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Using Whole Rice
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Would using whole pieced long grain rice work? Or would it take 3 times as long to colonize the jars? Just cuz grinding it is a pain in the ass! Ive got no grinder/blender and cant grind it.


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Re: Using Whole Rice [Re: iiiSENiii]
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I don't know about three times as long, it might be faster (less surface area), but the mycelia wouldn't be getting lal the nutrition available. My advice would be to grind it up so they can get at more parts... You ever see powedered sawdust? That stuff, when mixed with the air is explosive... Same principle applies here, just grind up the rice.

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Re: Using Whole Rice [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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I know but I have no access to any grinder, or a blender [nope my poor friends dont have one, i know... wierd] so its really hard.

any suggestions on how to grind it without one?


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Re: Using Whole Rice [Re: iiiSENiii]
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Couldn't you just cook the rice.....

If so search for brown's brown rice tek or the 9er tek.
They will colonize MUCH faster than the PF jars IME.


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Re: Using Whole Rice [Re: TheShroomHermit]
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Almost anything is explosive if it's ground fine enough...just need to overcome a certain surface area : volume ratio. Neat huh?

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Re: Using Whole Rice [Re: iiiSENiii]
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badjessejames is right here's one way to do it
http://www.shroomery.org/9er/substrate.html

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Re: Using Whole Rice [Re: MycoThaikoh]
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I will use the brf tek but substitute whole rice in its place!

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Re: Using Whole Rice [Re: iiiSENiii]
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I find the best result between the whole rice and pre-bagged brf sits with grinding the rice just a little bit.  I like chunks.  I get faster colonization than with whole brown rice, and certainly faster than fine/flour cakes.  That said, you'll get great results with whole rice.  Don't overcook it (I cook for 25min instead of the reccomended 45), and rinse/strain well before filling jars.  Do NOT pack down.  Works super fast with a polyfill/tyvek lid.  I also believe that a little bit of verm helps speed of colonization, but I've done both with good results.  Painstaking, but you can always use a ziplock and a hammer to lightly pound the rice into pieces.  Just breaking them a bit really helps.  Doesn't have to be absolutely uniform in consistency, but aim for uniformity.  It'll take you like 30 min to do enough for en cakes if you don't try to do huge bags at once and make a mess.  Just fill the bag enough to lay it in a flat, even mass.  Tap LIGHTLY with hammer.  Best of luck.

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