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 RonaldFuckingPaul
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 MDMA neurotoxicity reversed!! 
#7711916 - 12/03/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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MDMA neurotoxicity can be reversed. read this: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_article3.shtml
Yes this was done on rats but our DNA is very similar. This was with large amounts of injectable vitamin C however. Supposedly when you orally take vitamin C it doesn't work as well but it's much better than taking MDMA without supplements. It lowers your tolerance as well. BTW keep in mind this was pure MDMA, so most street pills don't come into play in this study obviously. Peace
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RonaldFuckingPaul
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I thought this thread would get more response. Don't you people understand, NO MORE BRAIN DAMAGE MUTHA FUCKAZ!!!!!!!!!!!
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F1234K
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Ive never felt my brain has been damaged from mdma use.
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RonaldFuckingPaul
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 Re: MDMA neurotoxicity reversed!! [Re: F1234K]
#7712055 - 12/03/07 05:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
F1234K said:
Ive never felt my brain has been damaged from mdma use.
Just cause you've never felt it doesn't mean it doesn't exist....
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RonaldFuckingPaul
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Damnit you hoes betta read this sh1t!!!!
edit: hey can a moderator move this to the pub?
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Edited by RonaldFuckingPaul (12/03/07 05:44 PM)
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RonaldFuckingPaul
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NO BRAIN DAMAGE FUKK YEAA
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F1234K
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Shut up 
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 slackophage
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Most people interested in MDMA have probably already seen this 6 yr old Erowid article. 
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RonaldFuckingPaul
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Re: MDMA neurotoxicity reversed!! [Re: slackophage]
#7712262 - 12/03/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
slackophage said:
Most people interested in MDMA have probably already seen this 6 yr old Erowid article.
This is for those who haven't beezy
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newlife
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Sounds pretty cool, never heard of it.
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JstHereFrTheCake
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Are you really that needy?
Just kidding... not really though.
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RonaldFuckingPaul
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I'm sorry just having a little fun lol
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badchad
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I don't think a lot of people would argue that minimal "brain damage" would be done by a single exposure to MDMA, which is what they gave the rats.
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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge. It is an indellible experience; it is forever known. I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.
Smith, P. Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.
...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
Osmond, H. Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436
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Serdal
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So.. what's an antioxidant?
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Cracka_X
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i don't care what any study says, ecstasy is one nasty fucking drug that uses your ass. What about the stress it puts on your heart and the rest of the cells in your body?
So I guess this is much more reassuring that you'll become a successful burn-out with a lesser degree of brain damage?
not trying to be pessimistic or anything I just don't think ecstasy use should be encouraged
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Merkin
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stfu n00b
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Land_Crab
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That the neurotoxicity of MDMA can be attributed at least in part to oxidative stress has been known for some time and automatically begs the question as to whether or not antioxidants can reduce Ecstasy's neurotoxic effects. I'm not knocking you for posting this study but the only scientifically valid conclusion that can be drawn from it is that very high doses of antioxidants injected into rats receiving doses (also by injection) of MDMA dramatically reduce or block neurotoxicity if it is measured as a function of the effects of oxidative stress on 'serotonin levels', as well as reducing the tolerance which occurs following a dose.
This is good news for party rats, but the study admittedly provides more questions than answers in terms of its usefulness for humans outside the lab. First up: Is it possible to consume enough antioxidant(s) to achieve similar benefits, given the fact that they never reach blood levels greater than 1/10th those following injection? The worst thing to do would be to jump to the conclusion that the answer is yes--which doesn't mean the answer is no, it just means we need more complete data. If anyone has direct links to studies on this topic please post them.
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ON BARZ ISEE STARS
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Re: MDMA neurotoxicity reversed!! [Re: F1234K]
#19848664 - 04/15/14 01:09 PM (10 years, 3 days ago) |
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how many time have u done it?
ive currently been on MOLLY for 4 days now and each day i take 1-3 doses of .1---.2(its the best shit ive ever had no need for more)..ive slept every other day,,,and the only side effects are thick phlegm and popped ears(ive read that that can happen)..i was curios if anyone has done the same but for longer of a period,like a week or more..if so how are u feeling,and what r the side effects anyone??
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KingKnowledge
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6 year bump…
But yeaaaaaaaah….MDMA does cause moderate serotonergic neurotoxicity. The price we pay.
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ON BARZ ISEE STARS
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i feel perfectly fine tho,just a lack of sleep obviously lol...or do the serotonin systems come later?
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