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Offlineopensaysme
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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7718830 - 12/05/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Well if he knew that answer he probably wouldn't have asked, ey?

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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7718851 - 12/05/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Richii said:
He doesn't say how long to boil it for.

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If you boil it for longer than 30min it should be ok.

I would go for an hour or more though.

You need to boil if for way way way way longer than that. I've heard upwards to six hours for a good extraction. Also why not buy the 18 inch and cut off four inchs and plant it. That way there you get this trip. Plus many more.

Come on man, it's basic extraction stuff. Hot water dissolves the alkaloids from the cactus. How long do YOU think that would take?



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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: opensaysme]
    #7718857 - 12/05/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It's kind of common sense.

Maybe I'm trying to teach someone how to fish...


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7718863 - 12/05/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe to you, my point is why not just help the person if you got something to say, rather then add an insult. Isn't this what the shroomery is for? Sharing of information?

Certainly isn't a who's got the biggest dick contest, not everyone here has spent time extracting chemicals or purveying entheogens,  ease up :thumbup:  :peace:

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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: opensaysme]
    #7718900 - 12/05/07 09:24 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

the first method the result was a green liquid, and the other technique on the video was a black syrup...

I'm guessing the one on the video is stronger.

I have yet to try Mesc, but i cant wait, now that i know how easy it is to extract.... Where can i get cactus? I think a headshop nearby has clippings maybe ill check them out soon.


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: RedRainDrop]
    #7719125 - 12/05/07 10:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Why don't you guys just do the HCL extraction?


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: PyroBurns]
    #7719886 - 12/05/07 02:22 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Had my 1st experience with p. torch recently...I decided to do tea instead of an a/b extraction and I think I will continue to do that for meaningful trips.

What a day that was...damn... I hope you have a good time.

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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: opensaysme]
    #7721546 - 12/05/07 07:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I was just saying that if someone's gonna start brewing things, he better get used to the 'trial and error' mentality. That includes making guesses about what you think is going on, and trying things based on those.

Wasn't trying to be a dick, man, and I didn't really mean to insult anyone.

Why don't you ease up...

About the video though, I've never gotten black syrup really, or I wouldn't describe it as that. I just boil it all down to a shot a dose and it's usually greenish. Thick and nasty... snotlike.


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7724666 - 12/06/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

would a 24 inch cutting be to much for a first timer with Mescaline? SWIM has used mushrooms about 20 times and LSD about a dozen along with 2 DOC trips, and 3 or 4 times with X.... is 24 inches too much?


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: apfrommsp]
    #7724755 - 12/06/07 02:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

naw man go with 30 :rocket:


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: apfrommsp]
    #7724790 - 12/06/07 02:33 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

It'll be a strong trip, but surely you can handle it. Physical discomfort also increases with dose.


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7725687 - 12/06/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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ReoSpeedwagon153 said:
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Richii said:
He doesn't say how long to boil it for.

:confused:




If you boil it for longer than 30min it should be ok.

I would go for an hour or more though.

Come on man, it's basic extraction stuff. Hot water dissolves the alkaloids from the cactus. How long do YOU think that would take?




Uh... I have no idea, thats why I asked. Hot water dissolves sugar in seconds, mescaline in hours, and THC never.

Why go with trial and error if you can just ask around and find good advice?

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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: Richii]
    #7726770 - 12/06/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I really wasn't trying to come off as a dick.

I just see learning to brew as developing a relationship with the plant. I screwed up a lot of different batches and tried a lot of different things to get me to the method I have now, and really it's just what works for me. You should find what works for you, I was just trying to encourage you to do that.

But yeah, pure mescaline dissolves in hot water within seconds too. The long boil is just to pull all of it out of the plant material.


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: ReoSpeedwagon153]
    #7727330 - 12/07/07 03:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Richii said,
"Why go with trial and error if you can just ask around and find good advice?"


True, but why ask when theirs a search button? Isn't trial and error part of life? I mean, getting to a stage with less error is our goal, but some error is always necessary to make you think a little bit. How else do we truly learn?

Also, I concur exactly with what ReoSpeedwagon said. We all have different methods. Develop your own relationship w/ your substances.


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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: akb112211]
    #7745513 - 12/11/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Alright alright I see what you guys are getting at... I'll get to know him in due time.

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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: Richii]
    #7745637 - 12/11/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Will be fun

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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: primal21]
    #7766258 - 12/16/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

First time was unsuccessful, I cut the skin off of 3 fair sized san pedro cacti, for myself and 1 friend. Averaged at 9 inches each, what seemed to be a medium dose form what I've read.

We put them in boiling water, boiled for 45 minutes, then strained and continued to boil till it was reduced to a drinkable size. The cactus went from a dark green to the color you see in the pictures.

About an hour after consumption I got a "funny" or goofy feeling, similar to the come up with mushrooms, but very mild. This lasted for an hour then slowly mellowed out. Nothing else.

Any ideas?





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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: Richii]
    #7766268 - 12/16/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)







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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: Coaster]
    #7766274 - 12/16/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

That pic is funny, it's like you're floating through the universe w/ your cactus

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Re: First time w/ Mescaline [Re: Robo]
    #7766283 - 12/16/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

u no how i roll


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