|
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
|
Enothe
Proliferater



Registered: 11/11/07
Posts: 149
Last seen: 10 years, 1 month
|
|
this might be all hype as well, but ive heard that shrooms grown on poo give more visuals than grown with PF tek. is thier any chance of the substrate effecting the type of trip? not necessarily the potency?
its probly once again all genetics but might as well bust another myth while we are at it
-------------------- "Never Knows Best"
|
Nibin
Getting there



Registered: 11/29/05
Posts: 4,480
Last seen: 10 years, 8 months
|
Re: Manure vs BRF [Re: Enothe]
#7727385 - 12/07/07 04:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
IMHO I think it's all in your head. If you think you are going to get a more visual trip, you will get it.
With cannabis the different proportions of the cannabinoids (mainly THC , CBD and CBN) will give different effects, but unless there are more active compounds in mushrooms than Psylobicin/Psylocin I can't see how you can get different effects if the concentrations are the same.
-------------------- Newcomers guide-----> For all things shroomy
|
veda_sticks
Cultivator




Registered: 07/29/07
Posts: 14,191
Loc: UK
Last seen: 4 years, 25 days
|
|
I just started doing that, i added a little extra brf to see what happens. I Have a cake on its third flush, it produces about 6 pins, 5 aborted and 1 grew massiv, 8 inches long maybe longer !!
First and seconds flushes were good.
Anyway back to the point.
BRF and poo both have there places, and i dont think 1 is more potent than the other, im sure i heard that brf is plenty nuitricious.
It would be very hard to judge potency of mushrooms just by taking them, the effects of mushrooms are so varied not only between trips but everybody is different. For my the visuals are very breathing and shift in time with music, my brother, lights turn red and the room squishes very small like a corrider and expands etc, he has a totally different trip from me off the same shrooms.
There may be some truth, as the ratio of psylocibe to psylocin could have an effect on the trip.
It could be a while before anybody fully understands how mushrooms produce the unique effects they do.
What ever way you decide to grow shrooms, they wil most certainly work. If your unlucky to get an umpotent fruits, start over again.
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
|
bryanbzl
Spawn Runner



Registered: 03/11/07
Posts: 563
Last seen: 5 years, 10 months
|
|
the more BRF in your cakes the more they will grow... it may not be substantial, but the more BRF the higher your yield.. thats why i am currently using full BR jars which are still colonizing. should produce about 3 times more than regular PF tek jars but will need more maintenance.
-------------------- Cheers, bzl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children." conclusion: poor fucking children of the early 1900's.
|
bryanbzl
Spawn Runner



Registered: 03/11/07
Posts: 563
Last seen: 5 years, 10 months
|
Re: Manure vs BRF [Re: bryanbzl]
#7727724 - 12/07/07 08:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
1 part BRF 2 part VERM
VS
3 part Whole brown rice (cooked)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 times the amount of food and 3 times the amount of yield (approx.)
-------------------- Cheers, bzl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children." conclusion: poor fucking children of the early 1900's.
|
veda_sticks
Cultivator




Registered: 07/29/07
Posts: 14,191
Loc: UK
Last seen: 4 years, 25 days
|
Re: Manure vs BRF [Re: bryanbzl]
#7727786 - 12/07/07 08:53 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Interesting, is there a good method of preparing the rice??? I searched around a bit and cant find any decent information.
I have some brown rice that is doing nothing, no coffee grinder. Would be an interesting experiment.
Whats the best way to get the moisture content right. I know that when cooking rice its generaly 2-3 times as much water as rice, but for a substrate would be too soggy. Think that 1 to 1 rice and water cooked?
Also should the rice be cooked while pressure cooked, or should it be cooked first then loaded into jars and sterilised.
I feel an experiment coming on (i know its done before but i wanna try something different)
-------------------- PF TEK - writeup by EvilMushroom666 Lets Grow Mushrooms - RogerRabbit & RoadKills website with sample videos plus the full PF TEK video series. Alot of great information - BUY THE DVD Cakes can and will pin! - So you think cakes suck for pins. Your wrong Franks Simple Coir/Verm Tek Franks Proper Pasturisation Tek Franks Spawning To Bulk - Monotub Professor Pinheads RTV Injection Port Tek Foo Mans No Soak WBS Prep Tek
|
DJYoshaBYD


Registered: 04/07/07
Posts: 2,405
|
|
they just take forrrreeevvvveeerrr to colonize if you are using just brown rice.. trust me.. have tried it.. just make more jars and case them.. that will get you more of a yield than waiting a month or so extra for a 1/2 pint of full brown rice to colonize... that is just in my experience though.. you may have a "white thumb" for shroom gardening, and get them to grow fast.. but not for me.. ssslllooowwww in just br without vermiculite
|
drwatson
Slacker



Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 686
Loc: nowhere land
Last seen: 11 years, 2 months
|
|
Personally I think I might just combine them and start putting BRF in my Hpoo. I've seen a lot of people doing that so why not? WBS, Hpoo, Coffee grounds, BRF, a tsp of veggie oil and boom.
We'll See I guess. I'll be throwing it all together tonight when I get off work and spawn tomorrow afternoon sometime...
|
RogerRabbit
Bans for Pleasure



Registered: 03/26/03
Posts: 42,214
Loc: Seattle
Last seen: 11 months, 3 days
|
Re: Manure vs BRF [Re: bryanbzl]
#7728824 - 12/07/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
|
|
Quote:
bryanbzl said: 1 part BRF 2 part VERM
VS
3 part Whole brown rice (cooked)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
3 times the amount of food and 3 times the amount of yield (approx.)
Too bad in actual practice, it doesn't work that way. If you're wanting to use straight grains, I'd suggest rye. You'll get far more performance than from rice. Don't forget to case them. RR
-------------------- Download Let's Grow Mushrooms semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat "I've never had a failed experiment. I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work." Thomas Edison
|
bryanbzl
Spawn Runner



Registered: 03/11/07
Posts: 563
Last seen: 5 years, 10 months
|
|
yea exactly thats why i said approx.
-------------------- Cheers, bzl -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From 1898 through to 1910 heroin was marketed as a non-addictive morphine substitute and cough medicine for children." conclusion: poor fucking children of the early 1900's.
|
|