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Best abduction story I've ever heard.
#7724953 - 12/06/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you are at all interested in the alien abduction field and havn't heard the story of Jim Sparks, take the time to listen to this interview. Trust me, you will not regret it. Unbelievable detail from 18 years of being abducted. I got totally sucked into it and, quite honestly, have never been so facinated by anything.
It's about 2.5 hrs for all 16 parts so if you have an evening to kill, put on the headphones and give it a listen.
Jim Sparks Alien Abduction Interview
*edit* for some reason a bunch of the parts from this interview are now gone from youtube. i have changed the link to a search for another interview where he tells the same story.
btw, i bought his book 'the keepers' and read it in one day. very interesting.
Edited by Scratcher (12/20/07 01:21 PM)
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Scratcher]
#7725383 - 12/06/07 05:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: 2FiNiTe]
#7726296 - 12/06/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'll give it a whirl
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: mushroomplume]
#7726430 - 12/06/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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boy.
this guys story is pretty out there. good story, real or not.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: mushroomplume]
#7727325 - 12/07/07 03:12 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the story lost all credibility when he said he was drinking vodka straight from the bottle and the aliens came walking through the walls. I pretty much shut it off at that point.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Stein]
#7727362 - 12/07/07 04:06 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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> and the aliens came walking through the walls.
If Santa can make it down a chimney, then aliens can certainly walk through walls.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Seuss]
#7727381 - 12/07/07 04:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Seuss]
#7729493 - 12/07/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seuss said: > and the aliens came walking through the walls.
If Santa can make it down a chimney, then aliens can certainly walk through walls.
this is true.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Ginseng1]
#7729575 - 12/07/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've walked through walls before (on drugs) so I can believe it.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Scratcher]
#7732657 - 12/08/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cool, cheers!
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Stein]
#7750976 - 12/12/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think the story lost all credibility when he said he was drinking vodka straight from the bottle and the aliens came walking through the walls. I pretty much shut it off at that point.
What kinda vodka do you drink and where can I get some?
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: jonnyjonjonjon]
#7751151 - 12/12/07 08:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If your really interested in this stuff then read about DMT. In theory DMT could be naturally produced in your brain when you sleep, and with different fluctuations could be the cause for abduction-like experiences.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
#7752683 - 12/13/07 06:43 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think DMT can explain many alien abduction cases.
Theres so many independent reports of people experiencing it while driving, witnessed events or just while awake - as in the case here. The guy explains that the first few times it happened he was asleep but he's had loads of times when he's been wide awake. He also states that he didn't really believe it himself at first until the physical evidence started showing up.
Also, that vodka part doesn't make it lose any credibility - he said he was suffering regular abduction. The time he was drinking vodka was years after he realized it was something real going on. He was drinking the vodka because he was trying to pluck up the courage to try and shoot an alien before it abducted him.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Ego Death]
#7759486 - 12/14/07 06:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ego Death said: I don't think DMT can explain many alien abduction cases.
Theres so many independent reports of people experiencing it while driving, witnessed events or just while awake - as in the case here. The guy explains that the first few times it happened he was asleep but he's had loads of times when he's been wide awake. He also states that he didn't really believe it himself at first until the physical evidence started showing up.
Also, that vodka part doesn't make it lose any credibility - he said he was suffering regular abduction. The time he was drinking vodka was years after he realized it was something real going on. He was drinking the vodka because he was trying to pluck up the courage to try and shoot an alien before it abducted him.
Keeping in mind most alien abductions happen at night, while a person was asleep, DMT would be the perfect explanation for most abduction cases. If you look into it enough most abductions happen around 3a.m. when you brains pumping out the most Melatonin of the night and theoretically DMT release.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
#7761242 - 12/15/07 09:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I disagree,
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Theres so many independent reports of people experiencing it while driving
Most credible abduction cases have not happened while people are asleep.
Barney and Betty Hill - two people abducted while driving Travis Walton - Abducted from a woods and with independent witnesses Pascagoula river incident - 2 people abducted while fishing
If someone dreamed they were abducted it would be silly to assume it was anything but a dream. I dream lots of stuff but I know it is a dream and not reality. So do most people.
Besides the fact of DMT even being released is only theory. Theres a big lot a chasm jumping going on to say DMT release in dreams is solely to blame for alleged abduction.
http://ufos.about.com/od/aliensalienabduction/a/bestabductions.htm
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Ego Death]
#7764374 - 12/16/07 12:57 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The 'incidents' you note are just stories with no corroborating evidence except for another's story.
