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badchad
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: Shroomism]
#7723189 - 12/06/07 05:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said:
here's a few. There's actually been research that shows marijuana does indeed have a neuro-protective effect and is especially helpful when combined with MDMA as it lessens the damage it (MDMA) does. But I cant find the exact study right now and dont feel like digging for it.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Neurology/GeneralNeurology/tb/1934 http://www.springerlink.com/content/rr542v216q821176/
And this is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about.
If you actually find the above study, the investigators used a compound called HU-210, which is a synthetic cannabinoid. Other than binding to cannabinoid receptors, there is absolutely no evidence that it acts in any way similar to marijuana. The researchers gave an uncharacterized dose to rats, and found some neurogenesis.
This is a far cry from the blanket statement "marijuana promotes neuronal growth". However, because of the pro-marijuana bias of a lot of organizations, this is their interpretation.
This is why citing erowid.org as a "source" in a classroom setting is not a good thing to do, and would be completely unacceptable in a non-highschool level of class.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: AaronEvil]
#7723294 - 12/06/07 06:51 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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AaronEvil said: there isnt any of that artifical shit in pot.
Any of what artificial shit. You mean chemicals? what sort of pot do you smoke? i think it is safe to say that most pot is grown using chemicals these days.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: Artnotwar]
#7723320 - 12/06/07 07:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can grow pot organically if you really wanted.. after you grow a plant you flush the fertilizer out, so you don't smoke it.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: Artnotwar]
#7723321 - 12/06/07 07:05 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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I believe pot is a gateway drug, but not for the reasons society lists it as so. They say once you smoke weed you need better & harder drugs to get "a fix (hahaha)", but that is far from reality.
In actuality, most people who start smoking weed and then move on up the drug-ladder do so because they've been recently introduced to the drug culture - and who doesn't like the drug culture!
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: memes]
#7723325 - 12/06/07 07:08 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Actually most people that do hard drugs drank alcohol LONG before they even tried pot, therefor alcohol is more of a gateway drug. There's no logic behind the "gateway" shit other than then the scare tactics of DARE, how are you going to say that weed makes you try different drugs. I know so many people who will only smoke pot.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7723335 - 12/06/07 07:15 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Caribou_Lou said: You can grow pot organically if you really wanted.. after you grow a plant you flush the fertilizer out, so you don't smoke it.
no traces of chemichals?
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: Scar]
#7723338 - 12/06/07 07:16 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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How it DOESN'T kill your brain cells it doesn't cause cancer studies are proving its a neuron protector It only effects your memory when your on it, so it doesn't damage your brain. How it helps prevent some diseases, like mad cow disease etc. also its helps prevent stroke.
that's just reversed propaganda, the way you want it to bring to them.
smoking is bad and can cause cancer, also pot smoking.
If you want to be honest and give a GOOD class, so that your teachter can be proud of you, don't just start promoting weed like you're planning too. Educate about both sides: positive sides like that it can be used in medicine, AND negative sides, like smoking is bad for you, that it makes you a lazy couch potato is you smoke a lot (big chance).
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It only effects your memory when your on it, so it doesn't damage your brain.
it also effects your memory to days after, also your concentration! that doens't mean it damaged your brain since you'll be back to full capacity after not smoking anymore for a while, but it has negative effects.
please read up on both negative and positive sides
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: Caribou_Lou]
#7723394 - 12/06/07 07:37 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Caribou_Lou said: The reason that cigarettes cause cancer is because of the radiation, not from "carcinogens".
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: TheCow]
#7723451 - 12/06/07 08:01 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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personally i'd leave out the gateway drug part. i think that's a very subjective point. For me personally it was a gateway drug. i smoked pot, then started doing research on it, to see how bad it really was, found out it wasn't all that bad for you. before i had tried it, i had believed that you hallucinate from smoking it.
anyway was pretty young at that stage, was just about to head into high school. anyway did my research on how bad it actually was, found out it wasn't that bad. read into lsd and mushrooms because they were what i expected from weed at first. when i was around 16/17 then i decided i was mature enough and ready for the experience, and bought shrooms. and then binged on salvia etc.
it wasn't necessarily a bad gateway. i am alright in the head, and have cut down heavily on my druig intake. but it was still a gateway for me. didnt drink alcohol until i was 17.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: AaronEvil]
#7723461 - 12/06/07 08:04 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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weeed is full of carcinogens. carcinogens cause cancer.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: TheCow]
#7723685 - 12/06/07 09:26 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheCow said:
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Caribou_Lou said: The reason that cigarettes cause cancer is because of the radiation, not from "carcinogens".
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Agreed.... anything that causes cancer is technically a carcinogen
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: stefan]
#7723793 - 12/06/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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stefan said:
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How it DOESN'T kill your brain cells it doesn't cause cancer studies are proving its a neuron protector It only effects your memory when your on it, so it doesn't damage your brain. How it helps prevent some diseases, like mad cow disease etc. also its helps prevent stroke.
that's just reversed propaganda, the way you want it to bring to them.
smoking is bad and can cause cancer, also pot smoking.
If you want to be honest and give a GOOD class, so that your teachter can be proud of you, don't just start promoting weed like you're planning too. Educate about both sides: positive sides like that it can be used in medicine, AND negative sides, like smoking is bad for you, that it makes you a lazy couch potato is you smoke a lot (big chance).
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It only effects your memory when your on it, so it doesn't damage your brain.
it also effects your memory to days after, also your concentration! that doens't mean it damaged your brain since you'll be back to full capacity after not smoking anymore for a while, but it has negative effects.
please read up on both negative and positive sides
Ah yes i completely agree, i was going to mention that it does make you lazy and all the things you mentioned. As much as i would like too advocate pot, it would be the exact opposite of what I'm trying to do. I just want to spread the facts, and not what the text book says about it. It makes me terribly sad when i ask people who dont smoke it what they know about the drug and the reply Ive gotten back from the people Ive asked is "nothing...just that its bad." i want to get rid of this shroud of ignorance.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: TheCow]
#7724062 - 12/06/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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TheCow said:
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Caribou_Lou said: The reason that cigarettes cause cancer is because of the radiation, not from "carcinogens".
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I agree. This statement alone is enough to ruin any credibility that Caribou_Lou had.
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car·cin·o·gen –noun Pathology. any substance or agent that tends to produce a cancer.
The radioactive isotopes found in all smoke are, as a matter of fact, potential carcinogens.
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Re: I get to teach my class !!! [Re: Scar]
#7724081 - 12/06/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you are going to be making these claims that it can solve all these problems, make sure you have a nice amount of sources to back it up. And make sure to outline the negative effects of Marijuana so you don't look like a total biased asshole. And definitely get high beforehand.
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