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Ogla



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Did man land on the Moon?
#7723891 - 12/06/07 10:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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How many people here think man landed on the Moon? I want to belief, But compelling evidence says otherwise. People analyzing the photos saying the lighting comes from different sources. NASA, only building rockets back then and not capsules. Anyways, what do you guys think? Did man land on the moon?
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Ogla]
#7723941 - 12/06/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've seen some weak evidence supporting the theory but nothing that has convinced me me.
I believe man landed on the moon.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: MrKite1]
#7723995 - 12/06/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Me mig ht ave, but these crazy shit going on on the moon that we dont know about. Thats why we dont go anymore. And thats why some of the apollo missions blew the fuck up. Too much secrecy.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Ginseng1]
#7724018 - 12/06/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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On July 20th, 1969 the Apollo dream became a reality when Neil Armstrong took the first step on the moon. Of course the price for this success was marred with failures that preceded this event such as the deaths of many of NASA workers and even some astronauts. Apollo did not end with the landing of man on the moon and other lives would be lost in future Apollo missions.
Lives are/were being lost because US gov doesnt want the truth to come out.
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Edited by Ginseng1 (12/06/07 11:36 AM)
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Ogla]
#7724133 - 12/06/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm open to the idea man has been to the moon, but not at the time that it was officially declared and televised.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7724243 - 12/06/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not sure why anyone would say this.
It seems like revisionist history to say we haven't been there when the evidence to the contrary is absolutely overwhelming.
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probably because the U.S. government has become really shady ever since WWII.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Ogla]
#7724377 - 12/06/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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On one particular moon landing, the astronauts placed a big mirror on the moon. Back on earth, there is an observatory with a laser that shoots that laser beam at the mirror and counts the time it takes for the light to reflect back. Seems like a difficult feat to accomplish from a Hollywood studio.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: AlteredAgain]
#7724383 - 12/06/07 12:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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it really started to get bad after 1913 when the fed. reserve act was passed, but that was only a large step the in plot to subvert the people's government (should one have even existed) that had been underway since the revolutionary war.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Silversoul]
#7724491 - 12/06/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Silversoul said: On one particular moon landing, the astronauts placed a big mirror on the moon. Back on earth, there is an observatory with a laser that shoots that laser beam at the mirror and counts the time it takes for the light to reflect back. Seems like a difficult feat to accomplish from a Hollywood studio.
Thank you.
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Ogla



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yeah, i think man has made it to the moon, but i think the original moon landing must've been faked.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Ogla]
#7724778 - 12/06/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why? What makes you so sure?
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Ogla



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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Silversoul]
#7724948 - 12/06/07 03:18 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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well, watch the video. they say alota stuff that makes sense. even a reason to why nasa would do it. i watched all 12 videos thou. might not mention everything in this one.
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Ogla]
#7726349 - 12/06/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know how people can buy into the whole "we never landed on the moon" bull.
People are just dying to prove that something never happened. I don't understand why. Hell, even if we didn't land on the moon, does it even matter?
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I think it's one of the weakest conspiracy theories out there, next to holocaust denial. The lighting, the technology required, and all the other points can easily be addressed. And since I don't have the patience to address them, I'll refer you here:
http://www.braeunig.us/space/hoax.htm
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Silversoul]
#7726800 - 12/06/07 11:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think aliens are already on the moon anyways, so who cares what humans have done. It's all about the ETS!
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Re: Did man land on the Moon? [Re: Ogla]
#7727180 - 12/07/07 01:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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> But compelling evidence says otherwise
Incorrect. Only fantasy says otherwise. In the middle of the cold war, in the middle of a race to the moon, the Soviet Union would have taken any hint of fakery to discredit the US. Every single "it was faked" theory has been brutally debunked, in most cases with demonstrations of the various effects. See the site http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html as a starting point.
> People analyzing the photos saying the lighting comes from different sources.
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Bad: Another argument by the HBs deals with shadows. Several photos from the Moon are shown where objects on the lunar landscape have long shadows. If the Sun were the only light source, the program claims, the shadows should be parallel. The shadows are not parallel, and therefore the images are fake.
Good: This is an interesting claim on the part of the HBs, because on the surface (haha) it seems to make sense. However, let's assume the shadows are not parallel. One explanation is that there are (at least) two light sources, and that is certainly what many HBs are trying to imply. So if there are multiple light sources, where are the multiple shadows? Each object casts one shadow, so there can only be one light source.
Another explanation is that the light source is close to the objects; then it would also cast non-parallel shadows. However, a distant source can as well! In this case, the Sun really is the only source of light. The shadows are not parallel in the images because of perspective. Remember, you are looking at a three-dimensional scene, projected on a two-dimensional photograph. That causes distortions. When the Sun is low and shadows are long, objects at different distance do indeed appear to cast non-parallel shadows, even here on Earth. An example of that can be found at another debunking site. The scene (near the bottom of the above-linked page) shows objects with non-parallel shadows, distorted by perspective. If seen from above, all the shadows in the Apollo images would indeed look parallel. You can experience this for yourself; go outside on a clear day when the Sun is low in the sky and compare the direction of the shadows of near and far objects. You'll see that they appear to diverge. Here is a major claim of the HBs that you can disprove all by yourself! Don't take my word for it, go out and try!
Incidentally, the bright Earth in the sky will also cast shadows, but those would be very faint compared to the ones made by the Sun. So in a sense there are multiple shadows, but like not being able to see stars, the shadows are too faint to be seen against the very bright lunar surface. Again, you can test this yourself: go outside during full Moon and you'll see your shadow. Then walk over to a streetlamp. The light from the streetlamp will wash out the shadow cast by the Moon. You might still be able to see it faintly, but it would difficult against the much brighter landscape.
Also, see: http://www.apollo-hoax.me.uk/strangeshadows.html for pictorial examples.
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