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LearJet
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: Blutjager]
#7912774 - 01/21/08 10:50 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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half up the grain.
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flushme
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: Blutjager]
#7912775 - 01/21/08 10:51 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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Blutjager said: I have never even heard of it
steins "gardens and gifts" never? i thought those were like everywhere
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derx
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: flushme]
#7912778 - 01/21/08 10:51 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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i never heard of that place either.
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Blutjager
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: flushme]
#7912782 - 01/21/08 10:53 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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flushme said:
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Blutjager said: I have never even heard of it
steins "gardens and gifts" never? i thought those were like everywhere
Nope never
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flushme
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: Blutjager]
#7912823 - 01/21/08 11:03 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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you could probably order some if you dont wanna grind yours up
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Blutjager
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: flushme]
#7912851 - 01/21/08 11:06 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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flushme said: you could probably order some if you dont wanna grind yours up
Dont suppose ya have a quick cheap link ?
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flushme
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: Blutjager]
#7912963 - 01/21/08 11:27 PM (16 years, 11 days ago) |
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sorry they dont have an online store and when i visited the site i guess they are only located in WI, i think mycopath has powderform check that out
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shaggydogman
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: fahtster] 1
#8142579 - 03/13/08 06:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks Fahtster. This tek has completely fixed problems I was having with grains. More to do with my lids than anything else and making sure I payed close attention to the seal and cleaning the rim!!! I also love how clean my kitchen stays! 
A few weeks back I was preparing a few jars with this method, I loaded them in the PC, set the heat and waited until it started venting steam. I turned it down to the sweet spot and left it. After about 10 mins or so I realized the PC was a bit quiet. I had forgotten to set the pressure so it was just venting steam. I decided to open it up and see how things were. The rye had soaked up a lot more of the water than I had expected but there was none of the really wet grains at the bottom and none had burst. So I gave them all a good shake to mix em all up and set the PC off again this time set to 15psi. When they were done the moisture content at the end was spot on, very even and there were no burst kernels.
I now add 10-15 mins at the beginning of the PC run with no pressure, then a shake, it seems to even the moisture up quite well.
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Edited by shaggydogman (03/13/08 06:10 PM)
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fahtster
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nice... thats very interesting... kinda like doing a simmer in the jars lol thanks for the input.  
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shaggydogman
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: fahtster]
#8145045 - 03/14/08 07:32 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's like a partial simmer in the jar. I do like the whole keep the grains in the jar routine... 
Just tried it again and I think I may have the times slightly out (too short).
I'm experimenting now with doing it at pressure, I think that would work better: 1. Giving the jars 10mins at 15 psi. 2. Remove from heat 3. Tighten jars and shake. 4. Loosen lids again and PC for the full 100mins
Not sure if it's worth the extra effort or not yet, as the moisture seems to settle over a day or so anyway. My PC is small so doesn't take long to get or release pressure. This might be a pain in arse for those big AA's.
Not sure of the best way or if it's even worth it, but I like the idea of simmering in the jar!
Needs further experimentation... 
Edit: Just got 4 jars out of the PC. 15 mins @15 psi, let the pressure out, then shake, then 100 mins @15psi and the grains at the end were spot on. 
Edited by shaggydogman (03/14/08 09:35 AM)
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TheBrewer
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I tried this tek yesterday using red hard winter wheat berries. I did PC for longer than you mentioned faht, probably closer to 1 hour 40 than an hour 10. The grain on top looks good, the bottom 2 inches are mush. Might I have used too much water or was my PCing just excessive?
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anonjon
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: Blutjager] 1
#11879926 - 01/22/10 03:55 PM (14 years, 9 days ago) |
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Blutjager said: Has anyone done this with bird seed,next time I use bird seed I'm thinking of giving this a try with some of the jars just for the hell of it but was wondering if there is anything different I may need to look out for ??
I think you're going to find that wbs will absorb less water, so using the 1/8 water above the grain is going to be too much.
I've been hydrating wbs in the pc. I forget which tek I read this in, so can't give credit, but here it is:
Rinse wbs in very hot water Let wbs drain for several hours, stir it occasionally. Load into jars and PC 90 minutes
thats it.
Keep in mind you're more likely to make it too wet than too dry. The amount of drain time / dry time is going to depend on your local rh. But you'll get a feel for the right wetness.
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thrasher64
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Re: Quick step Rye Prep [Re: anonjon]
#15158847 - 09/30/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago) |
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Newb old thread Res/bump
Trying this method out for first grain attempt, looks like it should work great 
Very handy!
Edited by thrasher64 (10/02/11 12:29 AM)
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