, just who ever thought that is in their own universe)
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Robo
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Re: My dream pill [Re: mikeytro]
#7725265 - 12/06/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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E pills have been cut with everything under the sun. That's no myth.
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Ness1]
#7725267 - 12/06/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ness1 said:
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Omni said:
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Ness1 said: The pill would not be popular. It wouldn't make any sense for it to be. Where did you hear about it? I can't see that pill being popular in any universe. If that pill actually existed, the coke would kill the MDMA, leaving you with a shitty ketamine buzz. Doesn't sound like much fun at all.
What are you even talking about cocaine and MDMA are both stimulants, why in the world would it 'kill the high'.
Give me some time to find it again. Cocaine pretty much cancels out MDMA, lemme look up why again.
I dont believe mdma is a stimulant, however thats just my hunch however your theory that coke cancels out the mdma high is very doubtful in my opinion they are the two main club drugs and I know many people who use both in the same night
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7725270 - 12/06/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Omni said: E pills have been cut with everything under the sun. That's no myth.
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Robo
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Ness1]
#7725272 - 12/06/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ness1 said: Give me some time to find it again. Cocaine pretty much cancels out MDMA, lemme look up why again.
By all means, please do
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7725276 - 12/06/07 04:38 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you can find that info I'll eat my own shoe
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7725286 - 12/06/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok so I couldnt find the exact article I read but heres a similar one: http://www.timeout.com/london/clubs/features/2830.html
I was a little off because I'm not sure if its all of them mixed into one or just a drug that takes on the effects of all of them
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Re: My dream pill [Re: mikeytro]
#7725297 - 12/06/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cocaine + MDMA experiences Look at 6th trip report down, good god 
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.cgi?S1=13&S2=3&C1=-1&Str=
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7728318 - 12/07/07 11:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Alright, well, looking back on that I guess I was kind of being a douchebag a bit. Sorry 'bout that. Whenever I hear something I perceive as misinformation about drugs, I just get a little bit crazy >_<. As it turns out, cocaine and MDMA are not compatible just like I said. Basically, cocaine has an equal or higher affinity to the mechanisms in your brain that MDMA binds to, so cocaine will interfere with MDMA's release of serotonin.
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Ness1]
#7728547 - 12/07/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Robo
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Re: My dream pill [Re: donvliet]
#7728571 - 12/07/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Something's up. Because people take 2C-B,2C-E,etc. with MDMA all the time. The dosage of the 2C-T-7 was said to be unknown, he must have taken a lot. Common dose for 2C-T-7 is 15-30 mg, in comparison to the 200mg MDMA he took that's not that much. Perhaps he had a lot of 2C-T-7 and thought he could take more than he actually could or didn't do his research.
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donvliet
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7729066 - 12/07/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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there were more 2C-T-7 deaths: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/2ct7_death1.shtml
2C-T-7 is an MAOI and so it's dangerous to combine with MDMA (and a lot of other stuff) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2C-T-7#Pharmacology
2C-B and 2C-E aren't MAOIs so they don't have the same risk. The 2C-T-x group on the other hand are MAOIs.
Edited by donvliet (12/07/07 02:47 PM)
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Robo
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Re: My dream pill [Re: donvliet]
#7729317 - 12/07/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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My mistake, it is an MAOI isn't it  That explains it I guess.
Edited by Ombient (12/07/07 04:09 PM)
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Re: My dream pill [Re: Robo]
#7729328 - 12/07/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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we got a real genius on our hands
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Robo
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My bad
Edited by Ombient (12/07/07 03:58 PM)
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