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Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics
    #7717239 - 12/04/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

In your guys opinion what is the best psychedelic to experience rebirth on.  I've personally only had this wonderful thing happen to me on 4 grams of cubies.  What I mean by this is not just a life-changing experience(every trip for me thus far has been) but an experience that literally changed your fucking reality, as in EVERYTHING is new and vibrant PERMANENTLY.  Not just for a couple days or weeks but for the rest of your life.  Man it's a fucking beautiful thing...!!PeaCe:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717365 - 12/04/07 08:41 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

People have spoken of rebirth from ayahuasca experiences


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717376 - 12/04/07 08:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i experienced complete ego death my first acid experience. i dont really like considering it as having "changed" my perspective of life, but more of an earth-shattering realization of the raw truth.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: krosmo67]
    #7717393 - 12/04/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

my first ayahuasca experience was very similar to what you described. ive had very little anxiety(virtualy none at all). or depression since it. 2 years ago.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: krosmo67]
    #7717407 - 12/04/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

LSD, LSA and mushrooms (of which i've tried all 3, so i can't speak for DMT, or mescaline, or all the DOx and 2c drugs)

But for SURE you can have a powerfull ego-death and rebirth from all 3

it really depends on which you like more

for instance a dose is probably going to be the most vivid and lucid....but the shrooms are going to be very spiritual. Where the LSA is going to give intense visuals and be very spiritual at the same time


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: 2859558484]
    #7717415 - 12/04/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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my first ayahuasca experience was very similar to what you described. ive had very little anxiety(virtualy none at all). or depression since it. 2 years ago.




Yea man I wanna experience ayahuasca but I'm not gonna lie it sounds pretty fucking intense, and the nausea doesn't sound too great either..


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717425 - 12/04/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Being 'reborn' is a pretty big thing. It would have to be an absolutely mind bending ayahuasca experience.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: Robo]
    #7717462 - 12/04/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Being 'reborn' is a pretty big thing. It would have to be an absolutely mind bending ayahuasca experience.




I've done it on psilocybin so it can't be too much worse.  I've tripped plenty of times BTW but we'll see I guess :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717468 - 12/04/07 09:08 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

it was ayahuasca in the woods, with a few fresh cubies thrown in the brew...


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: 2859558484]
    #7717486 - 12/04/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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it was ayahuasca in the woods, with a few fresh cubies thrown in the brew...




Awesome man, my next psychedelic I'm going to do is mescaline though which should be a good experience.  Then from there we'll see I guess:thumbup:


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717488 - 12/04/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I've done it on psilocybin so it can't be too much worse.  I've tripped plenty of times BTW but we'll see I guess :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:



Doesn't even begin to compare to DMT, you're in for the ride of your life. You obviously have no clue :awesome:

It will transport you to a completely other dimension suspended between space and time, and allow contact with deities of the spirit realm :eek:


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: Robo]
    #7717506 - 12/04/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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I've done it on psilocybin so it can't be too much worse.  I've tripped plenty of times BTW but we'll see I guess :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:



Doesn't even begin to compare to DMT, you're in for the ride of your life. You obviously have no clue :awesome:

It will transport you to a completely other dimension suspended between space and time, and allow contact with deities of the spirit realm :eek:




I've experienced Salvia entities which was pretty intense and scary so I think I have an idea of the intensity level, but obviously dmt has different effects and when taken orally lasts way longer than salvia so yea it'll be pretty intense obviously:eek:


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717523 - 12/04/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

i havent experienced any entities... i think. just floating through fractal dimensions and infinity.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: 2859558484]
    #7717532 - 12/04/07 09:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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i havent experienced any entities... i think. just floating through fractal dimensions and infinity.




Are you talking aboot Salvia or orally taken DMT?


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717566 - 12/04/07 09:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Take a big enough dose I have experienced this felling on multiple substances.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717567 - 12/04/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

im talking about smoking deemsters and drinking yage.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: AtPeace]
    #7717595 - 12/04/07 09:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Take a big enough dose I have experienced this felling on multiple substances.




Permanently though?


