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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: PyroBurns]
#7718920 - 12/05/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can agree on the less sugar ice creams, and dark chocolate. Hell, you can even substitute honey for sugar, which is actually healthy. But Diet Soda is no replacement for regular soda. Aspartame (the sweetener they use instead of sugar) is linked to all sorts of bad shit like cancer. I'm not sold on that Stevia crap either. But it's not even the sugar in soda that's the worst.. it's the combination of sugar, and phosphoric acid, and caffeine that makes it such a harmful cocktail of ingredients. Diet Soda isn't any better.
Even down to the milk. Milk is actually good for you... when it's not pasteurized and homogenized, and comes from hormone filled cows. The pastuerization process kills off all the essential acids and beneficial bacteria in milk which actually makes it unhealthy. Raw milk from grass fed cows is very good for you, but the pastuerized crap found in most commercial products is not.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Shroomism]
#7718985 - 12/05/07 10:05 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah diet soda is bad too, but it should help ween you from normal soda.
I used to drink 3 or 4 cans of soda a day, but it would have been far more if I didn't have to conserve. I just weened myself down by a can per week until it was finally gone. And I never really craved it again. Some people go the diet soda route to make it easier.
I'll still drink some diet soda every now and then but that's only when I'm really damn stressed and need to avoid overeating. I bought a pack this week to help overcome the finals.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: PyroBurns]
#7718998 - 12/05/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I always just thought diet soda was a total cop-out. Like the 300 lb woman who goes to mcdonalds, and order 2 Big macs, extra large fries and a Diet Coke please.. I'm trying to watch my weight. lol.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Shroomism]
#7719009 - 12/05/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well it does help not taking in extra calories.
When I get stressed, it's harder to get full. So it helps having a calorie free blob of strangely altered sugars carbonating in my stomach.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Shroomism]
#7719011 - 12/05/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Most of this I agree with but Shroomism have you tried whole unpasteurized milk? Yuck! Double yuck! THat shit is nasty.
It's kind of like drinking milk with fat globs floating in it.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Shroomism]
#7719015 - 12/05/07 10:16 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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i would never eat shit
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: mushbaby]
#7719023 - 12/05/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah I've had raw milk and I like it A LOT better than that pasteurized crap. The fat globs are supposed to be there.. it's good fat. I think it also HIGHLY depends on what the cows diet was like... like you are not supposed to be drinking raw milk from most of these cows who are grain-fed, with lots of hormones and shit.. that produces a very bad milk. The best milk comes from cows who eat mostly grass.
PyroBurns: I'm not sure where you're going with this whole calorie deal. Calories are good.. your body needs them for fuel. It just depends if you're eating the right calories. 2,000 calories from Mcdonalds does not = 2,000 calories from whole fruits and vegetables.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: PyroBurns]
#7719029 - 12/05/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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PyroBurns said: I'll still drink some diet soda every now and then but that's only when I'm really damn stressed and need to avoid overeating.
I wonder how that helps since aspartame has been found to actually stimulate appetite. Food companies know this. It sells more product.
Water really is the answer if one chooses to improve their health. There isn't much grey area when it comes to drinking liquids in my opinion.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: BIGSWANG]
#7719030 - 12/05/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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BIGSWANG said: i would never eat shit
Maybe you wouldn't.. but lots of people do
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Shroomism]
#7719032 - 12/05/07 10:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Where does one acquire raw milk? Isn't there a piece of legislation that makes pasteurization mandatory? Also, do you have a link that discusses the benefits of raw milk? I'm interested.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Shroomism]
#7719043 - 12/05/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said: PyroBurns: I'm not sure where you're going with this whole calorie deal. Calories are good.. your body needs them for fuel. It just depends if you're eating the right calories. 2,000 calories from Mcdonalds does not = 2,000 calories from whole fruits and vegetables.
Of course calories are good, but when you are so hungry you want to eat everything it's NOT good. And it's even better to have a 0 calorie thing make you stop wanting to eat.
"I wonder how that helps since aspartame actually stimulates appetite. Food companies know this. It sells more product.
Water really is the answer if one chooses to improve their health. There really isn't much grey area when it comes to drinking liquids in my opinion. "
Water is obviously the best. But it's kind of hard to be hungry with 2 cans of gas liquid in your stomach.
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robbyberto said: Where does one acquire raw milk? Isn't there a piece of legislation that makes pasteurization mandatory? Also, do you have a link that discusses the benefits of raw milk? I'm interested.
Raw milk sales is legal in 28 out of 50 states. I believe it can be imported though.
The most informative sites I have found on the subject: http://www.realmilk.com/what.html
http://www.realmilk.com/ http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/
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PyroBurns said: I'll still drink some diet soda every now and then but that's only when I'm really damn stressed and need to avoid overeating.
I wonder how that helps since aspartame has been found to actually stimulate appetite. Food companies know this. It sells more product.
Water really is the answer if one chooses to improve their health. There isn't much grey area when it comes to drinking liquids in my opinion.

Water is the most perfect thing in the material universe imo. Lao Tzu was spot on. I always feel very spiritual when I drink 6-8 glasses a day in addition to a balanced diet.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: PyroBurns]
#7719078 - 12/05/07 10:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Have you considered that perhaps your extreme feelings of hunger are being caused by the diet foods that you intake?
I would suggest an experiment in daily life where you switch to a wholly organic way of eating, and just see what kind of results you get.
When your body says its hungry, I don't believe it is asking to be filled with a zero calorie carbonated liquid.
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No, it's just asking for comfort food.
It could partly have something to do with my celiac's disease which I am doing my best to recover from. But it mainly just wants comfort food.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: PyroBurns]
#7719199 - 12/05/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It wants nourishment. 0 calories = 0 nourishment.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: Cowgold]
#7719208 - 12/05/07 11:07 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well too bad. It's all mental anyway.
I'm giving it more than enough nourishment, especially since I'm giving myself a recovery week.
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: PyroBurns]
#7719217 - 12/05/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the purer tjhe mineral the better the e[ner]g
honeys money
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Re: The Shit We Eat [Re: demiu5]
#7719326 - 12/05/07 11:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said: Which brings me to my next point.. why is "natural" food generally more expensive than the adulterated shit..shouldn't it be the other way around??
around here, we get 97+ (often upwards of 100) bushels of corn/acre using synthetic fertilizers. With only organic manure and (inorganic) minerals (ex. limestone), we get about 53 bu/ac.
Organic production could not sustain our population unless virtually everyone was growing food for themselves. Now, from here, this goes into population problems, energy problems, and the drive for money.
If similar statistics apply to all crops, I guess you have a point. However, the US tends to produce too much corn. That's why in addition to eating corn, we put all that nasty corn syrup into all our food products. On a side note, it's because of all their high need for fertilizer and pesticides that corn is unsustainable as a source of ethanol.
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All of you people are so funny.
If you want to eat a bare-bones diet like a person in a developing country, you can do it ridiculously cheap.
Rice is the staple food of most of the world for that reason, its DIRT CHEAP. And vegetables are cheap too. Whoever said they can eat at McDonalds for less than they can actual food is just plain lying.
If you spend 6 dollars a meal at Mcdonalds, which is about what I spend when I go there, thats nearly $20 a day.
And if you cannot shop for yourself for 20 dollars a day at a regular supermarket, you are not trying very hard.
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