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Cowgold
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Hold on there, Madtown. We're talking about dollarmillionaires here.
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Madtowntripper
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Cowgold]
#7719368 - 12/05/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well Goddamn.
I can't stand this fucking bitching. If people want to eat healthy, they can. If they don't want to, they don't have to.
Nobody doesn't know Mcdonalds is killing them.
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CherryBom
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If you spend 6 dollars a meal at Mcdonalds, which is about what I spend when I go there, thats nearly $20 a day.
And if you cannot shop for yourself for 20 dollars a day at a regular supermarket, you are not trying very hard.
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Lion
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Madtowntripper said: Well Goddamn.
I can't stand this fucking bitching. If people want to eat healthy, they can. If they don't want to, they don't have to.
Nobody doesn't know Mcdonalds is killing them.
True, but the larger problem is the extensive marketing to people in lower income brackets and getting kids hooked on addictice, ultra-unhealthy food at a young age. This may not be a personal problem for any of us but it's something worth trying to change in whatever way one can. It's worth bitching about because billions are being spent to trick Americans into killing their vitality, and not all of us have the tools of discernment or the alternative options to live healthier.
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Madtowntripper
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Lion]
#7719431 - 12/05/07 12:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nobody is tricking anyone!
Do you honestly believe that the parents of these children think Mcdonalds is healthy?
You really believe this?
Of course its not true. EVERYONE knows that shit is junk food. Parents just don't care. Its easy, fast, and it tastes good to children.
You cannot punish Mcdonalds for parents making bad choices. Last time I checked, they had a Grilled Chicken Sandwich on the menu. Salads too, even w/out disgustingly fattening cream-based dressings. I bet they sell more double cheeseburgers though.
Supply and Demand.
We Demand, They Supply.
Its the same reason you can't blame Colombia for the US Drug Problem. Mop up the demand, and the supply will cease to be necessary.
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Cowgold
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It's true that everyone knows that junk food is shit.
But what I think people don't yet fully apprehend is just how significantly organic dining will change the way they feel in the body and the mind.
One can easily say that eating healthy is good for you. But to actually feel the difference is a whole other story completely.
The experience is what convinces.
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For the longest time I didn't give a damn about my health. Then, at some point in college, I saw all the weight that I was gaining, and realized I couldn't keep on living the way I was. I started eating healthier and working out regularly. I was amazed at how good I felt. Unfortunately, you can't force people to get in that state of mind. They have to figure it out for themselves.
That said, there are certain steps that fast food can take without radically altering their menu. One of the biggest of these steps would be to eliminate trans fats, as KFC recently did.
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You cannot punish Mcdonalds for parents making bad choices. Last time I checked, they had a Grilled Chicken Sandwich on the menu. Salads too, even w/out disgustingly fattening cream-based dressings. I bet they sell more double cheeseburgers though.
I think that by spending millions on advertising unhealthy food, McDonalds is acting malevolently, particularly towards lower income people who have less food options and less time to prepare food at home. I also fault companies like Pepsi and Coke for signing contracts with public schools and public recreational facilities to hook schoolchildren on their drugs. If kids weren't being deliberately hooked on sugar, caffeine, and fatty foods, they would be less likely to turn to Big Macs and Big Gulps once the money's in their hands.
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Supply and Demand.
We Demand, They Supply.
Often heavy advertising campaigns create demand that would not exist otherwise. The most often cited example is diamonds, but junk food, pharmaceuticals, and trendy clothes are other examples. In cases like McDonalds, where so much money is poured into advertising addictive food, I think this is pretty malevolent.
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Madtowntripper
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There is only so much they can do.
The fats may be a bit more healthy, but KFC is still selling deep-fried chicken. If you were unhappy about the food choices they offered before, its likely that you still are.
The same with Mcdonalds. Their core business is junk food. Thats not going to change, as long as people want to eat it.
And they do.
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Silversoul said: Unfortunately, you can't force people to get in that state of mind. They have to figure it out for themselves.
I agree with you.
We need to be the change we wish to see in the world.
Example is very effective education.
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