Many claimed abductees have been studied in sleep centers and not a single body has ever disappeared even though some claimed to have been abducted while there.
Case closed.
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what about implants? This artist/inventor claims to have been abducted and discovered an implant in his head during a dentist visit. He says that the information for his ideas comes from the implant.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Jack Albertson]
#7765057 - 12/16/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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no corroborating evidence
Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corroborating_evidence
http://ufos.about.com/od/aliensalienabduction/p/pascagoula.htm Lie detector tests and independent witnesses IS corroborating evidence.
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Case closed
LOL, theres plenty of corroborating evidence in the mass of info provided on the site I linked. Clearly you didn't read any of it.
Case closed? You should never close a case because of the possibility of new information coming to light.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Ego Death]
#7765776 - 12/16/07 02:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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If the person taking the lie detector test truly believes he was abducted then it will show up as him being truthful. That still doesnt rule out the fact that it was a dream,and that he thought it was a real experience.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Ego Death]
#7765936 - 12/16/07 03:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lie detector tests and independent witnesses IS corroborating evidence.
Lie detector tests? Are you joking? Not about taking them, but as evidence? Have you ever seen a polygraph printout? You get one guess why a court of law won't allow them.
Corroborating evidence is a husband backing up his wife and friends backing up friends? Words can't possibly be faked, eh?
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Jack Albertson]
#7765958 - 12/16/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What about implants? Scar tissue, benign growths, cysts, fibroids, foreign objects such as shards of glass and so on. Nothing technological nor non-terran has ever been removed.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: CokedUpHobit64]
#7766032 - 12/16/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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CokedUpHobit64 said: If the person taking the lie detector test truly believes he was abducted then it will show up as him being truthful. That still doesnt rule out the fact that it was a dream,and that he thought it was a real experience.
Read it ffs!
You think 2 people fishing both have the same dream? No you just make assertions without looking at the evidence.
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If you was advanced enough to get here would you be sticking FM transceivers into somebody? How can we speculate on the nature of an implants? How can we speculate if an implant is from et? Unless its a completely undiscovered compound, even then it would not be believed as being from ET no matter how the person claimed it got there.
The fact is theres a hell of a lot of people with corroborating evidence that are experiencing abduction. Often not whilst asleep as I have shown in my links above.
How can that be written off as "case closed" under the ruse of logic?
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I think people have great difficulty accepting that higher beings than themselves exist.
People are not willing to accept that they are not 100% safe.
You can think to yourself that will never happen to me or thats not real and thats your piece of mind. Thats why people who have not experienced it first hand cannot accept the possibility of its truth.
I think its more than possible, its likely. When you examine the weight of evidence.
Funny how some of the governments own top researchers into the phenomena became believers after a few years of research (Hynek, Pope). Theres much more too it than you surface scratchers would like to admit.
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OrgoneConclusion said: What about implants? Scar tissue, benign growths, cysts, fibroids, foreign objects such as shards of glass and so on. Nothing technological nor non-terran has ever been removed.
i was watching a special on jellyfish the other day and we injected some w/ a latex based dye.
Not even humans always use the most high tech methods available.
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Ego Death]
#7769697 - 12/17/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I absolutely agree with you Ego. Theres many aspects of the phenomenon that can never be explained. I've experienced several things in my life to lead me without doubts that there are higher beings, and they might be visiting earth.
I think without first hand experiences like you said its a brick wall for most people. They simply can't or more likely WON'T wrap their minds around. I was always skeptical until evidence and experience dropped into my lap. Then examining other things you soon realize, its a lot more LIKELY that there are higher beings than not.
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OrgoneConclusion said: What about implants? Scar tissue, benign growths, cysts, fibroids, foreign objects such as shards of glass and so on. Nothing technological nor non-terran has ever been removed.
Nanotechnologies made of alloy compounds that do not naturally occur on this planet. Things have been located and removed, how can you say nothing has ever been removed when that simply isnt true?
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Re: Best abduction story I've ever heard. [Re: Jack Albertson]
#7774393 - 12/18/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nanotechnologies made of alloy compounds that do not naturally occur on this planet.
Disregarding the fact that this is NOT a complete sentence (see my article on grammar, logic and believers), a link to a certified lab report would be more helpful than your sayso.
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did yuo watch the vid i posted? and please let's be serious, a certified lab report? let me find a notary.
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