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BrAiN
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Unbiased news sources
#7714276 - 12/04/07 08:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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everyone bitches and whines about either the liberal media (NY TIMES) or the conservative media (FOX), but are there any news sources out there that people can say with certainty that they feel are unbiased as possible?
For me? Even though I don't read it that often I'd say USA Today. WHenever I do read it, it just shows me the damn facts and not the facts that I want to see.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714310 - 12/04/07 08:26 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is just disappointing that the media still didn't exist in the form that it used to in this country, like say 150 years ago.
Picture a Southern dining house. A horse rides in. Once everyone is settled, they ask the man, "Any news from the North?"
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Tell you what, You go over there and write about this thing and I'll pay you money so I can print it.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714380 - 12/04/07 08:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Check several news sources and look at the facts presented. Ignore their conclusions and draw your own. How does that sound?
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: Arp]
#7714417 - 12/04/07 09:08 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It sounds complicated. I'm lazy.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: Arp]
#7714475 - 12/04/07 09:28 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Arp said: Check several news sources and look at the facts presented. Ignore their conclusions and draw your own. How does that sound?
It's more about the conclusions as it is which stories they pick to show and hide also.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714485 - 12/04/07 09:31 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Listen, you can go to Google News right now and type in absolutely any topic of your choosing.
Google will scour the web and return to you links to hundreds of different local stories on that topic, from sources that differ wildly in ideology and viewpoint.
There is absolutely nothing to prevent from reading several different viewpoints on any subject and coming up with a conclusion about actual events and their causes.
Nobody is going to tell you what is actually news, or what is real. The best any news source can do is tell you what it sees happening and why it thinks this thing is happening. The onus is on you to draw your own conclusions.
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That;s the problem... what if its the SUBJECT that's being hidden from you in the first place. You can't google something you DON'T know exists.
I'm not so much talking about the way news is presented, I'm talking about news sources hiding and displaying things based on their own interests. If you don't know a story is out there because some sources don't want American to know, how can you google it? There's more to media biased than just the WAY a story is presented.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714493 - 12/04/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Example?
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Larry Craig for example, the senator who was trying to get his groove on in the Minneapolis airport.
A couple of local news sources were reporting it, and the mainstream media sources knew about it, but kept it under wraps.
How am I supposed to know what happened without spending 6 hours every day looking through every local paper I can get my hands on?
The mainstream media knew about it. The conservtive sources probably wouldn't report it because it would be damaging to their party one way or another. The liberal media was probably hanging onto it after he was charged months prior because it wouldn't be as damaging to the repubs to report when he was charged as when they held back until he plead guilty and then opened the flood waters.
The conservative sources were trying to hide it altogether and the liberal sources were just waiting for the right time to do the most damage.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714515 - 12/04/07 09:41 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Theres only so much space in a national newspaper. Who defines what constitutes news?
Some of us would rather hear about Israel-Palestine peace or the Occupation of Iraq than whom gets their freak on with whom and where.
I mean, honestly, who gives a fuck?
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Quote:
Madtowntripper said: Theres only so much space in a national newspaper. Who defines what constitutes news?
Some of us would rather hear about Israel-Palestine peace or the Occupation of Iraq than whom gets their freak on with whom and where.
I mean, honestly, who gives a fuck?
Some people do. I'd put him getting charged more newsworthy than half the bullshit I see on CNN and FOX. Sure they only have so much space for news but half the time I look at either of the two sources I see stories that are just filler because there isn't enough going on in the world.
But like I said.. that's just ONE example. Who cares about the severity of it, I'm just saying that it HAPPENS.
Jeez..All I wanted to know is what some people consider unbiased news sources and you're trying to pick a damn fight with me. All I had is a simple question. Why does everyone on the board here have to be an asshole everytime the reply to even the most simple of posts where people just want others' opinions? Not everyone is trying to start a fuckin debate. It's obvious news sources hide and display stories based on their own personal agenda, I just want to know what sources some of you guys think are above all that.
All I wanted were some new websites and papers to consider reading.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714527 - 12/04/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Take it easy, nobody is trying to pick a fight with you.
Christ.
Calm down.
Like I said, there is no single unbiased source.
You are going to have to work for things a little bit.
It never was any different. At this point in time, people have easier access to more news sources than ever before. Thinking it was better at some point in the past is just not true.
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Sorry. You know how it is on this board though. You have to be defensive. Any time anyone posts something simple, everyone else picks a fight whether or not you're looking for one.
I agree with it not being any better in the past. In the past we didn't have anti-trust laws.
I usualyl bop between fox news, bbc, and cnn for my news... BBC is kinda nice because it covers a lot more foreign stuff.. but as far as local junx... I wish had had better pickings.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714574 - 12/04/07 09:59 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I like the BBC too.
I have their World Service on my radio all day in my office.
But honestly, Google News is a great reference as far as online news references go.
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I'm sure I have seen this before, but it was probably someone else that posted it.
No news is impartial, as the person that retells the story always puts their interpretation on it. Some are very overt, others try to remain faithful to all the facts.
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I agree that the BBC is pretty good. But in general, I don't bother much with the news except when someone posts a story here. If it seems rather biased and smells of bullshit, I'll check other news sources like CNN or BBC to see if there's something the OP isn't telling me.
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: Silversoul]
#7714953 - 12/04/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'd like to hear what source Zappa thinks is unbiased
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: BrAiN]
#7714962 - 12/04/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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BrAiN said: I'd like to hear what source Zappa thinks is unbiased
http://anncoulter.com/
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Re: Unbiased news sources [Re: Silversoul]
#7714971 - 12/04/07 11:36 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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hah
an coulter is hot. I'd love to boink her
and then toss her 5 bucks and kick her outta my bed afterwards
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