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717825 - 12/04/07 10:35 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

8g's of mushrooms. life will never be the same.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717868 - 12/04/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well from what i hear and have experienced its damn near impossible to have permanent positive effects from psychedelics. sadly most people (including myself to some extent) who have amazing revelations about how they want to make their lives better and change go back to the way they were shortly after. for me i had one trip, that i will certainly never forget and it had definetly changed me for the better, allowing me to appreciate life and all the people around me so much more. but it far from makes me perfect or able to hang on to the feeling forever. life goes on, struggle begins again, and there will be good times and bad times.

because of this it seems that rather than life being permanently perfected, psychedelics have the ability to give one a new perspective of things, allowing them to either integrate their experiences, or forget about them.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: evolprim]
    #7717879 - 12/04/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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well from what i hear and have experienced its damn near impossible to have permanent positive effects from psychedelics. sadly most people (including myself to some extent) who have amazing revelations about how they want to make their lives better and change go back to the way they were shortly after. for me i had one trip, that i will certainly never forget and it had definetly changed me for the better, allowing me to appreciate life and all the people around me so much more. but it far from makes me perfect or able to hang on to the feeling forever. life goes on, struggle begins again, and there will be good times and bad times.

because of this it seems that rather than life being permanently perfected, psychedelics have the ability to give one a new perspective of things, allowing them to either integrate their experiences, or forget about them.




I think you misunderstood me, what I'm saying is my reality changed not my goals and aspirations and whatnot, but my reality. I don't think my reality will ever go back either(it's been a year since that trip).


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: MindGorilla]
    #7717897 - 12/04/07 11:02 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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8g's of mushrooms. life will never be the same.




lol, how does 8 g's compare to 4 g's?


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7717930 - 12/04/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

dunno what you mean. you mean visually. or how you view life?


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: evolprim]
    #7717965 - 12/04/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

My poinion is that psychedelics cans show you something beautiful but only a sober you can change it. You have to be reborn in your own sober mind not on a drug.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7725339 - 12/06/07 04:59 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Take a big enough dose I have experienced this felling on multiple substances.




Permanently though?




To a degree yes. I do not permanently feel like a newborn in a new world. I do feel personal growth and these lessons stay with me.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: AtPeace]
    #7725567 - 12/06/07 06:04 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

its typical for me on any dose of mushrooms to feel reborn or awakened.

now, ego death and rebirth is a different story...


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7725728 - 12/06/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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In your guys opinion what is the best psychedelic to experience rebirth on.  I've personally only had this wonderful thing happen to me on 4 grams of cubies.  What I mean by this is not just a life-changing experience(every trip for me thus far has been) but an experience that literally changed your fucking reality, as in EVERYTHING is new and vibrant PERMANENTLY.  Not just for a couple days or weeks but for the rest of your life.  Man it's a fucking beautiful thing...!!PeaCe:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:




Can you explain in more detail your changed perspective on reality.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: Orbus]
    #7725974 - 12/06/07 07:55 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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In your guys opinion what is the best psychedelic to experience rebirth on.  I've personally only had this wonderful thing happen to me on 4 grams of cubies.  What I mean by this is not just a life-changing experience(every trip for me thus far has been) but an experience that literally changed your fucking reality, as in EVERYTHING is new and vibrant PERMANENTLY.  Not just for a couple days or weeks but for the rest of your life.  Man it's a fucking beautiful thing...!!PeaCe:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:




Can you explain in more detail your changed perspective on reality.




Well, what I mean is that everything is new.  Almost as if the mushrooms reseted my brain, it's hard to explain really.  It's kinda like I died psychologically and when the trip was tapering off my brain tried to fill in the gaps as fast as possible but didn't do that great of a job lol.  You kinda have an idea of what I mean now?  It's some crazy shit guys..!!


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7726171 - 12/06/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Ive escaped the influence of the universe, watched it collapse, and then have seen it reborn with joy in the void. Awe replaced with joy. I still have trouble coming to terms with everything I saw. It was a particularly heavy trip plus sensory deprivation.


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: fushock]
    #7726193 - 12/06/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

remind me to never be "reborn"


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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: drugsaregoodmmk]
    #7726220 - 12/06/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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My poinion is that psychedelics cans show you something beautiful but only a sober you can change it. You have to be reborn in your own sober mind not on a drug.




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that is of course if you don't count being stoned "unsober"


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    #7726621 - 12/06/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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remind me to never be "reborn"




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Re: Feeling "reborn" on psychedelics [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #7726954 - 12/07/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

well im glad you are enjoying it whatever it is. the way you are explaining it i dont quite get it. presumabely your identity and stuff didnt change. you may have differences to your psyche. but i doubt you came out unrecognizeable to yourself and others after the trip. still dont know if what you are talking about is a visual thing or a mental thing. either way sounds like you like it so :thumbup:


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